Well I don't think its ' Dantes inferno ' . I read that it is ' everlasting ' . And that it was created not for man ,but the devil and fallen angels.
"The Soul That Sinneth, It SHALL Die."
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that is red herring no is saying that hell is real what is the debate is the context of How Jesus described the place Hell and His meaning of eternal torment.
Jesus did not die for all mankind, just for those that his Father gave him. and he said that he would lose none of them.
We all interpret the scriptures differently. The key to understanding them, is that they all have to harmonize with each other.
If people would only put any preconceived ideas out of their minds and then gather all scripture about the fiery judgement on the unsaved, it becomes clear what the lake of fire is and how long it lasts. Without scripture appearing to contradic itself.
We are born in sin, thus we are born separated from God, thus we need to receive BY FAITH the gift of Salvation, which makes us heirs with Jesus Christ, and thus we attain life eternal through Jesus Christ.
The scriptures say different, and I do not like Ellen G. White, but even a clock is right twice a day.
The bible clearly says that NOT ALL SHALL SLEEP.........So, is Paul telling us an UNTRUTH? Of course not. Where these souls rest I have no idea, but they are Resurrected from the Graves, say 1 Cor. 15. Lets us look at what Paul actually said:
1 Cor. 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven. 48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.(Sin Flesh can't inherit Heaven)
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible(with NO SIN FLESH, of course), and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible(sin flesh) must put on incorruption(Spirit man), and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
Verse 44 tells us those who died are RAISED UP AT THE LAST TRUMP, as Spirit men, it doesn't say they went straight to Heaven !! How are they raised up? Without CORRUPTIBLE sin flesh, that is what Paul is saying, they are RAISED UP as Spirit men. We go to Heaven, we are judged, then we receive our Glorious bodies.
Thus those living at the Rapture are CHANGED in the twinkling or FLASH of an eye, and what does that mean? Well, Paul tells us in verse 52, we must CHANGE from the CORRUPTION (Flesh body that has known sin) to the INCORRUPTIBLE (Spirit man that has known no sin, for we were made over in the LIKENESS of Christ Jesus). So, all it means is we SHED THIS SIN FLESH, in a moment, in the flash of an eye, we DIE and then our Spirit man goes to be with the Lord in Heaven where we marry the Lamb and receive our Glorious bodies. Wherever the holding place for Spirits is, that is not relevant per se, if we are dead, we are RAISED without Sin Flesh, the is all I now, which means we have been SLEEPING, just like Paul says, we shall not all SLEEP. Those who say we go straight to Heaven can't point it out in the bible, but I can point out where the Dead are RAISED from sleep at the last trump right here.
Man, your gumbo recipe got NOTHIN on mine! I done forgot more about makin a New Orleans style Gumbo Roux than you'll ever know, cher!
Bet you don't even have any Gumbo File' on the spice rack either. LOLBTW, Jesus didn't say the fire won't go out...He said it won't be "quenched" -- which means there ain't gonna be no fire angels runnin around with hoses pumping holy water on the flames...but the fire will eventually go out once there's nothing left to burn, 'cause Malachi says we're gonna tread down the ashes of the wicked and Jesus told the angel to tell John that "the former things are gonna pass away, which includes death, sorrow, crying, and pain and Moses said in Deuteronomy that God is going to set the whole thing on fire from the foundations of the mountains on up...so how can Jesus make a new heaven and new Earth if the fire keeps on burning?
I know, brother, but it's such a popular "proof" text that I threw it in there.
Peter says the punishment of the wicked -- which is when they are cast into hellfire -- is future, when he told us that God knows how to "reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished." See all that future language there? The wicked are not yet burning in hell, they are dead in the graves awaiting the Resurrection of the Damned. Hellfire commences at the end of time when the wicked surround New Jerusalem and "fire (comes) down out of heaven and (destroys) them all."
Nah, it's gonna burn out. People get tripped up over "forever" and it's meaning, but "aionios" simply means "duration, either endless or never ending".
"...fiery indignation which shall devour the adversaries" is not hell fire? God's fiery wrath is mentioned throughout the OT and NT. Even Isaiah 66 says He's coming with fire to burn up idolaters and swine eaters and Jeremiah says that fire is going to leave the slain of the Lord "from one end of the Earth even to the other end of the Earth."
Exactly, but I find the strategy of many is to run from verses they can't harmonize and reject alternative interpretations that do harmonize what they and their opposition says, so that cherished beliefs may be retained when they should be discarded.
If the bible really did say forever meaning never ending, how should it have said it ?
I know, the whole "sin is a condition, not a choice" debate, which conclusion is "since I had nothing to do with winding up in this situation, I have nothing to do with getting out of it."
I assure you that "sin is the transgression of the law" (1 John 3:4 KJV) so babies may be born "in sin" -- with the propensity to sin -- but until you knowingly break the law, you're not guilty of sin, right?
Even if it is argued that babies sin ignorantly, does not God "wink" (Acts 17:30 KJV) at that kind of sin?
Perhaps if the words had been properly translated? You might be surprised at how often
forever is used when that very thing came to an end... once God's purpose had been fulfilled.