Did the Church institute Dec 25th to replace Pagan Festivals with a Christian Theme?

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And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
Christ-mass=breaking bread on the day the Church commemorates Jesus' birth.
 
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pffft, He only instituted the Passover, nothing else.
Not really. His disciples instituted it. They decided to do it on the day of the week Jesus rose from the dead.
 
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Some churches take the Lord's supper every Sunday and take it very serious. Contemplating every word Jesus said about the supper. And we still celebrate Christmas. For the weeks before Christmas we study the prophecies that foretold of his coming, and his promise to return, and his revelation of himself to his disciples.
Them on Christmas we celebrate his birth, and his promise to return. We see his birth and the fulfillment of the prophecies of old as evidence of his promise to return. And it shows us more connected with the saints of old.
As they awaited his coming we await his return.
Y'all just don't appreciate what actually happened when God became flesh. You regard it as a common thing. Which is sad. Rather than the miraculous thing that it is. That God would condescend to be human and dwell among and suffer with, wretched humans in this valley of the shadow of death. This is the very definition of grace, grace lived out in out world of sin and death and pain and suffering. And you don see it as worthy to celebrate. That our savior came to us as one of us.
 

Jim62

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thats why, after i left the salvos, i did some research about it.
seems these celebrations are ingrained into the non-catholic churches, and few people have questioned why.
they just go along with it.
The catholic church also named pagan gods as saints to appease the pagans to get them in the church. Each saint has a specific purpose just like the pagan gods they represent.
 
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It's sad toe that some of these Christians are so patriated
into babylonian that they allow the babel to become their language. And so they will succumb to the double talk that they will allow babylon to destroy yet another Christian icon, just as they did the rainbow.
 
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It's sad toe that some of these Christians are so patriated
into babylonian that they allow the babel to become their language. And so they will succumb to the double talk that they will allow babylon to destroy yet another Christian icon, just as they did the rainbow.
the rainbow ?
What, make it a symbol of homosexuality ?
 
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Some churches take the Lord's supper every Sunday and take it very serious. Contemplating every word Jesus said about the supper. And we still celebrate Christmas. For the weeks before Christmas we study the prophecies that foretold of his coming, and his promise to return, and his revelation of himself to his disciples.
Them on Christmas we celebrate his birth, and his promise to return. We see his birth and the fulfillment of the prophecies of old as evidence of his promise to return. And it shows us more connected with the saints of old.
As they awaited his coming we await his return.
Y'all just don't appreciate what actually happened when God became flesh. You regard it as a common thing. Which is sad. Rather than the miraculous thing that it is. That God would condescend to be human and dwell among and suffer with, wretched humans in this valley of the shadow of death. This is the very definition of grace, grace lived out in out world of sin and death and pain and suffering. And you don see it as worthy to celebrate. That our savior came to us as one of us.
Amen! Could God stoop any lower?
 
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The catholic church also named pagan gods as saints to appease the pagans to get them in the church. Each saint has a specific purpose just like the pagan gods they represent.
Those purposes are the proper place they abandoned. Guess who takes their places of cosmic governance?
 
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may I ask, when the Christians let them have the rainbow ?
is my question illegal ?
The moment they started flying the rainbow and we didn't challenge them. The church didn't stake claims on the public arena of ideas.

Ps there are no "illegal" questions.
 

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the rainbow ?
What, make it a symbol of homosexuality ?
Oh brother! Re-defining common words in a common language is an old brain washing technique. Politicians and cult leaderships have been using them since before I (most likely we) were born.

Cases in point. Gay: Happy and care free. In a good mood having a good time, Fun.
Antonyms: Faggots/dykes, censored, child molesters...

Liberal: Generous, open minded, modern thinking...
Antonyms: Socialists, communists, baby killers.


Relationship: How things work together/working together. Compromise...
Antonyms: Sex, affair, conspiracy, Quid pro Quo...

I could go on but it's both boring and depressing.
 
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Oh brother! Re-defining common words in a common language is an old brain washing technique. Politicians and cult leaderships have been using them since before I (most likely we) were born.

Cases in point. Gay: Happy and care free. In a good mood having a good time, Fun.
Antonyms: Faggots/dykes, censored, child molesters...

Liberal: Generous, open minded, modern thinking...
Antonyms: Socialists, communists, baby killers.


Relationship: How things work together/working together. Compromise...
Antonyms: Sex, affair, conspiracy, Quid pro Quo...

I could go on but it's both boring and depressing.
me, redefining a word?
Hardly.
Homosexual was around before I was.
Of course gay means happy.
It can also be someone's name.
 

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you came out of left field we were talking about the word "Christmas" I guess you find it to be biblical? Santa is not about the birth of Christ we are in agreement. BUT remember the Birth of Jesus was celebrated before the creation of Santa Claus the gut in the red suit 1820's. 1863 is when the the more traditional guy came to be all well after hundreds of years of celebrating the Birth of Christ .

SO I ask you how did a pagan secular tradition false narrative some how come before the Birth of Christ and the Christ-mass was created out of Santa Claus which came after the church recognized and honored the Birth of Jesus? it didn't . the church is known to have "Christ-mass about the 9th century, however, that is still not the earliest account. The Gospel recorded Matthew chapter 2 and Luke chapter 2. This was so profound that even in the year 2020 the secular media called the Planet lining up on the 21st of December not " Santa's star" but it was widely reported around the world as the "Christmas Star". Even by CNN .
All these things are irrelevant. The question each of us must ask ourselves is whitch holidays are best, the holidays the Lord tells us of or the holidays man has decided on.
 

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All these things are irrelevant. The question each of us must ask ourselves is whitch holidays are best, the holidays the Lord tells us of or the holidays man has decided on.

You would say they are irrelevant, however, I will tell you the word Holiday is not in the Bible Did you know that? the word is secular because those who are not Christians did not like the term " Holy Day". To try and make yourself right you interject words you don't even know are not Biblical like " holiday". BUT a "Holy Day " meaning one set apart by God is very much in the word of God

IT WAS a HOLY Day when Jesus was Born. And I will prove it by the very word of God . Then you can say it is irrelevant while using secular terms to describe a day off from work.

InLuke 2:11

" For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. "

The Angels announced it,
Isiah 9:6 prophesied it and Micah. Ther words this day in Greek that the angels spoke of in Luke chapter 2:11 is not only of that day but also that night. The Angels proclaimed the birth of the Savior of the world, not a small thing had to happen. This day was set apart from other days because it was Holy unto the Lord. God and the angels treated it as such, but you know better.


" This day " was spoken by God Himself in Genesis and prophesied by the man of God 700 years before and fulfilled o this day and the angel even testified of IT. Yes, that day was indeed holy set apart. Now because we do not know of that day or when it was,

WE celebrate and honor the event that happened on that day which is praiseworthy and edifying and a historical event that actually happened, the Savior was born.