Did the Church institute Dec 25th to replace Pagan Festivals with a Christian Theme?

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You didn't name one, so, I guess Christians don't need public holidays.
If I did you would claim it to have a pagan origin. I don't get your reasoning about needing Holidays. I know you don't get the historical significance of the beginning and end of cultures
 
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only to you, it's a gimmick. Christ-mass is a word created TO BRING RELEVANCE to the birth of Christ which is in the word of God. I guess you have an issue with the word Trinity. is it a gimmick to celebrate your birthday? FYI, the acknowledgment of the birth of Christ is the is foundational truth and is the fulfillment of the very word of God which you have an issue with apparently. God said Foretold of HIS coming in Genesis, the prophet Isaiah, and Micah. But that is a gimmick? Church history and the word of God show differntly
so, what does "santa" have to do, with the birth of Christ ?
 
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are all YQUOTE="UCA4J, post: 4446527, member: 303164"]and you still haven't named one.[/QUOTE]
There are so many let's say Sunday. The Lord's Day.
 

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so, what does "santa" have to do, with the birth of Christ?
Known here is speaking about Santa, but St. Nicolas from Turkey is real. Santa Claus is secular FYI the Christain church did not create Santa Claus he morphed from St. Nicolas's real historical Christian. And don't change the subject to a fat man in the red suit, the word "Christmas" was the issue because it is not in the Bible you said. The birth of Christ is which is known in the Christian context as Christ-mass
 
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Known here is speaking about Santa, but St. Nicolas from Turkey is real. Santa Claus is secular FYI the Christain church did not create Santa Claus he morphed from St. Nicolas's real historical Christian. And don't change the subject to a fat man in the red suit, the word "Christmas" was the issue because it is not in the Bible you said. The birth of Christ is which is known in the Christian context as Christ-mass
there you go, the church didn't create santa, so why use it ?
 

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there you go, the church didn't create santa, so why use it ?
you brought up Santa guy there you go again forgetting what you said. No one here has mention Santa but you.
 
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you brought up Santa guy there you go again forgetting what you said. No one here has mention Santa but you.
you brought up Santa guy there you go again forgetting what you said. No one here has mention Santa but you.
cos I want to know what it has to do with the birth of Jesus. Is it a crime to ask ?
 

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cos I want to know what it has to do with the birth of Jesus. Is it a crime to ask ?
you came out of left field we were talking about the word "Christmas" I guess you find it to be biblical? Santa is not about the birth of Christ we are in agreement. BUT remember the Birth of Jesus was celebrated before the creation of Santa Claus the gut in the red suit 1820's. 1863 is when the the more traditional guy came to be all well after hundreds of years of celebrating the Birth of Christ .

SO I ask you how did a pagan secular tradition false narrative some how come before the Birth of Christ and the Christ-mass was created out of Santa Claus which came after the church recognized and honored the Birth of Jesus? it didn't . the church is known to have "Christ-mass about the 9th century, however, that is still not the earliest account. The Gospel recorded Matthew chapter 2 and Luke chapter 2. This was so profound that even in the year 2020 the secular media called the Planet lining up on the 21st of December not " Santa's star" but it was widely reported around the world as the "Christmas Star". Even by CNN .
 
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you came out of left field we were talking about the word "Christmas" I guess you find it to be biblical? Santa is not about the birth of Christ we are in agreement. BUT remember the Birth of Jesus was celebrated before the creation of Santa Claus the gut in the red suit 1820's. 1863 is when the the more traditional guy came to be all well after hundreds of years of celebrating the Birth of Christ .

SO I ask you how did a pagan secular tradition false narrative some how come before the Birth of Christ and the Christ-mass was created out of Santa Claus which came after the church recognized and honored the Birth of Jesus? it didn't . the church is known to have "Christ-mass about the 9th century, however, that is still not the earliest account. The Gospel recorded Matthew chapter 2 and Luke chapter 2. This was so profound that even in the year 2020 the secular media called the Planet lining up on the 21st of December not " Santa's star" but it was widely reported around the world as the "Christmas Star". Even by CNN .
left field ? wheres that ? when someone, says "the church" is that the catholic church, or each Christian church ?
 

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left field ? wheres that ? when someone, says "the church" is that the catholic church, or each Christian church ?
like it or not the earlier church which also did include those of the RCC which IF you remember those who were reformers left the RCC lol
 

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I think the poster above is sad for some reason.
I dont know why? Nobody ever celebrated their birthday maybe and he's taking it out on others who celebrate the birth of Christ.

It is a joyous occasion which is why the circumstances of His birth was recorded in the Bible. Mary even sang a song upon conception 9 months earlier about it.

I dont think its wrong to be excited about the birth of the saviour of Mankind.
 

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Jesus had a Barnyard party - there was no room at the inn.
DJ was angels and guests were shepherds, sheep and cattle, chickens, donkeys and ducks
Christmas lights were stars.
 

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early church was orthodox before there was even a roman catholic church, RCC came later.

Jesus birth is celebrated on January 7 according to gregorian calender.
rcc adhered to the Julian calender.

you can work out Jesus birth according to the Hebrew Calender with clues given in the Bible.
 
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Jesus had a Barnyard party - there was no room at the inn.
DJ was angels and guests were shepherds, sheep and cattle, chickens, donkeys and ducks
Christmas lights were stars.
So humble. He lay in a trough used to feed barnyard animals.