Is the law a blessing or a curse?

[eternally-gratefull]

The lord showed me that verse just for you and who oppose the truth in you.

I am not sure that was God,

we here that from a lot of people

usually comes from Pride

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Yeah your free to do whatever you want if thats how you want to interpret it yeah there is no law oh and look what happened at capital when people aren't lawkeepers lawlessness.

What happened in the capitol is people do not love as God commands, and also people fear what is going to happen ahead and wanted to stop it instead of trusting of God, and knowing all things work together for the good. That’s actually been going on for 4 years now as violence and destruction of property and murder has been going on,

so instead of loving others and thinking about them, as Jesus commanded, they acted out of hate and fear, and i believe many acted out their own sinful desire for violence, as I believe has happened in many of these things

the law did not stop them, because the law had no power to stop them

there were laws. They are their to prosecute enemy, sadly, like in Portland, and all the other places where this violence has raged,no one will probably be prosecuted, because the people in power actually want it

you have some things to learn my friend,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I agree with Jesus who said if you love me keep my commandments and he never said otherwise nor did his followers.

yep

Jesus contradicted paul

you might as well throw your Bible out or burnpit. It’s a contradictory mess With no power

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I think you need to go back and study the purpose of ritual ordinances which you are dead to if you truly have life in Christ and th

But teaching there is no law is teaching lawlessness. I have to go by what God says not man (Romans 3:31) Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. [establish is what it says not abolish]

once again this is not true

christians do not go out breaking commands because they imitate Christ, who served in love, and always put the needs of others above his own.

they fact you keep rejecting this notion of power given by God as the means to be command keepers and not command breakers is beyond all means of comprehension

if I love my wife, I will never commit adultry, if I just try to follow the command, I may be intimidated to not follow my;flesh and commit the sin of the flesh, but I will easily fall to sins of the mind, where I commit adultry in my heart, which according to the law is technically not sin, yet jesus said , the law said do not do this, but I tell you, if you do that, you have sinned,

even Jesus tried to show the ten commands were week, in that did they did not completely say what all sin was.

but in your pride, which yu have shown wince you arrived here, youare unable to hear even jesus

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Would be much easier just to say, "I'm not going to answer that question."

Sadly that’s typical when they are hardened. They beat around the bush so to speak and go in circles acting like they answer it when they do not,

aski;g them a yes or no question is frowned a punk they will refuse

 

[Dino246]

I think you need to go back and study the purpose of ritual ordinances which you are dead to if you truly have life in Christ and th

But teaching there is no law is teaching lawlessness. I have to go by what God says not man (Romans 3:31) Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. [establish is what it says not abolish]

Don't invent windmills for tilting; quote someone who advocates that.

 

[tribesman]

I am not sure that was God,

we here that from a lot of people

usually comes from Pride

Yeah, me thinks that too. It boggles me how so many professing christians are stuck with such a shallow sin concept. It's like they can't understand the heart.

 

[Blik]

Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

So we being dead to the law frees us from the law as many scriptures affirm. The old law is dead, we are then in response dead to that law and free to re-marry a new husband and law...the law of Christ no longer bound to the old law.

What do you think this "old law" is that we are not bound to? The ten commandments teach how to love, are you against the love that is in those commandments?

Gal_2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

Rom_6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

 

[Blik]

Don't invent windmills for tilting; quote someone who advocates that.

One person believes that the feasts are suggested by the Lord as a good celebration, another believes that they are only an obligation that we are exempt from and should not be celebrated. Should one judge the other as non
Christian based on these separate beliefs?

 

[Dino246]

One person believes that the feasts are suggested by the Lord as a good celebration, another believes that they are only an obligation that we are exempt from and should not be celebrated. Should one judge the other as non
Christian based on these separate beliefs?

The person who things that the feasts are "suggested" by the Lord doesn't understand the nature of the old covenant.

The person who believes "they are only an obligation that we are exempt from and should not be celebrated" is likely being misquoted (shocker!).

The person who judges another as non-Christian over this matter is going too far.

 

[echoChrist]

What happened in the capitol is people do not love as God commands, and also people fear what is going to happen ahead and wanted to stop it instead of trusting of God, and knowing all things work together for the good. That’s actually been going on for 4 years now as violence and destruction of property and murder has been going on,

so instead of loving others and thinking about them, as Jesus commanded, they acted out of hate and fear, and i believe many acted out their own sinful desire for violence, as I believe has happened in many of these things

the law did not stop them, because the law had no power to stop them

there were laws. They are their to prosecute enemy, sadly, like in Portland, and all the other places where this violence has raged,no one will probably be prosecuted, because the people in power actually want it

you have some things to learn my friend,

(Romans 7:7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. [ That is why they acted the way they did and again where do you come up with this one command of love yes every command and precept God gives us is a act of love. Just think if we opened the Holy scripture and it had one verse just love one another with no other instruction to follow everyone would be like what do we do now and they would probably say oh I guess we just hug and kiss each other.]

 

[echoChrist]

yep

Jesus contradicted paul

you might as well throw your Bible out or burnpit. It’s a contradictory mess With no power

Its only contradictory when people misinterpret the Word.

 

[echoChrist]

once again this is not true

christians do not go out breaking commands because they imitate Christ, who served in love, and always put the needs of others above his own.

they fact you keep rejecting this notion of power given by God as the means to be command keepers and not command breakers is beyond all means of comprehension

if I love my wife, I will never commit adultry, if I just try to follow the command, I may be intimidated to not follow my;flesh and commit the sin of the flesh, but I will easily fall to sins of the mind, where I commit adultry in my heart, which according to the law is technically not sin, yet jesus said , the law said do not do this, but I tell you, if you do that, you have sinned,

even Jesus tried to show the ten commands were week, in that did they did not completely say what all sin was.

but in your pride, which yu have shown wince you arrived here, youare unable to hear even jesus

You shouldn't have to worry about breaking command if you truly walk in the Spirit. And I'm only repeating what Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments but you keep insisting there are none to keep.

 

[echoChrist]

Sadly that’s typical when they are hardened. They beat around the bush so to speak and go in circles acting like they answer it when they do not,

aski;g them a yes or no question is frowned a punk they will refuse

You still haven't told me where your heard Jesus said his Fathers one and only command to us is love and abolish everything else because it's not in scripture it's man fabricated doctrine here is what Jesus said (Matthew 5:18-19) 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, [notice he said after not before] one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, [ notice commandments plural not just law of love you imply wasn't that what the hippys in the 60s lived by] and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, [notice he said teach not abolish commandments and forget] the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. [And if you don't think you can be obedient to God's will then your denying the power of the indwelling Spirit and yes Love is the foundation everything is built upon.]

 

[echoChrist]

Jesus told you to keep the law where?

jesus told us to love, and in doing so, we will by practice keep the law

yes, when people tell us to return to phariseeism,, we will appose them. That’s what Paul and Jesus did, and if I remember, they both told us to follow them.

Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments plural.

 

[Dino246]

Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments plural.

To whom was He speaking, and in what time period? What was the religious culture of that location in time and space?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

(Romans 7:7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. [ That is why they acted the way they did and again where do you come up with this one command of love yes every command and precept God gives us is a act of love. Just think if we opened the Holy scripture and it had one verse just love one another with no other instruction to follow everyone would be like what do we do now and they would probably say oh I guess we just hug and kiss each other.]

mark 12: 29 Jesus answered him, “The [k]first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lordour God, the Lord is one. 30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ [l]This is the first commandment.31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

Matt 22:
36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”
37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lordyour God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

you sir have some studying do

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Its only contradictory when people misinterpret the Word.

Like you?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You shouldn't have to worry about breaking command if you truly walk in the Spirit. And I'm only repeating what Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments but you keep insisting there are none to keep.

Jesus told you how to keep his commands.
but you love to talk about keeping commands, not how to do it

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You still haven't told me where your heard Jesus said his Fathers one and only command to us is love and abolish everything else because it's not in scripture it's man fabricated doctrine here is what Jesus said (Matthew 5:18-19) 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, [notice he said after not before] one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, [ notice commandments plural not just law of love you imply wasn't that what the hippys in the 60s lived by] and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, [notice he said teach not abolish commandments and forget] the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. [And if you don't think you can be obedient to God's will then your denying the power of the indwelling Spirit and yes Love is the foundation everything is built upon.]

I actually have shown you numerous times, and it was two commands, so you have a serious issue with comprehension