Some things about the law that need explaining.
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A schoolmaster 
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified
by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. Galatians 3:24-25
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Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified
by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. Galatians 3:24-25
That would make a good panel
The schoolmaster were the commandments God gave to Israelites to help them understand and obey the true law. We are given these helps and this understanding through the Holy Spirit, now.
I quoted Scripture; if you disagree with what it said, your problem is not with me
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ROMANS 7:14.
For we know that the Law is Spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
EX. 20:1.
And God SPOKE all these Words...."10 Commandments".
ISA. 2:3.
And many people shall go and say, Come you, and let us go up to the mountain of The LORD,
to The House of The God of Jacob; and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths:
for out of Zion shall go forth ((The Law, and The Word)) of The LORD from Jerusalem. 'parallelism' -
MATT. 5:17.
Think not that I am come to destroy the Law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18.
For verily I say unto you, 'Till heaven and earth 'pass', one jot or one tittle shall in 'no wise pass' from the Law,
till all be fulfilled.
19.
Whosoever therefore shall 'break' one of these 'least' Commandments, and shall teach men so,
he shall be called the 'least' in the Kingdom of Heaven: but whosoever shall do and 'teach' them,
the same shall be called 'great' in the Kingdom of Heaven. (another parallelism from Isaiah, above.)
some may not have an opinion on these things, but for hub and myself, we will with all of our hearts
desire to fulfill the Commandment, 'If you Love ME, keep My Commandments'...
For we know that the Law is Spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
EX. 20:1.
And God SPOKE all these Words...."10 Commandments".
ISA. 2:3.
And many people shall go and say, Come you, and let us go up to the mountain of The LORD,
to The House of The God of Jacob; and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths:
for out of Zion shall go forth ((The Law, and The Word)) of The LORD from Jerusalem. 'parallelism' -
MATT. 5:17.
Think not that I am come to destroy the Law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18.
For verily I say unto you, 'Till heaven and earth 'pass', one jot or one tittle shall in 'no wise pass' from the Law,
till all be fulfilled.
19.
Whosoever therefore shall 'break' one of these 'least' Commandments, and shall teach men so,
he shall be called the 'least' in the Kingdom of Heaven: but whosoever shall do and 'teach' them,
the same shall be called 'great' in the Kingdom of Heaven. (another parallelism from Isaiah, above.)
some may not have an opinion on these things, but for hub and myself, we will with all of our hearts
desire to fulfill the Commandment, 'If you Love ME, keep My Commandments'...
Blik,
do not your 'ears' hear - what your 'mouth' is speaking?
as it written;
GAL. 3:8.
And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through Faith,
preached before 'the gospel unto Abraham', saying, (In YOU shall ALL nations be blessed).
MATT. 24:14.
And this gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations;
and THEN shall the 'end come'.
do not your 'ears' hear - what your 'mouth' is speaking?
as it written;
GAL. 3:8.
And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through Faith,
preached before 'the gospel unto Abraham', saying, (In YOU shall ALL nations be blessed).
MATT. 24:14.
And this gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations;
and THEN shall the 'end come'.
Your facts are totally off. The first covenant was not given to us in the first place.
Exodus 24
And he said unto Moses, Come up unto the Lord, thou, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel; and worship ye afar off.
2 And Moses alone shall come near the Lord: but they shall not come nigh; neither shall the people go up with him.
3 And Moses came and told the people all the words of the Lord, and all the judgments: and all the people answered with one voice, and said, All the words which the Lord hath said will we do.
4 And Moses wrote all the words of the Lord, and rose up early in the morning, and builded an altar under the hill, and twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes of Israel.
5 And he sent young men of the children of Israel, which offered burnt offerings, and sacrificed peace offerings of oxen unto the Lord.
6 And Moses took half of the blood, and put it in basons; and half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar.
7 And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the Lord hath said will we do, and be obedient.
8 And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord hath made with you concerning all these words.
Exodus 24
And he said unto Moses, Come up unto the Lord, thou, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel; and worship ye afar off.
2 And Moses alone shall come near the Lord: but they shall not come nigh; neither shall the people go up with him.
3 And Moses came and told the people all the words of the Lord, and all the judgments: and all the people answered with one voice, and said, All the words which the Lord hath said will we do.
4 And Moses wrote all the words of the Lord, and rose up early in the morning, and builded an altar under the hill, and twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes of Israel.
5 And he sent young men of the children of Israel, which offered burnt offerings, and sacrificed peace offerings of oxen unto the Lord.
6 And Moses took half of the blood, and put it in basons; and half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar.
7 And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the Lord hath said will we do, and be obedient.
8 And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord hath made with you concerning all these words.
Are the laws of nature only a way of teaching us great truths, or are they great truths?
Are the laws governing the kingdom of God ways of teaching, or are they great truths? They are great truths, not a guide to the truth.
Is the law governing our diet, and fleshly circumcision great truths, no they are not. They are like a schoolmaster guiding a child to the great truths. They are obsolete, we have the Holy Spirit as our guide.
Are the laws governing the kingdom of God ways of teaching, or are they great truths? They are great truths, not a guide to the truth.
Is the law governing our diet, and fleshly circumcision great truths, no they are not. They are like a schoolmaster guiding a child to the great truths. They are obsolete, we have the Holy Spirit as our guide.
Also, the new covenant was given to Israel, not to gentiles. According to you, then, we do not have the new covenant. Christ said He came for the Jews, not the gentiles. Do you, a gentile, accept Christ as YOUR savior?
Jerimiah 31: 31 The days are surely coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah.
Jerimiah 31: 31 The days are surely coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah.
Precisely, the old covenant was made with Israel.
Thus, it makes perfect sense that the new covenant will also be made with them in the future, after Christ returns for them.
The nation will need to acknowledge Christ then, just as they acknowledged God in time past in Exodus 24, before the new covenant can be made with them.
For us in the Body of Christ, we are neither the House of Israel nor the House of Judah, as you quoted Jeremiah 31:31 and Hebrews 8:8.
We are saved, not thru the new covenant, but thru Jesus's death burial and resurrection for our sins (1 Cor 15:1-4)
Thus, it makes perfect sense that the new covenant will also be made with them in the future, after Christ returns for them.
The nation will need to acknowledge Christ then, just as they acknowledged God in time past in Exodus 24, before the new covenant can be made with them.
For us in the Body of Christ, we are neither the House of Israel nor the House of Judah, as you quoted Jeremiah 31:31 and Hebrews 8:8.
We are saved, not thru the new covenant, but thru Jesus's death burial and resurrection for our sins (1 Cor 15:1-4)
