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A thesaurus shows related words, not those of identical meaning. Here are the Cambridge Dictionary definitions (with emphasis added):
Accent (noun): the way in which people in a particular area, country, or social group pronounce words
Dialect (noun): a form of a language that people speak in a particular part of a country, containing some different words and grammar, etc.
The concepts are related but distinct. I could not find a single English translation that uses "accent" for dialektos in Acts 2:6 or 2:8. Clearly they aren't as close synonyms as you want to believe.
Accent (noun): the way in which people in a particular area, country, or social group pronounce words
Dialect (noun): a form of a language that people speak in a particular part of a country, containing some different words and grammar, etc.
The concepts are related but distinct. I could not find a single English translation that uses "accent" for dialektos in Acts 2:6 or 2:8. Clearly they aren't as close synonyms as you want to believe.
You have no argument.
The Holy Spirit did not empower the hearers to hear in their dialects, and He did not change the sound waves mid-air. He empowered the disciples' speech, as the text states.
In Acts 10, Cornelius did not speak words that Peter and his companions heard in their dialects. He spoke in tongues when the Holy Spirit came on him.
In Acts 19, Paul did not hear the new converts speak in his dialect. They spoke in tongues when the Holy Spirit came on them.
The Holy Spirit did not empower the hearers to hear in their dialects, and He did not change the sound waves mid-air. He empowered the disciples' speech, as the text states.
In Acts 10, Cornelius did not speak words that Peter and his companions heard in their dialects. He spoke in tongues when the Holy Spirit came on him.
In Acts 19, Paul did not hear the new converts speak in his dialect. They spoke in tongues when the Holy Spirit came on them.
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This remains wrong. When someone spoke, the people in the crowd each heard it not only in their native language, but in the dialect of that language from the place where they were born. The speaker spoke only one language but it being cloven, it spread out in all different languages. Each person speaking there did not speak all the languages of the people in the crowd. It would be like speaking Hebrew, but the Holy Spirit made it cloven so it could go out to all people in any language needed.
that is not what the biblical account says in Acts 2. Why is it those who can't explain a supernatural event recorded in the Bible try to interject false narrative not supported by the Word of God, and is opinionated?
NOW YOU ARE trying to make the Holy Spirit do something the Acts 2 account doesn't say. ridicules
NOW YOU ARE trying to make the Holy Spirit do something the Acts 2 account doesn't say. ridicules
The Scripture plainly says something different than what you claim.
Acts 2:1-3 (KJV) 1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
The "cloven tongues" were, as the text states, "like as fire"! They were visible because they appeared, as the text states.
Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
They... PLURAL... began to speak with other tongues... PLURAL, as the text states. More than one person was speaking; it is reasonable to conclude that ALL of them (120 people) spoke with other tongues. Nobody claimed that one person spoke all 14+ dialects. This multitude of languages was spoken by a multitude of people by the power of the Holy Spirit. That's that only miracle recorded in this section.
Members of the assembled crowd heard them speaking in their (the crowd members') dialects not because there was one person speaking and the Holy Spirit changed the sound into several dialects, but because, as the text states, the Holy Spirit had enabled the disciples to speak in other tongues.
AFTER this phenomenon got the attention of the people, Peter (one person) spoke. The text says nothing of Peter delivering his speech "in tongues" and nothing more is said of "hearing in other dialects" (or languages, tongues, or accents).
Honestly, I don't understand why the plain text is opaque to your understanding. Have you believed on Jesus Christ for salvation from your sins?
Acts 2:1-3 (KJV) 1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
The "cloven tongues" were, as the text states, "like as fire"! They were visible because they appeared, as the text states.
Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
They... PLURAL... began to speak with other tongues... PLURAL, as the text states. More than one person was speaking; it is reasonable to conclude that ALL of them (120 people) spoke with other tongues. Nobody claimed that one person spoke all 14+ dialects. This multitude of languages was spoken by a multitude of people by the power of the Holy Spirit. That's that only miracle recorded in this section.
Members of the assembled crowd heard them speaking in their (the crowd members') dialects not because there was one person speaking and the Holy Spirit changed the sound into several dialects, but because, as the text states, the Holy Spirit had enabled the disciples to speak in other tongues.
AFTER this phenomenon got the attention of the people, Peter (one person) spoke. The text says nothing of Peter delivering his speech "in tongues" and nothing more is said of "hearing in other dialects" (or languages, tongues, or accents).
Honestly, I don't understand why the plain text is opaque to your understanding. Have you believed on Jesus Christ for salvation from your sins?
This is what so funny let's just say for the sake of argument the gifts did cease. No masa. The Biblical account doesn't fit this false narrative of causing one to hear differently than what was being spoken by those who did not learn that language. The context is not there. IF the argument of the gifts was not for today was removed they would not even bring up such foolish interjection. Trying to nail jello to the wall lol.
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read the whole chapter = 1 Cor 14.
1Co 14:21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.
1Co 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
1Co 14:23 If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?
How the Holy Spirit worked this miracle in Acts i don't understand but i know that the people all heard the message of truth in their own language and it was a sign for new believers to join the faith.
1Co 14:21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.
1Co 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
1Co 14:23 If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?
How the Holy Spirit worked this miracle in Acts i don't understand but i know that the people all heard the message of truth in their own language and it was a sign for new believers to join the faith.
the teaching of 1cor 14 you kind of fall a little short there was more. it did not stop with " say that ya are mad.
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But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an uninformed person comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all. 25 And thus the secrets of his heart are revealed; and so, falling down on his face, he will worship God and report that God is truly among you.
How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three, each in turn, and let one interpret. 28 But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God. 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge.
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But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an uninformed person comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all. 25 And thus the secrets of his heart are revealed; and so, falling down on his face, he will worship God and report that God is truly among you.
How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three, each in turn, and let one interpret. 28 But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God. 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge.
Ok, I'm just going to say it... that is completely fake. Pretty hard for me to watch those clips. They are making a mockery out of it. The people that are knowingly faking the gifts for whatever reason money, fame, etc. and teaching other to do so could very well be, in my opinion, blaspheming against the Holy Spirit.
However, we can't just rule out the Gifts of the Spirit because there are people out there faking.
However, we can't just rule out the Gifts of the Spirit because there are people out there faking.
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You are portraying a false description of tongues as it is taught in the Bible. Paul, whom you like to refer to, states this:
I won't offer insight into the entire Chapter 14 of I Corinthians, but v. 4 describes tongues in which the user is not interpreting but is actually edifying themself.
4He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. Reading on, Paul says that the one who interprets is a 'great' as the one who prophesies.
5I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification.
Obviously the above is describing something other than what occurred in Acts. I have no expectations you will see this whatsoever.
I won't offer insight into the entire Chapter 14 of I Corinthians, but v. 4 describes tongues in which the user is not interpreting but is actually edifying themself.
4He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. Reading on, Paul says that the one who interprets is a 'great' as the one who prophesies.
5I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification.
Obviously the above is describing something other than what occurred in Acts. I have no expectations you will see this whatsoever.
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Well that is not what Paul teaches.
13Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. 14For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding. I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding. 16Otherwise, if you bless with the spirit, how will he who occupies the place of the uninformed say “Amen” at your giving of thanks, since he does not understand what you say? 17For you indeed give thanks well, but the other is not edified.
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