Native American to be Secretary of Interior

[oldethennew]

each and every one of us has or have had relatives who immigrated here and had/have been abused
in one form or another, that is how OUR 'America' came to be through them...
what has transformed from it's beginnings until now is embarrassing, to say the least...

 

[Desdichado]

Yep. And many of these groups ended up marrying into one-another after a generation or two. At least among the lower and middle classes. This helped bring unity along with a common recent struggle (WWII) and a government that promoted and enforced a unity of purpose.

each and every one of us has or have had relatives who immigrated here and had/have been abused
in one form or another, that is how OUR 'America' came to be through them...
what has transformed from it's beginnings until now is embarrassing, to say the least...

 

[Desdichado]

Now I think this was a little too much unity that papered over regional and religious diversity and ultimately curtailed the freedoms Americans have historically recognized. It also led to the establishment of two legal systems. But the assimilation strategy of turn-of-the-century Progressives such as Eleanor Roosevelt was successful and preferable to the open-border diversity cult we see today.

Giving the devil his due here, I suppose.

 

[oldethennew]

oh yes, we agree! but we can also see where and when satan made his latest/greatest big move,
that we all bought into and acted-out, instead of obeying our Creator and His 'rules' -
and thus we now reap what we followed/bought, as sheep to the slaughter -
all prophesied from ages past...

 

[Desdichado]

There have been many big moves I may agree with you about. Which one do we have in mind?

Some, I will not take responsibility for having fought against these developments tooth and nail.

oh yes, we agree! but we can also see where and when satan made his latest/greatest big move,
that we all bought into and acted-out, instead of obeying our Creator and His 'rules' -
and thus we now reap what we followed/bought, as sheep to the slaughter -
all prophesied from ages past...

 

[theLastEndWatcher]

Now I think this was a little too much unity that papered over regional and religious diversity and ultimately curtailed the freedoms Americans have historically recognized. It also led to the establishment of two legal systems. But the assimilation strategy of turn-of-the-century Progressives such as Eleanor Roosevelt was successful and preferable to the open-border diversity cult we see today.

Giving the devil his due here, I suppose.

The irony is "All diversity and inclusiveness matters" unless you're a Christian who holds to the teachings of the Bible.
I do not believe those who preach diversity and inclusion actually understand what it means.

 

[Desdichado]

Christians on the Right are indeed the primary target. It's in Leftist literature since before there was a discernable "Left" and "Right."

The irony is "All diversity and inclusiveness matters" unless you're a Christian who holds to the teachings of the Bible.
I do not believe those who preach diversity and inclusion actually understand what it means.

 

[oldethennew]

There have been many big moves I may agree with you about. Which one do we have in mind?

Some, I will not take responsibility for having fought against these developments tooth and nail.

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draw your own conclusion from your own understanding/discernment, this wasn't a challenge, just
a wake-up-warning for those who sleep inside of their own heads/realities...
TY for your response, we appreciate your posts...

 

[mustaphadrink]

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/17/9372...ve-american-rep-deb-haaland-as-interior-secre

In a historic first, President-elect Joe Biden will nominate Rep. Deb Haaland to lead the Department of the Interior, his transition team announced Thursday evening.​

If confirmed by the Senate, Haaland, a member of the Laguna Pueblo in New Mexico, would be the country's first Native American Cabinet secretary. Fittingly, she'd do so as head of the agency responsible for not only managing the nation's public lands but also honoring its treaties with the Indigenous people from whom those lands were taken.​

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the indigenous American people have had any number of treaties broken by the US & suffered horrendous harm & injustice historically during colonial & US expansion, and afterward. they continue to be among the poorest and least-heard voices in the country -- i am really glad to hear this news yesterday, and thank God that perhaps they will receive some form of justice and mercy that they have not in the past, with a voice from their own people leading the department that so significantly affects their interaction & standing with the US government

I don't care what the nationality or sex of any cabinet member is. What I want to know are they the best person who can do the job. If they are so be it. If they are not, they should not be appointed.

 

[infinitekhanol]

["crossnote, post: 4445078, member: 145370"]I don't know of Haaland, but Biden is not the President elect. That officially takes place in the House of Reps on Jan 6th, if nothing is done about the voting fraud.[] And here, the truth is far far away from you, it seems

 

[infinitekhanol]

I think there is plenty of proof, e.g. affidavits of eyewitnesses. Problem is, is getting SCOTUS to rule on the evidence. Then I'd be happy regardless of the outcome.

Have you considered that the so called affidavits of eyewitnesses swelled up after the Texas governor offered $1m to anyone that comes up with evidence of fraud? What do you expect with $1m at stake? Unscrupulous people will definitely want to join in. And, that is what you have,-- plenty of affidavits!

The Attorney general appointed by the president has distanced himself from the conspiracy of fraud and yet, you people will not allow this case to rest. What are you people afraid of? -- of losing your esteemed position as Christian advisers to the president? What you are doing here is just confirming Paul"s saying in Romans 2:24 that the name of God is blasphemed among gentiles through you as it is written. For the love of God, you people should align with the truth and join hands with the President elect to move America forward.

It is heartwarming that there are still honest Republicans that can stand up for the truth irrespective of divergent political ideologies and perceived personal gains. I thank God for the lives of these people.

 

[crossnote]

What are you people afraid of? -

What you are doing here is just confirming Paul"s saying in Romans 2:24

Such comments/questions reveal a conspiracy bent of your own. You don't know me from boo, and your post smells that of a troll and is not worthy of a serious response...so I won't.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/17/9372...ve-american-rep-deb-haaland-as-interior-secre

In a historic first, President-elect Joe Biden will nominate Rep. Deb Haaland to lead the Department of the Interior, his transition team announced Thursday evening.​

If confirmed by the Senate, Haaland, a member of the Laguna Pueblo in New Mexico, would be the country's first Native American Cabinet secretary. Fittingly, she'd do so as head of the agency responsible for not only managing the nation's public lands but also honoring its treaties with the Indigenous people from whom those lands were taken.​

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the indigenous American people have had any number of treaties broken by the US & suffered horrendous harm & injustice historically during colonial & US expansion, and afterward. they continue to be among the poorest and least-heard voices in the country -- i am really glad to hear this news yesterday, and thank God that perhaps they will receive some form of justice and mercy that they have not in the past, with a voice from their own people leading the department that so significantly affects their interaction & standing with the US government

Treaties were broken on both sides. It wasn't just the European or American government. And Indians sold out their own people too. Hardly one sided. They are among the poor due to government and their policies to try and help. It was under Democratic authority to enact the Trail of Tears that forced the many eastern tribes off their land. If people want to help them then simply give them the same opportunity as everyone else. The hand outs and treaties have only kept them dependent on Big Brother. They must assimilate and open their opportunities to the Nation not just tribal lands.

 

[posthuman]

The largest mass shooting in United States history happened 130 years ago today, December 29, 1890. The U.S. Cavalry shot and killed 300+ American Indians on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, South Dakota, mostly women and children. 20 U.S. Soldiers were awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor (which is the United States of America's highest and most prestigious personal military decoration that may be awarded to recognize U.S. military service members who distinguished themselves by acts of valor).​

This facts, along with many others, are not taught to in our American public schools. So,​

most Americans are deprived of the opportunity to learn from the horrible and sad parts of our history. Instead division remains because of our country’s secrets. However the truth will set us free and promote understanding, growth and healing for us who have faced a difficult past.​

Today is a day of mourning for us Lakota/Dakota/Nakota & all First Nations. Each year, Horse riders ride from Standing Rock and Cheyenne River Sioux Tribes to the Pine Ridge Reservation to honor and recognize our ancestors who lost their lives at Wounded Knee. Wopila Tanka Big Thank You!​

By 1890, pretty much all 100 million American Indians were either killed or sent to live on a reservation, by law. The main source of food (buffalo) was decimated from 30-60 million to down to less than 1,000 by 1890. So our ancestors danced and prayed in desperation, which many call the ghost dance. The U.S. Calvary didn’t understand and deemed the ghost dance a threat. This led to the U.S. Calvary killing our ancestors at Wounded Knee.​

*Today, December 29, we mourn and carry on the legacy of our ancestors*​

Please share and teach others, so we do not repeat our past. Instead, we must teach each other, especially our youth, so we can promote better understanding and respect for each other. It’s time to dismantle racist misunderstandings, and promote education and unity.​

Hecetuwedo, Mitakuye Oyasin​

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[posthuman]

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The largest mass shooting in United States history happened 130 years ago today, December 29, 1890. The U.S. Cavalry shot and killed 300+ American Indians on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, South Dakota, mostly women and children. 20 U.S. Soldiers were awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor (which is the United States of America's highest and most prestigious personal military decoration that may be awarded to recognize U.S. military service members who distinguished themselves by acts of valor).​

This facts, along with many others, are not taught to in our American public schools. So,​

most Americans are deprived of the opportunity to learn from the horrible and sad parts of our history. Instead division remains because of our country’s secrets. However the truth will set us free and promote understanding, growth and healing for us who have faced a difficult past.​

Today is a day of mourning for us Lakota/Dakota/Nakota & all First Nations. Each year, Horse riders ride from Standing Rock and Cheyenne River Sioux Tribes to the Pine Ridge Reservation to honor and recognize our ancestors who lost their lives at Wounded Knee. Wopila Tanka Big Thank You!​

By 1890, pretty much all 100 million American Indians were either killed or sent to live on a reservation, by law. The main source of food (buffalo) was decimated from 30-60 million to down to less than 1,000 by 1890. So our ancestors danced and prayed in desperation, which many call the ghost dance. The U.S. Calvary didn’t understand and deemed the ghost dance a threat. This led to the U.S. Calvary killing our ancestors at Wounded Knee.​

*Today, December 29, we mourn and carry on the legacy of our ancestors*​

Please share and teach others, so we do not repeat our past. Instead, we must teach each other, especially our youth, so we can promote better understanding and respect for each other. It’s time to dismantle racist misunderstandings, and promote education and unity.​

Hecetuwedo, Mitakuye Oyasin​

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reposted from Supaman, a native American Christian musician.
don't act like it never happened; learn from it, and teach what you learn.

 

[oldethennew]

this country of ours came about because of 'injustice', rigorous, demonic rule!
it is the 'human-condition', man has 'fallen, and he/us is evil to the core'!!!
only by the Grace of Christ Jesus, do we have a way of redemption from our
'inherited-evil-behaviour'...
Praise God and Thanks be to our Holy Saviour, Jesus Christ, our Deliverer!!!

 

[PennEd]

By 1890, pretty much all 100 million American Indians were either killed or sent to live on a reservation, by law.

THIS “fact” is at least 80% wrong, why would anyone believe anything else in this letter?

From Wikipedia, but it doesn’t take a historian to know 100 million is a ridiculous number:

61] It is difficult to estimate the number of pre-Columbian Native Americans who were living in what is today the United States of America.[62] Estimates range from a low of 2.1 million to a high of 18 million (Dobyns 1983).[

 

[PennEd]

Hey post, you wanna get angry over injustice towards Indians, that is happening TODAY? I’m with you!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1343979562074595335

 

[1ofthem]

Once everybody gets paid back maybe all Americas inhabitants should depart and colonize mars or something.

I have comanche and Irish blood.

Maybe I can get things straight with the white man and the indians.

Give me Ireland with a teepee.
(The entire nation) and a teepee mansion.
That'll be good enough for now.

LOL...but I'm with you. I have Cherokee and Scotts Irish blood. So I'll take Scotland and Kentucky with a teepee and bow and arrow...

Seriously though, this reparation stuff is totally insane.

 

[PennEd]

LOL...but I'm with you. I have Cherokee and Scotts Irish blood. So I'll take Scotland and Kentucky with a teepee and bow and arrow...

Seriously though, this reparation stuff is totally insane.

True story. My dad told us we were partially American Indian. He didn’t know which tribe. Maybe Algonquin.

When I was a little kid, 7or 8, I cut my thigh on some rocks I was climbing on at the beach. When I saw how deep red the blood was, I actually thought that was where I was Indian!