If a Sabbath is forced, Will you keep Sunday holy?
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Is there any command in the bible about going to church on Sunday? Based on this verse provided, where exactly is the hypocrisy about those who chose to worship on the Sabbath?
Romana 14:5
One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
Romana 14:5
One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
We are not saved by works for or after salvation. From beginning "have been" saved through faith (Ephesians 2:8) to end "receiving the end of your faith--the salvation of your souls" (1 Peter 1:9) salvation is by grace through faith and is not by works. I have made no false accusations and I do not speak against works when put in their proper place. Saved by grace through faith, not works, created in Christ Jesus FOR good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. (Ephesians 2:8-10)
*We are saved FOR good works and NOT BY good works.*
If faith "is" to obey, then this means faith "is" obedience/works and in that case, salvation would be by works according to his logic. So no false accusation from me.
If faith "is" to obey ALL of God's commandments according to bud62, then how can Satan have far more faith then we do, since he does not obey all of God's commandments? The kind of faith that saves results in producing works, yet we are still saved through faith and not by works. (Ephesians 2:8,9) In James 2:19, we see that the demons believe "mental assent" that "there is one God," but they do not believe in/have faith in/trust in/reliance in Jesus Christ for salvation. In other words, they do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31) and are not saved. Their trust and reliance is in Satan, as demonstrated by their rebellion in heaven and continuous evil works.
Straight from the horses mouth - "kept God's commandments if they wanted to be saved." Salvation based on keeping God's commandments, which is salvation by works. Romans 4:2-6 negates that theory: For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it (faith, not works) was accounted to him for righteousness.” 4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt. 5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works.
bud62 fails to grasp that keeping God's commandments is works. He seems to have a problem identifying what works are and he also defines faith "as" obedience, which is works. What a mess! Believers "keep" (Greek word "tereo" - guard, observe, watch over) His commandments (1 John 2:3) which does not mean sinless, perfect obedience to the 10 commandments under the law and it also does not mean that we are saved based on the merits of perfectly obeying His commandments.
I previously quoted a statement that includes the 10 commandments as a part of the gospel and resulted in salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works from a former member of CC who happens to be SDA and bud62 agreed with that statement. So there have been no false accusations from me against my neighbor. It's obvious for believers to see that bud62 is teaching "works salvation" and he has been called out on it multiple times.
*We are saved FOR good works and NOT BY good works.*
If faith "is" to obey, then this means faith "is" obedience/works and in that case, salvation would be by works according to his logic. So no false accusation from me.
If faith "is" to obey ALL of God's commandments according to bud62, then how can Satan have far more faith then we do, since he does not obey all of God's commandments? The kind of faith that saves results in producing works, yet we are still saved through faith and not by works. (Ephesians 2:8,9) In James 2:19, we see that the demons believe "mental assent" that "there is one God," but they do not believe in/have faith in/trust in/reliance in Jesus Christ for salvation. In other words, they do not believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31) and are not saved. Their trust and reliance is in Satan, as demonstrated by their rebellion in heaven and continuous evil works.
Straight from the horses mouth - "kept God's commandments if they wanted to be saved." Salvation based on keeping God's commandments, which is salvation by works. Romans 4:2-6 negates that theory: For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it (faith, not works) was accounted to him for righteousness.” 4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt. 5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works.
bud62 fails to grasp that keeping God's commandments is works. He seems to have a problem identifying what works are and he also defines faith "as" obedience, which is works. What a mess! Believers "keep" (Greek word "tereo" - guard, observe, watch over) His commandments (1 John 2:3) which does not mean sinless, perfect obedience to the 10 commandments under the law and it also does not mean that we are saved based on the merits of perfectly obeying His commandments.
I previously quoted a statement that includes the 10 commandments as a part of the gospel and resulted in salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works from a former member of CC who happens to be SDA and bud62 agreed with that statement. So there have been no false accusations from me against my neighbor. It's obvious for believers to see that bud62 is teaching "works salvation" and he has been called out on it multiple times.
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If the sabbath day law was still in effect today, then according to Exodus 31:12-18; 35:1-3; and Numbers 15:32-36, anyone who profaned the sabbath was put to death and any person who does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from his people. Who is going to enforce that today? A lot has changed since then. (2 Corinthians 3:6-9; Colossians 2:16-17; Hebrews 8:13)
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You just fail to see that after someone saves US from falling off a cliff that is A mile straight down, and we go back and fall off that cliff the next day, don't mean that it won't hurt US the second time, when we fall off of it, THE same with sin, YESUAH cleans us and covers our sins, and after HE does we sin again, that blood dose not cover that new sin and it is out in the open, and not under the BLOOD, So we do HAFT to GO back and get the blood over that sin to, Just like they had to in the old testament, every time they sinned, the same with US, THAT IS THE REASON we have the SCHOOLMASTER, so we can go back and see HOW our GRATE HIGH PREIST COVERS our sins, THIS is what our SCHOOLMASTER IS FOR, And PRAISE GOD THAT YESUAH has showed me this. And THIS SCRIPTURE makes it that A child could understand that we haft to go back and get the NEW SINS COVERED
2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
That is NOT talking About the Sabbath that is in the commandments wrote with GOD'S finger.
That is talking About the sacrificial laws that was in the hand writings of Moses, As that SCRIPTURE that you got that from tells us, these are a different set of laws, that only lasted till JESUS went to the Cross and was nailed nto the Cross
COL 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
2:15 [And] having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]:
2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body [is] of Christ.
Galations 3:19 Wherefore then [serveth] the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; [and it was] ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
That is talking About the sacrificial laws that was in the hand writings of Moses, As that SCRIPTURE that you got that from tells us, these are a different set of laws, that only lasted till JESUS went to the Cross and was nailed nto the Cross
COL 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
2:15 [And] having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]:
2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body [is] of Christ.
Galations 3:19 Wherefore then [serveth] the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; [and it was] ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
What you fail to see is that Christ’s finished work of redemption is sufficient and complete to save believers. No supplements needed. (Romans 3:24-28)
In regards to 2 Peter 2:20, those who are born of God have received a new nature, a divine nature. They have been transformed from pigs and dogs into sheep. The change is more than merely cosmetic, as in 2 Peter 2:20. *These cleaned up on the outside dogs and pigs were never sheep.*
Compare 2 Peter 1:4 - "partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption - Strongs #5356 that is in the world through lust with 2 Peter 2:20 - with they escaped the pollutions - Strongs #3356 (different Greek word) of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, yet they are again entangled therein, and overcome.
*Notice that 2 Peter 2:20 did not mention them being "partakers of the divine nature."
Corruption (Strongs #5356) (to shrivel or wither, spoil , ruin , deprave, corrupt , defile, to destroy by means of corrupting, to spoil as does milk). Corruption - describes decomposition or rotting of an organism and the accompanying stench. The utter depravity of the fallen flesh and the resultant moral decomposition of the world opposed to God is driven by it sinful lusts or evil desires. Internal corruption.
Pollutions/Defilements (Strongs #3393) ("pollutions", "filthy things", "contaminations", "world's filth") describes the state of being tainted or stained by evil and refers to impurity, impure, tainted, defilement, foulness or pollution. Pollutions/Defilement refers to what is on the outside (2 Peter 2:20). But genuine believers have escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust (2 Peter 1:4).
Corruption is deeper than pollutions/defilements on the outside: it is decay on the inside.
Having the knowledge of Jesus Christ does not save a person if there is no heart submission to that knowledge. The latter end is worse than the beginning for these men because rejecting this knowledge will make them more accountable at the judgment.
In regards to 2 Peter 2:20, those who are born of God have received a new nature, a divine nature. They have been transformed from pigs and dogs into sheep. The change is more than merely cosmetic, as in 2 Peter 2:20. *These cleaned up on the outside dogs and pigs were never sheep.*
Compare 2 Peter 1:4 - "partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption - Strongs #5356 that is in the world through lust with 2 Peter 2:20 - with they escaped the pollutions - Strongs #3356 (different Greek word) of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, yet they are again entangled therein, and overcome.
*Notice that 2 Peter 2:20 did not mention them being "partakers of the divine nature."
Corruption (Strongs #5356) (to shrivel or wither, spoil , ruin , deprave, corrupt , defile, to destroy by means of corrupting, to spoil as does milk). Corruption - describes decomposition or rotting of an organism and the accompanying stench. The utter depravity of the fallen flesh and the resultant moral decomposition of the world opposed to God is driven by it sinful lusts or evil desires. Internal corruption.
Pollutions/Defilements (Strongs #3393) ("pollutions", "filthy things", "contaminations", "world's filth") describes the state of being tainted or stained by evil and refers to impurity, impure, tainted, defilement, foulness or pollution. Pollutions/Defilement refers to what is on the outside (2 Peter 2:20). But genuine believers have escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust (2 Peter 1:4).
Corruption is deeper than pollutions/defilements on the outside: it is decay on the inside.
Having the knowledge of Jesus Christ does not save a person if there is no heart submission to that knowledge. The latter end is worse than the beginning for these men because rejecting this knowledge will make them more accountable at the judgment.