ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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Ahwatukee

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Are persons putting this device into their foreheads as well?
Hi Kim82!

To answer your question, yes, just as the the scripture states, the mark will go on either the right hand or the forehead.

"And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead"

The only reasons that I can think of for the mark going in the forehead, would be:

1). for people who do not have upper limbs

2). A greater show of worship

Remember, many of the inhabitants of the earth during that time, whose names were not written in the book of life from before the world began, will be in awe of the beast and will worship him and therefore the forehead may be a greater show of worship. However, those are just my guesses. For there is just no scriptural information regarding why the mark will go on/in either the hand or the forehead. I have attached two secular videos of people in Sweden who are basically cashless and are already utilizing this mark technology:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...2743370E610BFFE708A4274&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

Have no fear, the church will be gathered from the earth prior to the revealing of the antichrist/beast and when the mark becomes the only valid way of buying and selling. I also believe that this device will continue to evolve into something smaller and more applicable.
 
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Hi Kim82!

To answer your question, yes, just as the the scripture states, the mark will go on either the right hand or the forehead.

"And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead"

The only reasons that I can think of for the mark going in the forehead, would be:

1). for people who do not have upper limbs

2). A greater show of worship

Remember, many of the inhabitants of the earth during that time, whose names were not written in the book of life from before the world began, will be in awe of the beast and will worship him and therefore the forehead may be a greater show of worship. However, those are just my guesses. For there is just no scriptural information regarding why the mark will go on/in either the hand or the forehead. I have attached two secular videos of people in Sweden who are basically cashless and are already utilizing this mark technology:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...2743370E610BFFE708A4274&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

Have no fear, the church will be gathered from the earth prior to the revealing of the antichrist/beast and when the mark becomes the only valid way of buying and selling. I also believe that this device will continue to evolve into something smaller and more applicable.
I wanted to know if at this time, the chips are being implanted into peoples head or that has not happened yet?
 

Ahwatukee

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I wanted to know if at this time, the chips are being implanted into peoples head or that has not happened yet?
So far, I have only seen the hand. I don't think that currently anyone would want something the size of a grain of rice under the skin of their forehead. That is why I believe that this device will evolve into something smaller and more applicable.
 

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I wanted to know if at this time, the chips are being implanted into peoples head or that has not happened yet?
I want to know this too. I have personally not heard yet of chips being implanted into foreheads. But there have been some claims that RFID chip can only work in hands and under the hairline which is people keep talking about RFID being the mark... I also want to know is this accurate, these two spots being the only places in the body where chip battery can work?
 
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The person who was claiming involvement in the invention of the microchip claimed that forehead and hands are the only places in the body where the body temperature change can adequately fuel the chip battery to work. As in this video - Carl Sanders is speaking, it's 5min long.

Then he says they gave me the Bible and said "don't read the book of Revelation it's too complicated". Why would these people he worked for, being supposedly so evil, give him the Bible to begin with? So something is not adding up in his story and I don't know if this is actually true. It might or might not be.

Either way. I can understand claims that adding chip to vaccination paves the way towards some physical mark - fine, I can agree on that, and I believe adding chip to vaccine is unnecessary and wrong, we have modernized cloud databases and chipped ID documents to track vaccinations outside of the body; but not that vaccines themselves are the mark of the beast. But if there is going to be a physical mark, it's supposed to be a moral decision for adult individuals, and nobody in the world is going to be medically excused from making this decision and then eating the consequences (but people with prior allergic response are exempt from further vaccines).
It makes sense that it will be a moral decision.

The antichrist will spread his influence all over the world and in the churches, and if you dont agree with his blasphemy, he will make you unable to buy and sell. He will get the governments of every nation under his control to impose all manner of evil on the people- evil things which are against the laws of God.
 

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Hi Kim82!

To answer your question, yes, just as the the scripture states, the mark will go on either the right hand or the forehead.

"And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead"

The only reasons that I can think of for the mark going in the forehead, would be:

1). for people who do not have upper limbs

2). A greater show of worship

Remember, many of the inhabitants of the earth during that time, whose names were not written in the book of life from before the world began, will be in awe of the beast and will worship him and therefore the forehead may be a greater show of worship. However, those are just my guesses. For there is just no scriptural information regarding why the mark will go on/in either the hand or the forehead. I have attached two secular videos of people in Sweden who are basically cashless and are already utilizing this mark technology:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...C5293894ECC971F10B69C5293894ECC971F&FORM=VIRE

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...2743370E610BFFE708A4274&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

Have no fear, the church will be gathered from the earth prior to the revealing of the antichrist/beast and when the mark becomes the only valid way of buying and selling. I also believe that this device will continue to evolve into something smaller and more applicable.
That second video --the guy, Hannes, who's a "bio hacker" -- yikes! Scary ideas he has. His excessive blinking also makes me wonder if he has some neurological issues.
It seems they're trying to make a chip appealing by calling people "cyborgs". Ug.
 

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I want to know this too. I have personally not heard yet of chips being implanted into foreheads. But there have been some claims that RFID chip can only work in hands and under the hairline which is people keep talking about RFID being the mark... I also want to know is this accurate, these two spots being the only places in the body where chip battery can work?
Read this article:

https://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gadgets/high-tech-gadgets/rfid.htm

It is obviously a bit old, but it will give you the basics - and save me a whole lot of typing... HAHA

RFID will work anywhere that the RF communication can be effectively established.

The "chip battery" will also perform its task anywhere; however, temperature effects could possibly affect its life expectancy.

The "real issue" regarding hand and forehead, that was mentioned by the man in the church meeting in the 5-minute video, has to do with an on-board battery charger.

I would have to research the temperature-change idea more before giving any thoughts on that.

Of course, one of the biggest factors has to do with the practicality-of-use of the location.

The hand is obviously the most practical place for such a technology to be the most useful.

The forehead is probably - mostly - an alternate location if someone has no hands.

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Something interesting about the lithium battery power source idea - it has been postulated that "noisome and grievous sore" in the following verse is descriptive of what will occur if lithium comes into contact with the tissue under the surface of the skin (from battery leakage):

Revelation 16:

2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

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Has it occurred to anyone yet to ponder the question:

"Why not the left hand?"

The only "practical" answer I have ever come across just may grap your attention in more ways than you might expect...
 

SoulWeaver

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Read this article:

https://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gadgets/high-tech-gadgets/rfid.htm

It is obviously a bit old, but it will give you the basics - and save me a whole lot of typing... HAHA

RFID will work anywhere that the RF communication can be effectively established.

The "chip battery" will also perform its task anywhere; however, temperature effects could possibly affect its life expectancy.

The "real issue" regarding hand and forehead, that was mentioned by the man in the church meeting in the 5-minute video, has to do with an on-board battery charger.

I would have to research the temperature-change idea more before giving any thoughts on that.

Of course, one of the biggest factors has to do with the practicality-of-use of the location.

The hand is obviously the most practical place for such a technology to be the most useful.

The forehead is probably - mostly - an alternate location if someone has no hands.

~

Something interesting about the lithium battery power source idea - it has been postulated that "noisome and grievous sore" in the following verse is descriptive of what will occur if lithium comes into contact with the tissue under the surface of the skin (from battery leakage):

Revelation 16:

2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

~

Has it occurred to anyone yet to ponder the question:

"Why not the left hand?"

The only "practical" answer I have ever come across just may grap your attention in more ways than you might expect...
I read the article, informative, but it unfortunately doesn't answer my question about forehead and right hand... if you know something or have reached some conclusions, please don't hold back.
 

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I read the article, informative, but it unfortunately doesn't answer my question about forehead and right hand... if you know something or have reached some conclusions, please don't hold back.
I thought I answered your question.

Please ask it again very succinctly.
 

SoulWeaver

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I thought I answered your question.

Please ask it again very succinctly.
I wanted to know if it is accurate that the RFID can only work properly in forehead and right hand? I admit I am not too knowledgeable in this area (electronics) so this is going a bit over my head, although I understand the basics of the RFID technology. You said you were not sure yet... and the last sentence sounded like a tease but you didn't tell in the end what you concluded why not left hand :)
I am definitely not chipping myself, I believe there's no good excuse for microchipping anyone's BODY, there are chipped documents, and convenient items like bracelets you can't lose, to cover all kinds of necessities, if there is a medical necessity, like Alzheimer's...
 

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I wanted to know if it is accurate that the RFID can only work properly in forehead and right hand?
My answer to this question:
RFID will work anywhere that the RF communication can be effectively established.

The "chip battery" will also perform its task anywhere; however, temperature effects could possibly affect its life expectancy.
This means - no - it is not accurate that the RFID can only work properly in forehead and right hand.

You said you were not sure yet...
Assuming you are talking about this:
The "real issue" regarding hand and forehead, that was mentioned by the man in the church meeting in the 5-minute video, has to do with an on-board battery charger.

I would have to research the temperature-change idea more before giving any thoughts on that.
I did not say I was not sure yet - I indicated that I preferred not to say much to that specific aspect of it until I researched it a bit...

The man did not say it would only work in forehead and right hand. He said forehead and [either] hand. He "dismissed" the left hand under the assumption that "most people use their right hand the most" (or something very similar to that).

There is no technological reason for something to work in one hand any different than in the other hand.

The idea about "forehead or right hand" (not including left hand) comes from something else - it is not a technological issue.

and the last sentence sounded like a tease but you didn't tell in the end what you concluded why not left hand :)
You mean this? :
Has it occurred to anyone yet to ponder the question:

"Why not the left hand?"

The only "practical" answer I have ever come across just may grap your attention in more ways than you might expect...
Yes - it was a tease of sorts - because I haven't given the answer yet. (I intended to save that for a later post.)

:)
 

SoulWeaver

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My answer to this question:

This means - no - it is not accurate that the RFID can only work properly in forehead and right hand.


Assuming you are talking about this:

I did not say I was not sure yet - I indicated that I preferred not to say much to that specific aspect of it until I researched it a bit...

The man did not say it would only work in forehead and right hand. He said forehead and [either] hand. He "dismissed" the left hand under the assumption that "most people use their right hand the most" (or something very similar to that).

There is no technological reason for something to work in one hand any different than in the other hand.

The idea about "forehead or right hand" (not including left hand) comes from something else - it is not a technological issue.


You mean this? :

Yes - it was a tease of sorts - because I haven't given the answer yet. (I intended to save that for a later post.)

:)
Okay, just tag me when you post it, because to me too his (the guy from the video I linked a few posts ago) argument about the left hand sounded weak and I want to hear what you think. It also made no sense to me how these people that he was developing the microchip for supposedly gave him the Bible to read. And "don't read the book of Revelation". Sounds like a completely made up story to me, but who knows.
 

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Okay, just tag me when you post it, because to me too his (the guy from the video I linked a few posts ago) argument about the left hand sounded weak. It also made no sense to me how these people that he was developing the microchip for supposedly gave him the Bible to read. And "don't read the book of Revelation". Sounds like a completely made up story to me, but who knows.
It was weak - very weak.

You would probably do better to simply research it.

Within reason - I don't mind answering some questions - I have been in electronics since my age was a one-digit number.

(I know how a lot of things work. I don't claim to know it all; however, I do know quite-a-bit...)

Is your real question - "Why not the left hand?" - ?

:)
 

SoulWeaver

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It was weak - very weak.

You would probably do better to simply research it.

Within reason - I don't mind answering some questions - I have been in electronics since my age was a one-digit number.

(I know how a lot of things work. I don't claim to know it all; however, I do know quite-a-bit...)

Is your real question - "Why not the left hand?" - ?

:)
I am trying to determine if this RFID thing is a serious match to Bible prophecy at all to be considered, or not, because it seems wrong - there's absolutely potential for abuse, but something is fishy when lining it up against prophecy, it's just not adding up.
 

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You would probably do better to simply research it.
What I meant by this was - just consider the usefulness of that particular video to be "already at maximum", and "move on" to more of a research-for-facts mode of thinking.
 
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It was weak - very weak.

You would probably do better to simply research it.

Within reason - I don't mind answering some questions - I have been in electronics since my age was a one-digit number.

(I know how a lot of things work. I don't claim to know it all; however, I do know quite-a-bit...)

Is your real question - "Why not the left hand?" - ?

:)
I don't know if it is SW's question but it is mine. Why not the left hand?
Is it because Gates is left handed and he has something to do with it?
 

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I am trying to determine if this RFID thing is a serious match to Bible prophecy at all to be considered, or not, because it seems wrong absolutely there's potential for evil, but something is fishy when lining it to prophecy, it's just not adding up.
It is a serious possibility for a match.

It is "in the running" for a valid contender.
 

SoulWeaver

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It is a serious possibility for a match.

It is "in the running" for a valid contender.
I do not contest your opinion. But the reason I'm asking these questions is that I'm seeing people wanting so badly for this to fit that they are pretzeling things to fit it. It's supposed to be worship of a man, but now people are saying, "oh, it's the government, it's about GOVERNMENT worship". No it's not, you just made that up, so you can cram events into prophecy to make it fit. So that's why I'm questioning it, because I'm a contrarian. lol. And this is not by any means to be taken as in, that chipping people is okay.
 

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I don't know if it is SW's question but it is mine. Why not the left hand?
Is it because Gates is left handed and he has something to do with it?
No - nothing like that...

It is related to the personal-hygiene customs of Muslims.

Muslims do not use toilet paper. They use their left hand.

They consider the right hand to be 'clean'/'honorable'.

They consider the left hand to be 'unclean'/'dishonorable'.

(Look up 'Muslim toilet paper left hand' or 'Islamic toilet etiquette' on the internet.)

As for the rest - think about it for a while...
 

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I do not contest your opinion. But the reason I'm asking these questions is that I'm seeing people wanting so badly for this to fit that they are pretzeling things to fit it. It's supposed to be worship of a man, but now people are saying, "oh, it's the government, it's about GOVERNMENT worship". No it's not, you just made that up, so you can cram events into prophecy to make it fit. So that's why I'm questioning it, because I'm a contrarian. lol. And this is not by any means to be taken as in, that chipping people is okay.
Your questioning it is reasonable. Just don't confuse the 'religious'/'spiritual'/'biblical' aspect of it with what kind of technology may be used to implement it.

I personally believe that the prophecy is literal - that it actually involves some kind of "mark" in/on the forehead or right hand.

The 'but not the left hand' aspect of it is purely 'religious'. What technology may be used to implement it is a totally separate issue.

Let's focus on your concern for a moment - "name a pretzle" - be specific.
 
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