Replacement theology.

[eternally-gratefull]

"All Israel" is made up of the full number of believing gentiles and Jews,

not in the text,

the text says Isreal is blinded in part, UNTIL.

in the text, Gentiles are seperate.

you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens Eph.2:19

The Bible doesnt say that all Jews will be saved someday. It does say all believers are saved.

the Bible does not have to say all believers will be saved, everyone known that

it does say all Israel, you my friend just called Paul, and in essence, the Holy Spirit who inspired paul to write those words, and the many prophets who also show that at a time unknown God will open the eyes of Israel and bring them back to her land, and he will take away their sins, and they will see and believe ane he will be their God and the whole world (Gentiles) will know and worship him also

that day has not yet come, but one day it will. What a glorious day that will be (sadly we have To almost destroy ourselves in tribulation before that happens,

 

[Journeyman]

Part of, the Jews were suppose to bring the Gospel to the world, they didn't So then it was brought to the Gentiles. Therefore Jews were part of His plan. God still has a plan for the Jewish people apart from the Gentiles.

The Jewish disciples of Jesus were missionaries and wrote the Bible, so yes they did bring the godpel to the world. Gods people are one in the Lord, not apart,

And it shall come to pass, that ye shall divide it by lot for an inheritance unto you, and to the strangers that sojourn among you, which shall beget children among you: and they shall be unto you as born in the country among the children of Israel; they shall have inheritancewith you among the tribes of Israel. Eze.47:22

Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; Eph.2:19

 

[Journeyman]

not in the text,

the text says Isreal is blinded in part, UNTIL.

in the text, Gentiles are seperate.



the Bible does not have to say all believers will be saved, everyone known that

it does say all Israel, you my friend just called Paul, and in essence, the Holy Spirit who inspired paul to write those words, and the many prophets who also show that at a time unknown God will open the eyes of Israel and bring them back to her land, and he will take away their sins, and they will see and believe ane he will be their God and the whole world (Gentiles) will know and worship him also

that day has not yet come, but one day it will. What a glorious day that will be (sadly we have To almost destroy ourselves in tribulation before that happens,

Paul isn't saying all Jews will be saved after the full number of gentiles. He's saying Jews are blinded in part until the full number of gentiles and then those blinded will be damned,

I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. Rom.9:2

Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. Rom.10:1

Salvation through the gospel is all we have. Paul told gentile believers to be merciful to unbelieving Jews so that they might be saved. He never took the position that someday all Jews would receive Christ. And you're interpreting the propets the way Judaism does. You're making a terrible mistake.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Paul isn't saying all Jews will be saved after the full number of gentiles. He's saying Jews are blinded in part until the full number of gentiles and then those blinded will be damned,

I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. Rom.9:2

Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. Rom.10:1

Salvation through the gospel is all we have. Paul told gentile believers to be merciful to unbelieving Jews so that they might be saved. He never took the position that someday all Jews would receive Christ. And you're interpreting the propets the way Judaism does. You're making a terrible mistake.

Please show me the word damned in Romans 11

he said at that time all will be saved

one more time

25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own [f]opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

blindness In part will continue UNTIL this time

26 And so all Israel will be [g]saved, as it is written:

the word so in the Greek, means in this manner, this literally says, in this manner all Isreal will be saved!

then he explains


“The Deliverer will come out of Zion,
And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
27 For this is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins.”

this is a future event. It is not talking about what Jesus did but what he will do

1. he will come out of Zion (see revelations, at his return, he returns to Zion)
2. He turns away the ungodliness of Jacob (this is the nation, and includes those who are blinded in part)
3. This is Gods covenant with THEM! (god does not have this covenant with gentiles, that’s WHY paul told us not to be decieved

Sorry man, you keep going all over the place, just stick to Romans 11. Again, Romans 9 is a different context, Romans 11 has nothing to do with Romans 9!

 

[KJV1611]

It’s amazing that people try to replace Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Peter, Paul, me and other believers in Christ with God hating, Christ killing, enemies of the gospel, flesh descendants of Israel. Blows my mind!

 

[GraceAndTruth]

Perhaps you need to understand who Scofield was, and what his reference bible taught, then you will be a little more understanding on how dispensationalism spread throughout the world.

Adulterer Scofield is the godfather of modern dispensationalism, hands down.

Actually Darby is, Scofield just defined it for Americans.

 

[GraceAndTruth]

It’s amazing that people try to replace Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Peter, Paul, me and other believers in Christ with God hating, Christ killing, enemies of the gospel, flesh descendants of Israel. Blows my mind!

I know Thansgiving is near.......but try not to be the turkey.
Ahhh....thanksgiving......the feast of the CALVINISTS.

 

[GraceAndTruth]

It’s amazing that people try to replace Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Peter, Paul, me and other believers in Christ with God hating, Christ killing, enemies of the gospel, flesh descendants of Israel. Blows my mind!

Obviously.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It’s amazing that people try to replace Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Peter, Paul, me and other believers in Christ with God hating, Christ killing, enemies of the gospel, flesh descendants of Israel. Blows my mind!

It’s amazing after years of showing you what we really belief, you still slander us with your lies

it’s past time you can claim ignorance, you have been shown truth, you have no excuse for continuing to spread this lie about what we believe

 

[GraceAndTruth]

Never said that wasn't part of the plan. But Romans says the Jews have been blinded for a time until the Gentiles come in. So yes, put on hold.



There will come a time where the Jews will realize that Jesus was the Messiah. Until that time they are blinded.

The time of the Gentiles is now, the Nation of Israel has been rejected but believing Jews with believing Gentiles are now the church.
You can get all worked up and call it 'replacement' but if anyone replaced it .......it is God. God is sovereign over His creation. He can choose you or reject you, He can favor a nation or bring disaster on it. He does His will and none can say no.

I blame that evil toad Dave Hunt for starting down this road.

 

[Truth7t7]

It’s amazing that people try to replace Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, Peter, Paul, me and other believers in Christ with God hating, Christ killing, enemies of the gospel, flesh descendants of Israel. Blows my mind!

Good seeing ya, came out of the bomb shelter?

 

[Truth7t7]

"All Israel" is made up of the full number of believing gentiles and Jews,

you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens Eph.2:19

The Bible doesnt say that all Jews will be saved someday. It does say all believers are saved.

I agree 100%

The Church is Israel, and the Remnant Chosen Elect will be added to this Israel the Church.

To suggest that God has favor for a person based upon Ethnic Heritage And Background?

Example: A Jew that is in the deepest evil sin you could imagine, for his/her entire life of 60+ years, and poof their forgiven and saved, by the thousands based upon their Ethnic Heritage?

And people believe this garbage?

 

[Truth7t7]

You don’t get it

There is only a remnant UNTIL the time of the gentile is finished

THEN (at that time) they will ALL be saved because at that time the redeemer will come and turn the ungodliness away from Israel (rom 11)

You keep missing the words UNTIL and WILL

You don't get it, the entire chapter is explaining the chosen Remnant elect, 2/3 will be cut off and die Zech 13:8-9, only the Remnant elect are beloved the father, not all Jews.

Only the Remnant elect are saved, those whom God foreknew, not all Jews,as the very word (Remnant) means a small surviving group

Merriam Webster
Definition of (remnant)

1a: a usually small part, member, or trace remaining
b: a small surviving group —often used in plural

Roman's 11:2-5 & 26-28KJV
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

 

[Truth7t7]

Actually Darby is, Scofield just defined it for Americans.

Scofield defined it for the (World)

His 1909 reference bible sold millions of copies around the (World)

The Scofield reference bible was the greatest world influence, planting the teachings of dispensationalism around the world.

Yes Darby did precede Scofield and is the historical foundation, but Scofield is the modern giant in Dispensationalism's wide distribution.

Wikipedia: Scofield Reference Bible is a widely circulated study Bible edited and annotated by the American Bible student Cyrus I. Scofield, which popularized dispensationalism at the beginning of the 20th century. Published by Oxford University Press and containing the entire text of the traditional, Protestant King James Version, it first appeared in 1909 and was revised by the author in 1917.[1]

 

[KJV1611]

I know Thansgiving is near.......but try not to be the turkey.
Ahhh....thanksgiving......the feast of the CALVINISTS.

The Calvinist view is just as screwed up as the dispensationalist view lol. Any cult that starts with the premise that God’s chosen people only come from one bloodline is satanic and probably seeded by the Kabbalistic Jews. The absolute funniest part of that is that those Kabbalistic Jews absolutely hate God, Jesus and Christians and you guys practically worship them.

 

[Truth7t7]

The Calvinist view is just as screwed up as the dispensationalist view lol. Any cult that starts with the premise that God’s chosen people only come from one bloodline is satanic and probably seeded by the Kabbalistic Jews. The absolute funniest part of that is that those Kabbalistic Jews absolutely hate God, Jesus and Christians and you guys practically worship them.

True story, they hate Jesus Christ and Christian's(Goyim)

The Talmud teaching of the Rabbis states (Jesus was boiled in human feces) its lawful to steal from and kill gentiles (Goyim) etc

Yes you can throw their book of the occult, the Kabbalah in tooo, Pure Evil!

And many think they are Gods chosen based upon ethnic heritage?

Unholy!

 

[KJV1611]

True story, they hate Jesus Christ and Christian's(Goyim)

The Talmud teaching of the Rabbis states (Jesus was boiled in human feces) its lawful to steal from and kill gentiles (Goyim) etc

Yes you can throw their book of the occult, the Kabbalah in tooo, Pure Evil!

And many think they are Gods chosen based upon ethnic heritage?

Unholy!

It’s upside down, an inversion of the truth, the whole world is upside down right now.

 

[Truth7t7]

It’s upside down, an inversion of the truth, the whole world is upside down right now.

US 2020 Election Machines, (Dominion/Smartmatic) (George Soros) With Ties To Venezuela (Fraud)?

Sorta Hard To Believe, So I did a little research, it's TRUE!

Lord Mark Brown CEO of Smartmatic, being George Soros right hand man?

The US has (Several) States using these machines, and it's in all the battle ground states, (Scary)

This system was developed and used in Venezuela, under the Maduro regime to rig elections, it was used in 2016 Phillipines to rig their election, Argentina, many, the info and youtube vids are never ending!

It is claimed the vote tallies leave the US to a central server in Spain/Germany, then returns back to the US?

(Absolutely Scary)!

Washington Examiner

Officials raised concerns for years about security of US voting machines, software systems
By Bethany Blankley, The Center Square
November 9, 2020 - 12:00 PM

According to a Penn Wharton study, "The Business of Voting," Dominion Voting Systems reached approximately 71 million voters in 1,635 jurisdictions in the U.S. in 2016.

Dominion “got into trouble” with several subsidiaries it used over alleged cases of fraud. One subsidiary is Smartmatic

Smartmatic’s chairman is a member of the British House of Lords, Mark Malloch Brown, a former vice-chairman of George Soros’ Investment Funds, former vice-president at the World Bank

Wikipedia: Smartmatic

Founding
In 1997,[4] three engineers, Antonio Mugica, Alfredo José Anzola and Roger Piñate, began collaborating in a group while working at Panagroup Corp. in Caracas, Venezuela.

SGO Corporation

Lord Malloch Brown
In 2014, Smartmatic’s CEO Antonio Mugica and British Lord Mark Malloch-Brown announced the launching of the SGO Corporation Limited,

Wikipedia: Mark Malloch Brown, Baron Malloch-Brown Malloch Brown has been closely associated with billionaire speculator George Soros. Working for Refugees International, he was part of the Soros Advisory Committee on Bosnia in 1993–94, formed by Soros. He has since kept cordial relations with Soros, and rented an apartment owned by Soros while working in New York on UN assignments.[51] While serving as United Nations Development Programme Administrator, Malloch Brown spoke beside Soros in 2002 suggesting that United Nations and Soros's Open Society Institute, as well as other organizations, work together to fund humanitarian functions.[52]
In May 2007, Soros's Quantum Fund announced the appointment of Malloch Brown as vice-president.[53] In September 2007, The Observer reported that he had resigned this position on becoming a government minister in the UK.[54] Also in May 2007, Malloch Brown was named vice-chairman of Soros Fund Management and the Open Society Institute, two other important Soros organisations.[55]

 

[KJV1611]

US 2020 Election Machines, (Dominion/Smartmatic) (George Soros) With Ties To Venezuela (Fraud)?

Sorta Hard To Believe, So I did a little research, it's TRUE!

Lord Mark Brown CEO of Smartmatic, being George Soros right hand man?

The US has (Several) States using these machines, and it's in all the battle ground states, (Scary)

This system was developed and used in Venezuela, under the Maduro regime to rig elections, it was used in 2016 Phillipines to rig their election, Argentina, many, the info and youtube vids are never ending!

It is claimed the vote tallies leave the US to a central server in Spain/Germany, then returns back to the US?

(Absolutely Scary)!

Washington Examiner

Officials raised concerns for years about security of US voting machines, software systems
By Bethany Blankley, The Center Square
November 9, 2020 - 12:00 PM

According to a Penn Wharton study, "The Business of Voting," Dominion Voting Systems reached approximately 71 million voters in 1,635 jurisdictions in the U.S. in 2016.

Dominion “got into trouble” with several subsidiaries it used over alleged cases of fraud. One subsidiary is Smartmatic

Smartmatic’s chairman is a member of the British House of Lords, Mark Malloch Brown, a former vice-chairman of George Soros’ Investment Funds, former vice-president at the World Bank

Wikipedia: Smartmatic

Founding
In 1997,[4] three engineers, Antonio Mugica, Alfredo José Anzola and Roger Piñate, began collaborating in a group while working at Panagroup Corp. in Caracas, Venezuela.

SGO Corporation

Lord Malloch Brown
In 2014, Smartmatic’s CEO Antonio Mugica and British Lord Mark Malloch-Brown announced the launching of the SGO Corporation Limited,

Wikipedia: Mark Malloch Brown, Baron Malloch-Brown Malloch Brown has been closely associated with billionaire speculator George Soros. Working for Refugees International, he was part of the Soros Advisory Committee on Bosnia in 1993–94, formed by Soros. He has since kept cordial relations with Soros, and rented an apartment owned by Soros while working in New York on UN assignments.[51] While serving as United Nations Development Programme Administrator, Malloch Brown spoke beside Soros in 2002 suggesting that United Nations and Soros's Open Society Institute, as well as other organizations, work together to fund humanitarian functions.[52]
In May 2007, Soros's Quantum Fund announced the appointment of Malloch Brown as vice-president.[53] In September 2007, The Observer reported that he had resigned this position on becoming a government minister in the UK.[54] Also in May 2007, Malloch Brown was named vice-chairman of Soros Fund Management and the Open Society Institute, two other important Soros organisations.[55]

Elections have been rigged for years. Thing is, now they want us to know it so they can take the election from Biden and declare Trump the winner. When that happens the left will erupt into violence and civil war will begin. Civil war is the goal, divide and conquer.

 

[Journeyman]

Please show me the word damned in Romans 11

David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: Rom.11:9

He's quoting Psa.69, where the Spirit said,

Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous. Psa.69:28

But this Psalm describes anyone who rejects Jesus, whether Jew or gentile and anyone who does will be damned.

he said at that time all will be saved

one more time

25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own [f]opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

blindness In part will continue UNTIL this time

26 And so all Israel will be [g]saved, as it is written:

the word so in the Greek, means in this manner, this literally says, in this manner all Isreal will be saved!

The "mystery" is this,

understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ, which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit. that the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel Eph.3:4-6

then he explains

“The Deliverer will come out of Zion,
And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
27 For this is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins.”

this is a future event. It is not talking about what Jesus did but what he will do

1. he will come out of Zion (see revelations, at his return, he returns to Zion)

No it isn't a future event. it's about Jesus's sacrifice,

And he said to them, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many. Mk.14:24

And because of his sacrifice,

For this is the covenant that I wil
make with the house of Israel after those days....and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. Heb.8:10,12

2. He turns away the ungodliness of Jacob (this is the nation, and includes those who are blinded in part)

No, this isn't a future event. Peter spoke to his countrymen who were blind to the truth and said,

And now, brethren, I wot that through ignorance ye did it, as did also your rulers....Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. Act.3:17,26

They repented and their were forgiven.

3. This is Gods covenant with THEM! (god does not have this covenant with gentiles, that’s WHY paul told us not to be decieved

Sorry man, you keep going all over the place, just stick to Romans 11. Again, Romans 9 is a different context, Romans 11 has nothing to do with Romans 9!

I'm not going all over the place like a loose cannon. The Prophets and Apostles taught that Gods church (ekklēsia-alled out ones) is one in Christ. Abraham, Moses, all the Israelites, were being called out of this evil world. Some don't want to leave it. And gentiles are no different. But anyone who does, whether Jew or gentile becomes part of God's holy Nation.

Youre forcing Judaism into the scriptures. Youre trying to separate God's people from one another, instead of separating God's people from this sinful world. Youre making a terrible mistake.