Replacement theology.

[eternally-gratefull]

Not all Jews are going to be saved, only the chosen remnant elect will be saved the 1/3

You fail to acknowledge that 2/3 are cut off and (DIE)

Zechariah 13:8-9KJV
8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

SMH

Romans 11 :
Romans 11:25–28 (NKJV): For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:
“The Deliverer will come out of Zion,
And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
27 For this is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins.”
28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers

1. He is warning you about what you are doing
2 he said the partial blindness will continue UNTIL a certain point (until then there will be a remnant if jews saved the rest will be blinded
3 when the time of the gentile has been completed ALL Israel will be saved. All means Allan it means the ones who were blinded in part and still alive will repent. The nation will repent period
4 right now isreal is hated because they appose the gospel so for that sake they are hated. But Paul said they are to be loved because of Gods promise to the fathers

The gifts and calling if god are irrevocable

God does not go back on his promises. Period

The passage you keep posting does not contradict this message.

 

[Truth7t7]

SMH

Romans 11 :
Romans 11:25–28 (NKJV): For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:
“The Deliverer will come out of Zion,
And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
27 For this is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins.”
28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers

1. He is warning you about what you are doing
2 he said the partial blindness will continue UNTIL a certain point (until then there will be a remnant if jews saved the rest will be blinded
3 when the time of the gentile has been completed ALL Israel will be saved. All means Allan it means the ones who were blinded in part and still alive will repent. The nation will repent period
4 right now isreal is hated because they appose the gospel so for that sake they are hated. But Paul said they are to be loved because of Gods promise to the fathers

The gifts and calling if god are irrevocable

God does not go back on his promises. Period

The passage you keep posting does not contradict this message.

Only the Remnant elect are saved, those whom God foreknew, not all Jews,as the very word (Remnant) means a small surviving group

Merriam Webster
Definition of (remnant)

1a: a usually small part, member, or trace remaining
b: a small surviving group —often used in plural

Roman's 11:2-5 & 26-28KJV
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

 

[Truth7t7]

Dude I grew up on the Scofield reference Bible (KJV) and I still use the New Scofield in the new King James Version so don’t try to tell me what he believes because I know
by the way Kung David was a murderous adulterer. Should I ignore the psalms? Because he was not a very righteous person?

Why are you afraid to discuss what the bible actually says. It seems all you want to do is attack a man you never met and a belief system you have already shown you do not understand? That will get us no where My friend.

King David repented of his sin, just read the Psalm's

Adulterer (C.I. Scofield) remained married to (Hettie Van Wart) until his death in 1921, while his wife Leotine lived (Adultery)

God didn't use Scofield to bring biblical truth to this world, Scofield was a corrupt tree,and his WORKS are corrupt fruit.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Only the Remnant elect are saved, those whom God foreknew, not all Jews,as the very word (Remnant) means a small surviving group

Merriam Webster
Definition of (remnant)

1a: a usually small part, member, or trace remaining
b: a small surviving group —often used in plural

Roman's 11:2-5 & 26-28KJV
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

You don’t get it

There is only a remnant UNTIL the time of the gentile is finished

THEN (at that time) they will ALL be saved because at that time the redeemer will come and turn the ungodliness away from Israel (rom 11)

You keep missing the words UNTIL and WILL

 

[eternally-gratefull]

King David repented of his sin, just read the Psalm's

Adulterer (C.I. Scofield) remained married to (Hettie Van Wart) until his death in 1921, while his wife Leotine lived (Adultery)

God didn't use Scofield to bring biblical truth to this world, Scofield was a corrupt tree,and his WORKS are corrupt fruit.

Um king David had many wives until the day he died

One last time man are you going to discuss the word or just attack a man?

I do not get my belief from that man so attacking him does not help your argument.

 

[Truth7t7]

Um king David had many wives until the day he died

One last time man are you going to discuss the word or just attack a man?

I do not get my belief from that man so attacking him does not help your argument.

Of course you follow Darby and Scofield in dispensationalism, because a Pre-Trib rapture isn't found in scripture, nowhere

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Of course you follow Darby and Scofield in dispensationalism, because a Pre-Trib rapture isn't found in scripture, nowhere

Last warning
are you just going to attack people
or do you wish to discuss The word

Who said I was pre-trib?

Let’s discuss the word or I will ignore you because you have nothing that can help me

 

[Truth7t7]

Last warning
are you just going to attack people
or do you wish to discuss The word

Who said I was pre-trib?

Let’s discuss the word or I will ignore you because you have nothing that can help me

Do you believe in a Pre-Trib rapture?

Do you believe in a future Millennial Kingdom on this earth?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Do you believe in a Pre-Trib rapture?

Do you believe in a future Millennial Kingdom on this earth?

Your not doing what I said

Do you want to discuss those things and everything about my belief or just attack?

I am not playing your game.

 

[kaylagrl]

Gods plan is to save anyone who believes the gospel, whether Jew or gentile and his plan never was put on hold.

Never said that wasn't part of the plan. But Romans says the Jews have been blinded for a time until the Gentiles come in. So yes, put on hold.

When Paul speaks of salvation coming to the gentiles because of "patrial blindness" of the Jews, he means unbelieving Jews killed Jesus and by his subsequent resurrection, the gospel was spread to the whole world. He says,

Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. Rom.11:31

He means by preaching the gospel to them, now, not later.

There will come a time where the Jews will realize that Jesus was the Messiah. Until that time they are blinded.

 

[GraceAndTruth]

We are all children of God. This sounds anti-semitic. God is not tribal, thoughI realize that some think that "he" is.

God is the creator of all but is NOT the Father of all. Out of all His creations, God adopts HIS children.
Esau was not loved by God, God hated him while he was in the womb. And tho Esau sought for repentance with tears, God would not grant it to him. Did God love Judas? The bible says Judas was created to betray Jesus. He is called 'the son of perdition'. (hell)

God has rejected the nation Israel, but not every person of Israel. There is always a remnant to be God's choice.
The Gentiles are grafted into those roots and the two become the church. New covenant because old is done.

 

[oyster67]

Jews don't become christian.

Didn't you mean "Jews don't become Gentiles."?

The early Christian Church was composed mostly of Jewish Christians.

I fully agree with the rest of your post.

 

[Journeyman]

No one said it was

Yep. And he also said at some time all of them will. So because if this. We should not be so arrogant because just as they fell we can fall also

Paul never said at some time all Jews will believe in Jesus. He did teach that Gods holy nation is made up of all believers.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Paul never said at some time all Jews will believe in Jesus. He did teach that Gods holy nation is made up of all believers.

I guess your right

I guess paul never said Israel is blinded in part until the fullness of the gentiles is complete and then ALL ISRAEL will be saved

Silly me for thinking such a thing

 

[eternally-gratefull]

God is the creator of all but is NOT the Father of all. Out of all His creations, God adopts HIS children.
Esau was not loved by God, God hated him while he was in the womb. And tho Esau sought for repentance with tears, God would not grant it to him. Did God love Judas? The bible says Judas was created to betray Jesus. He is called 'the son of perdition'. (hell)

God has rejected the nation Israel, but not every person of Israel. There is always a remnant to be God's choice.
The Gentiles are grafted into those roots and the two become the church. New covenant because old is done.

God did not hate Esau while in the womb

Talk about talking a passage of scripture of Malachi and destroying it to fit your belief system

You should be ashamed

 

[Journeyman]

Never said that wasn't part of the plan. But Romans says the Jews have been blinded for a time until the Gentiles come in. So yes, put on hold.

There will come a time where the Jews will realize that Jesus was the Messiah. Until that time they are blinded.

The gospel isn't part of God's plan. Its 100% of Gods plan and Jews have come to faith in Jesus since the gospel was first preached. They have never been completely blind. Paul does teach that believers, regardless of race, comprise the one holy nation of God.

 

[Journeyman]

I guess your right

I guess paul never said Israel is blinded in part until the fullness of the gentiles is complete and then ALL ISRAEL will be saved

Silly me for thinking such a thing

"All Israel" is made up of the full number of believing gentiles and Jews,

you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens Eph.2:19

The Bible doesnt say that all Jews will be saved someday. It does say all believers are saved.

 

[kaylagrl]

The gospel isn't part of God's plan. Its 100% of Gods plan and Jews have come to faith in Jesus since the gospel was first preached. They have never been completely blind. Paul does teach that believers, regardless of race, comprise the one holy nation of God.

Part of, the Jews were suppose to bring the Gospel to the world, they didn't So then it was brought to the Gentiles. Therefore Jews were part of His plan. God still has a plan for the Jewish people apart from the Gentiles.

 

[kaylagrl]

I guess your right

I guess paul never said Israel is blinded in part until the fullness of the gentiles is complete and then ALL ISRAEL will be saved

Silly me for thinking such a thing

Yeah I really wish you'd stop making stuff up out of thin air...

 

[pottersclay]

Didn't you mean "Jews don't become Gentiles."?

The early Christian Church was composed mostly of Jewish Christians.

I fully agree with the rest of your post.

That my friend is the mystery to be revealed. Look again at the sealing of the 144000 they are known to God by there tribe. God knows who they are . Let me leave it at that for now😁