PREVENIENT GRACE: AN ARMINIAN ERROR
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Let's stick to the Scriptures. The boasting verse your talking about is referring to is this :
8For by grace are ye saved through faith ; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9not of works , lest any man should boast.
So sticking to scripture ,and not clever little questions designed to worry someone into a position they have been tricked into believing also. What is the ' boasting ' about? The answer is' works ' So your question and the way you framed it does not apply and is irrelevant. Faith is not a work .
8For by grace are ye saved through faith ; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9not of works , lest any man should boast.
So sticking to scripture ,and not clever little questions designed to worry someone into a position they have been tricked into believing also. What is the ' boasting ' about? The answer is' works ' So your question and the way you framed it does not apply and is irrelevant. Faith is not a work .
8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
Conviction of the Holy Spirit is necessary for salvation, but occurs to sinners alike, regardless of consequent faith or unbelief. It is not irresistible or unconditionally selective. (Jn. 16:7-11)
9Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
Conviction of the Holy Spirit is necessary for salvation, but occurs to sinners alike, regardless of consequent faith or unbelief. It is not irresistible or unconditionally selective. (Jn. 16:7-11)
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I think we can use common sense and assume certain eternal principles will apply based on context.
So if the Rock of Illumination by the Father of the saving nature of Jesus Christ is what the church will be built on, it does not change whether Peter had a revelation of Jesus being Christ the anointed one, the Messiah they had been taught about from the OT scriptures had arrived in the person of Jesus Christ, or if it is a revelation to Cornelius that Jesus will save them from their sins and grant them eternal life, two people with different backgrounds of information or concepts about what Jesus saving would mean, would not change the fact that the Faith that made them embrace the idea that Jesus is the one that God had ordained to save the world, the one who can change my life, is still the ROCK that the church will be built on. This faith adds another stone to the building.
So if the Rock of Illumination by the Father of the saving nature of Jesus Christ is what the church will be built on, it does not change whether Peter had a revelation of Jesus being Christ the anointed one, the Messiah they had been taught about from the OT scriptures had arrived in the person of Jesus Christ, or if it is a revelation to Cornelius that Jesus will save them from their sins and grant them eternal life, two people with different backgrounds of information or concepts about what Jesus saving would mean, would not change the fact that the Faith that made them embrace the idea that Jesus is the one that God had ordained to save the world, the one who can change my life, is still the ROCK that the church will be built on. This faith adds another stone to the building.
For the normative appropriation of salvation i believe we need to look at Paul's episties ..We know today as Jesus told us would be the case when the Holy Spirit would be given .
8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
12¶I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
12¶I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
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The bereans were more noble were they boastful ?
Their intellect did not convince them, what ever that means..No the scriptures convinced them.
Paul went about preaching the Gospel reasoning from the scriptures.
Hebrews 4:12
“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”
I would say if someone believes they have made a wise decision .To obey from the heart To trust in Jesus is the ' smartest ' decision one could ever make . Amen
Romans 6:17
“But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Their intellect did not convince them, what ever that means..No the scriptures convinced them.
Paul went about preaching the Gospel reasoning from the scriptures.
Hebrews 4:12
“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”
I would say if someone believes they have made a wise decision .To obey from the heart To trust in Jesus is the ' smartest ' decision one could ever make . Amen
Romans 6:17
“But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
