Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"
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Jesus gave them new commands after the resurrection. Didn’t you get the memo?
Matthew 28:18-20. Acts 1:8, Luke 24:47-48. etc.
No, I think they're purposefully ignoring the posting that explains all that. Posts 1,211 and 1,212
Israel was given a one year extension after the cross, as prophesied by Jesus in Luke 13:6-9, see vs 8-9 especially.
That is why Jesus did not correct the 11 when they asked him the final question about the kingdom being restored to Israel, before he ascended in Acts 1:6. Israel was still God's favored nation then and had a chance to repent and be baptized under the gospel of the kingdom.
That one year period expired around the time Stephen was stoned, in Acts 7.
I believe Jesus save us if we endure unto the end.
Matt 24:13
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.”
I kind of agree that those in Christ do not make habit sinning, but as long as we still live, we have a chances to repent from habit sinning. Or we are under these verse
1 cor 6
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous[a] will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Not inherit the kingdom of God or not save.
Peter was as astonished as the rest of the Jewish believers when that happened. (Acts 10:45).
That was the reason why in Acts 11, when the other Jewish believers who were not there asked him why he ate with gentiles, he did not refer them back to the Great Commission given in Matt 28. He referred back to what happened in Acts 10 instead.
For good reason, everyone who understood Jesus at Matt 28 understood that Jesus was not referring to preaching the gospel of the kingdom to the gentiles immediately, as stated in Matthew 10:5.
You know I haven’t seen so much bickering amongst Christians as I have in here. Paul would write a letter to you if he was still alive. He would tell you what he told the corinthians. To know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. God saves, keeps, and will one day deliver his children.
Peter was as astonished as the rest of the Jewish believers when Cornelius was saved "ahead of time" (Acts 10:45).
That was the reason why in Acts 11, when the other Jewish believers who were not there asked him why he ate with gentiles, he did not refer them back to the Great Commission given in Matt 28. He referred back to what happened in Acts 10 instead.
For good reason, everyone who understood Jesus at Matt 28 understood that Jesus was not referring to preaching the gospel of the kingdom to the gentiles immediately, as stated in Matthew 10:5.
Unto the end means, death. We are eternally saved in life and shall find that out at our death.
The unrighteous in that passage are the unrepentant sinners that remain dead in their sins. The righteous are the repentant sinners, Christians.
Ahead of time? If you read Acts 11 you'll see Peter defended his actions in Acts 10.
The Gentiles Receive the Holy Spirit
Acts 10:44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell on[dt] all those who heard the message.[du] 45 The[dv] circumcised believers[dw] who had accompanied Peter were greatly astonished[dx] that[dy] the gift of the Holy Spirit[dz] had been poured out[ea] even on the Gentiles, 46 for they heard them speaking in tongues and praising[eb] God. Then Peter said, 47 “No one can withhold the water for these people to be baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did,[ec] can he?”[ed] 48 So he gave orders to have them baptized[ee] in the name of Jesus Christ.[ef] Then they asked him to stay for several days.
As far as lordship salvation and easy believism goes, salvation is only on this wise. If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the lord Jesus (confess that he is God almighty and sovereign over people places and things), and shalt believe (believe on, trust in) thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be s a v e d. This verse is simply stating that even though man is insufficient to save himself, if he will see God as the sovereign who humbled himself to become man and pay our sin debt, and trust him to do just that, he will save you. But it has to be 100 percent reliance upon the grace of God. Not I’m trusting Jesus 90 percent and the other 10 percent I’m trusting my repentance, commitment, baptism, etc. I must place my full weight upon Jesus and him alone for my right standing before God. Anything less is short of Gods grace.
Yes, as I said, he defended his actions in Acts 11, based on those gentiles speaking in tongues in the middle of his preaching, which indicated that the Holy Spirit has been poured out to them.
If Matthew 28 actually meant Jesus wanted the 11 to preach to gentiles right away, he could just defend his eating with the gentiles using that, but he did not, for the good reason as I have stated to you already.
None of the Jewish believers who followed Peter would have been astonished in Acts 10:45, for the same good reason stated.
Yes amen, the question we are discussing now is, was that also how James and the other apostles understood in the Acts time period?
acts is a transition period for the church from Christ to New Testament doctrine. The acts wasn’t a doctrinal book. It was a transitional period
Matthew 28 tells us Jesus told his 11 apostles go and make disciples of all nations. The circumcised believers of acts 10 were not on the mountain with Jesus when he gate the Great Commission to his 11 apostles.
The circumcised believers in Acts 10 would know of the Messiah prophecy being they were Jews prior to their conversion.
Therefore, when seeing the holy spirit fall upon the gentiles gathered in Acts 10 those circumcised believers would naturally be astonished because in Judaism the teaching's they'd have learned would pertain to Messiah of the Jews, not gentiles.
The Acts of the Apostles book is a continuation of the Book of Luke. It is the doctrine Jesus taught being carried forth. Hence, Acts (Actions) of the Apostles.
So if Peter was made by Jesus as the head of the church, you mean Peter could not have explained to the Jewish believers at Acts 11, that the resurrected Christ did tell them to reach to all nations in Matt 28?
You mean those believers would not have accepted that explanation in Acts 11?
I certainly agree with you. But as you can see from this thread, many Christians were not taught that.