Thank for your respons.
I don't know what exactly you believe on that teaching.
One of my friend believe no matter what you do after conversion, will not make you loose your salvation. So he steal money from his credit card, because he believe God die for his sin.
I am not expert in theology, but seem to me any teaching that encourage doing sin is not inline with the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Jesus want us to be like Him, not stealing or murder.
To me the teaching osas open the door to do sin.
I don't know what exactly you believe on that teaching.
One of my friend believe no matter what you do after conversion, will not make you loose your salvation. So he steal money from his credit card, because he believe God die for his sin.
I am not expert in theology, but seem to me any teaching that encourage doing sin is not inline with the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Jesus want us to be like Him, not stealing or murder.
To me the teaching osas open the door to do sin.
If we are not saved eternally, then Jesus mission to earth was a fraud. Jesus didn't say he came to give revocable salvation through God's revocable gift of grace. Those in Christ do not make a habit of sinning. If they do they are not in the covenant of grace.
Perhaps those you're encountering that teach you never have to ask forgiveness again for anything you do because you are forever saved from sin are the bad actors smearing the actual covenant of eternal salvation. Or, OSAS.
1 John 1 is written to believers, Christians.
5 Now[l] this is the gospel[m] message[n] we have heard from him[o] and announce to you: God is light, and in him there is no darkness at all.[p] 6 If we say we have fellowship with him and yet keep on walking[q] in the darkness, we are lying and not practicing[r] the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light as he himself is in the light, we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses[s] us from all sin.[t] 8 If we say we do not bear the guilt of sin,[u] we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 But if we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous,[v] forgiving[w] us our sins and cleansing[x] us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar and his word is not in us.
What is being spoken of and to in that passage is positional forgiveness within the church. Our sins as unredeemed sinners having repented and accepted Christ through faith are forever blotted out and no longer are held against us. However, that doesn't mean the Christian is perfect. We do miss the mark as pertains to God's expectation of righteousness of and for us. We trespass against ourselves when we do something our redeemed consciousness is aware displeases God. And we trespass against one another in the church.
These sins don't send us to hell as would have happened when we were in the world as sinners unrepentant.
They do mar the fellowship we have with one another though.
Think of a slight you may have committed against someone you care about. You know you did this. They do too. Next time you see them after having done that what is the atmosphere like between you? Tense? Emotional?
That's what we're discussing then about trespasses against one another and others for that matter.
Remember Jesus teaching believers the Lord's prayer? "And forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who is indebted to us" Luke 11 (indebted = sins. indebted to us = sins against us)
God's gift of grace is free and irrevocable. It is a matter of eternal salvation, not revocable temporary salvation contingent on your working to please God all the time or else back to the state of damnation for you. No, you are saved eternally,irrevocably. Because God said so! When God said so, don't let anyone try to convince you otherwise because they don't know more than God. Romans 11:29 For the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable.
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