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ChristineInCleveland

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Susanna said:
There are times when I’m thinking that there ought to be established a sane party someplace between the two utterly insane parties currently represented by Trump and Biden.
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Don't think Trump is "insane"... He's done a good job cleaning up the mess from the last administration, & up until the China virus he had this economy roaring back. Now it's still picking up steam again as long as no more job killing shutdowns. I'll put my confidence in Trump over Biden any day.
 
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ChristineInCleveland said:
Don't think Trump is "insane"... He's done a good job cleaning up the mess from the last administration, & up until the China virus he had this economy roaring back. Now it's still picking up steam again as long as no more job killing shutdowns. I'll put my confidence in Trump over Biden any day.
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The economy, apart from covid, was increasing at basically the same rate it had been under Obama when Trump took office. We had been recovering from the depression for some 7 years already.
 
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Just for the record. There’s a couple of loudmouths here supporting Trump like there’s no tomorrow and they are definitely not Americans. I wonder why🤔.
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I don't know who those people would be. I don't check the profile of everyone who is for or against Trump.

As to why people not citizens of America would be pro-Trump, likely because as America goes so goeth the world. Maybe they hope for Trump's re-election for the sake of their own country.
 
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We’re Americans! We will overcome! We won’t let no single candidate from the Republican Party or the Democratic Party demolish our country.
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Did we stop what happened those eight years under BHO? Or after the results from that first four years of BHO/Biden did we reelect BHO and Biden to do it again?
Is it a matter of letting them? We have riots going on right now, looting like you wouldn't believe, violence, in Philadelphia PA. Right now. Why?
Because a man who was bat chips crazy brought a knife to a gun fight with cops.
There it goes again. Less than a week now before the election.

Do we let that happen? Did we let Seattle and Portland happen? Did armed patriots enter in and shut that down when the failure in leadership there did nothing to stop it?

Did we do anything when Biden and HRC were found to have committed offenses while in office?

We don't stand up to a group of domestic terrorists setting our businesses and homes on fire.

When will we have enough and stop it?
 
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ChristineInCleveland

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posthuman said:
The economy, apart from covid, was increasing at basically the same rate it had been under Obama when Trump took office. We had been recovering from the depression for some 7 years already.
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Well if Biden gets in office, sure don't expect the economy will ever improve from that point forward....
 
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just a thought. Surely Trump will win because doesn't it say that in the last days the Trump-et will sound????
 
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Did we stop what happened those eight years under BHO? Or after the results from that first four years of BHO/Biden did we reelect BHO and Biden to do it again?
Is it a matter of letting them? We have riots going on right now, looting like you wouldn't believe, violence, in Philadelphia PA. Right now. Why?
Because a man who was bat chips crazy brought a knife to a gun fight with cops.
There it goes again. Less than a week now before the election.

Do we let that happen? Did we let Seattle and Portland happen? Did armed patriots enter in and shut that down when the failure in leadership there did nothing to stop it?

Did we do anything when Biden and HRC were found to have committed offenses while in office?

We don't stand up to a group of domestic terrorists setting our businesses and homes on fire.

When will we have enough and stop it?
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I hate to be a Debbie downer, but ain’t the looting and rioting something Trump ought to stop? It’s a bit odd to be finger pointing on a candidate that at this point is nowhere near to take office. What’s happening now is happening on Trumps’s watch.
 
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I hate to be a Debbie downer, but ain’t the looting and rioting something Trump ought to stop? It’s a bit odd to be finger pointing on a candidate that at this point is nowhere near to take office. What’s happening now is happening on Trumps’s watch.
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the national gaurd was sent out during the george floyd riots. they were taking a knee with the protesters , even dancing with them in atlanta.

trump sent out the federal police, threated to send in the army after these videos emerged , they riots wound down.

so, trump could send troops into the big cities?

do we really want that?
 
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the national gaurd was sent out during the george floyd riots. they were taking a knee with the protesters , even dancing with them in atlanta.

trump sent out the federal police, threated to send in the army after these videos emerged , they riots wound down.

so, trump could send troops into the big cities?

do we really want that?
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That’s not my point.

Many people here are anticipating looting, rioting and chaos in general if Biden gets to take office. We already have that under the current administration. If the election of Biden means chaos, it will just be more of what we already have.

I don’t think who’s president will solve our problems. They’re both all hat and no cattle.
 
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gb9

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That’s not my point.

Many people here are anticipating looting, rioting and chaos in general if Biden gets to take office. We already have that under the current administration. If the election of Biden means chaos, it will just be more of what we already have.

I don’t think who’s president will solve our problems. They’re both all hat and no cattle.
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i just explained this- other than sending in the military, what exactly is trump supposed to do??

when you have city cops standing down and letting rioters run wild, that is NOT the fault of a national leader.
 
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soggykitten

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Susanna said:
I hate to be a Debbie downer, but ain’t the looting and rioting something Trump ought to stop? It’s a bit odd to be finger pointing on a candidate that at this point is nowhere near to take office. What’s happening now is happening on Trumps’s watch.
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As much as you dislike Trump I don't think you have a problem being a Debbie Downer when putting the Philly riots at his feet.

Do you forget? The mayors of Seattle and Portland forbid Trump in his offer to quash the riots there. The DA of I believe it was Portland though that may be wrong, said he'd make arrests on any federal officials that entered to try to do so.
Also, the leadership elected to office in Philadelphia are responsible for keeping the public safe. And they can also request federal assistance.
Imagine if a president sent in federal troops every time there was a riot or upset in an American city. What type of government would we have then?
 
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Some are advocating sending in the National Guard with instructions to quell all the violent demonstrations. I recommend that they take a look at the riots that followed the Kent State massacre of the 1960s.
 
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Some are advocating sending in the National Guard with instructions to quell all the violent demonstrations. I recommend that they take a look at the riots that followed the Kent State massacre of the 1960s.
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They really should.

Being too hard on the protesters just gonna make the whole thing go nationwide.

Trump needs to realize that he’s the President of every American...rich, poor, black, white, conservative, liberal...even yankees from up north lol.
 
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soggykitten

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They really should.

Being too hard on the protesters just gonna make the whole thing go nationwide.

Trump needs to realize that he’s the President of every American...rich, poor, black, white, conservative, liberal...even yankees from up north lol.
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Even domestic terrorists in Seattle, Portland, and Philadelphia.
There is a difference between protesting and committing to violent rioting and looting.
Notice the pattern in Seattle, Portland, Philly?
Someone is shot by police. Peaceful protesters take to the streets. Then some outside force enters in and violence, murders, and looting erupt.

Peaceful protesters aren't the issue. Rioters, domestic terrorists, and looters are.
 
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This coming Tuesday when the landslide of all landslides occurs I expect the paid rioters to increase, I believe our President whom God raised up, is already ahead of it. We each have our own work to do as well, praying without ceasing for this election and our nation/world.
blessings
 
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posthuman said:
this country is doomed either way. read your Bible ;)
that's part of what's so sickening about Christians being swept up by worldly partisanship
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I disagree with a lot that you say about Trump (e.g. you said he's out of touch with reality, when he is spot on, moreso than any other leading politician). However, I agree with your statement above. I believe Trump winning the election will be more a danger to the Church than Trump losing. The Democrats are clearly evil through and through. Probably Biden is the best of the lot (that's why they he's their nomination for president), but the chap's mind is clearly gone. If the Democrats win, Christians know these are enemies and opposed to Christ and the Church.

However, Trump stands for a lot of good things. Some even now are saying that he is some sort of saviour. If Trump wins, I expect the good things to increase (e.g. arrests of the traitors and criminals who've been rigging the election, possibly even the end of abortion), and the people will likely love him even more. But only Christ can truly save, and there is none beside Him.
 
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mustaphadrink said:
If it is not Trump, watch out because the only purpose that Biden can serve is being the church's worst nightmare.
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Biden is like the Trojan horse. Outwardly, he appears to be a kind and helpful animal with a big smile (much like a horse). But inwardly, he is crawling with dirty, stinking, treachurous Greeks (the Democratic party).

Americans should do unto Biden as the Trojans should have done unto their unwanted horse. Put him out to pasture.
 
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However, Trump stands for a lot of good things.
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i appreciate that he made a 'SPACE FORCE'

but that's really just rebranding something that already existed.
i mean for example what do we imagine the X37B has been doing for the last 15 years, lol bbq?


IMO he will be remembered in history for 3 things:
  • trying to dismantle the constitutional separation of powers and move the presidency toward pseudo-fascist dictatorship
  • being the most blatant liar we've ever had in the white house, popularizing distrust in anything other than his own propaganda
  • moving the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem
 
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