When are we saved ?

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OIC1965 said:
Same thing as the rich young ruler

And Jesus said “ with man impossible, but with God all things are possible

Same thing as the folks in John 6. And Jesus said no one is able to come unless the Father draws them

Inability based on love of sin and unwillingness to come.
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If I really love my wife and children, I am unable to leave them. It doesnt mean it’s physically impossible, it means it is morally impossible and unthinkable, as long as my love is true and real.

Some things are impossible because it is not in our nature. But if something happens to affect that....
 
OIC1965 said:
Same thing as the rich young ruler

And Jesus said “ with man impossible, but with God all things are possible

Same thing as the folks in John 6. And Jesus said no one is able to come unless the Father draws them

Inability based on love of sin and unwillingness to come.
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Are you not reading an awful lot into '
with man impossible, but with God all things are possible?
 
OIC1965 said:
Same thing as the rich young ruler

And Jesus said “ with man impossible, but with God all things are possible

Same thing as the folks in John 6. And Jesus said no one is able to come unless the Father draws them

Inability based on love of sin and unwillingness to come.
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I'd say without God its impossible to have eternal life .
 
OIC1965 said:
Same thing as the rich young ruler

And Jesus said “ with man impossible, but with God all things are possible

Same thing as the folks in John 6. And Jesus said no one is able to come unless the Father draws them

Inability based on love of sin and unwillingness to come.
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I thought you were saying its based on God drawing, not there love of sin and unwillingness?
 
OIC1965 said:
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no man is able to come to me...unless the Father draws Him
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But you say the reason they don't come is because of sin ? which is it ? Surely your saying the reason they don't come is because the Father is not drawing that individual.
 
OIC1965 said:
What did Jesus say was impossible in Mark 10

What did He say they were not able to do in John 6?
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The whole point of Mark 10 starts with
15Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein

Then Jesus explains that you cannot enter by your own efforts . With man its impossible.
 
throughfaith said:
The whole point of Mark 10 starts with
15Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein

Then Jesus explains that you cannot enter by your own efforts . With man its impossible.
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And the same is true today. You think you believed all by your lonesome, not realizing that God drew you.
 
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