What do you think about the phrase: “Everyone has their demons?”

[SarahUmbreon]

Been thinking while driving, thought this might be interesting to discuss, cause most of us have probably heard:

“Everyone has their own personal demons to deal with”

Or

“Everyone has a dark side to them.”


I can honestly see how these statements can be true, for we are not perfect. We struggle with judging others, addictions, not loving, etc. as examples and that stuff I think can be considered “personal demons” or a “dark side”. It’s all part of the human condition for our minds to wander and go to dark places, for we live in a fallen world.

So what’s your take on these phrases? Would like to hear if anyone else has ever heard of these phrases ^_^

 

[Dino246]

I take such phrases as generalities. "Everyone has their demons" is a concise and pithy way of saying, "Everyone has a unique story, with some amount of pain, suffering, and disappointment, which have shaped who they are today." It certainly does not mean that every person is afflicted by actual demonic entities (and yes, I do believe there are such things). As human beings, we have the capability for evil, small or great, and will until we die. Only as Christians are we empowered to overcome the sinful nature and become increasingly conformed to Christ's nature.

 

[Runningman]

It's like when people say "It's time you face your demons." It is like they mean it is time to address their struggles. Like you said, that's probably things like addictions, anxieties, fears, worries. It's interesting because the Bible does say that things that give us a spirit of fear, or bring us into bondage, or cause us to worry are not from God. We're told to not worry, fear, or be mastered by anything.

In the secular world people refer to the "demons" in their life figuratively as things that are holding them back. This might have a lot to do with the influence of the Bible on the language of society as a whole. Even though teaching people what the Bible actually says about the demons in our lives is not always well received.

Now instead of demons being literal entities influencing human kind, they are annoyances that can be cured with a prescription medication. Once again the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.

 

[Lighthearted]

Been thinking while driving, thought this might be interesting to discuss, cause most of us have probably heard:

“Everyone has their own personal demons to deal with”

Or

“Everyone has a dark side to them.”


I can honestly see how these statements can be true, for we are not perfect. We struggle with judging others, addictions, not loving, etc. as examples and that stuff I think can be considered “personal demons” or a “dark side”. It’s all part of the human condition for our minds to wander and go to dark places, for we live in a fallen world.

So what’s your take on these phrases? Would like to hear if anyone else has ever heard of these phrases ^_^

Holy Spirit talks to you when you're driving too? That's where I hear Him the clearest.♥️

 

[true_believer]

Every person has their own "Goliaths" in their pysches, whether it be flaws or wounds that have faced, managed or overcome.

 

[SarahUmbreon]

Holy Spirit talks to you when you're driving too? That's where I hear Him the clearest.♥️

I guess maybe, you see the thought occurred because I got back into animation memes and I was listening to some Persona 4 music on the way home (Which for anyone familiar with videogames know that Persona has some sketchy stuff, but hear me out). So in most animation memes I see, it will show the character okay, before it switches over to them looking broken down, like lost their mind, if that makes sense. For Persona 4, a big theme of the game is confronting yourself, like literally because a character that is focused on in that chapter of the story, will come across “their dark side” and each time this happens, the character will deny the darkness and yell, “You are not me!”, and then the group of characters (Because it’s a RPG with a long story), must work together to save the character from their dark self, which is the boss battle of each stage. Once the boss battle is over, the character that must confront their darkness (Or in some cases worries/fears), they accept that part, and then the story moves along.

Yes I know Persona has questionable stuff, I will not defend it cause you do use demons to help win fights and it is very rooted in Japanese mythology and some other questionable stuff (There’s a reason why the games are Rated M), I got into it before I knew God, but for some reason, I’ve always really liked that idea, of how we have a dark self to confront, and wether we let the darkness win and consume, or accept it. This could easily relate to bible lessons, not saying darkness is good, but I think accepting the flaws of being human is important, we will never be perfect. People that think they are more likely to look down on others, which is toxic overall.

So you could say the Holy Spirit guided me to listen to that music and to get back into animation memes, for possibly sharing unique perspectives on CC, which I think is a good way to strengthen our need and knowledge in God.

 

[Fundamental]

Yes we all do and that is why Jesus said to deny the self and follow Him.
He did not just say it, He showed the way and by that one knows how to follow.
By doing His will (or trying to) I am revealed with all my darkness. It’s easier to deny Jesus then this world I guess.
In Him I know I am not worthy of the Kingdom, but somehow I hope to be sanctified through Him one day.

Our darkness is a blind spot without mirroring it to Jesus.

 

[Lynx]

Persona series of games... ah, where is J-T when we need him?

 

[Lighthearted]

I guess maybe, you see the thought occurred because I got back into animation memes and I was listening to some Persona 4 music on the way home (Which for anyone familiar with videogames know that Persona has some sketchy stuff, but hear me out). So in most animation memes I see, it will show the character okay, before it switches over to them looking broken down, like lost their mind, if that makes sense. For Persona 4, a big theme of the game is confronting yourself, like literally because a character that is focused on in that chapter of the story, will come across “their dark side” and each time this happens, the character will deny the darkness and yell, “You are not me!”, and then the group of characters (Because it’s a RPG with a long story), must work together to save the character from their dark self, which is the boss battle of each stage. Once the boss battle is over, the character that must confront their darkness (Or in some cases worries/fears), they accept that part, and then the story moves along.

Yes I know Persona has questionable stuff, I will not defend it cause you do use demons to help win fights and it is very rooted in Japanese mythology and some other questionable stuff (There’s a reason why the games are Rated M), I got into it before I knew God, but for some reason, I’ve always really liked that idea, of how we have a dark self to confront, and wether we let the darkness win and consume, or accept it. This could easily relate to bible lessons, not saying darkness is good, but I think accepting the flaws of being human is important, we will never be perfect. People that think they are more likely to look down on others, which is toxic overall.

So you could say the Holy Spirit guided me to listen to that music and to get back into animation memes, for possibly sharing unique perspectives on CC, which I think is a good way to strengthen our need and knowledge in God.

I have my opinion of those games and such, but I also know that the Lord chooses to work all things for His good.
I'm not here to judge you, as it is not my job. I would however, encourage you to dwell on things that are pure, righteous, and Holy. This is often hard to do when the devil uses the things of this world such as music, tv, books, video games, and media in general to get a foothold in our lives to cause turmoil. Although nothing can separate us from His love, satan can use these tools to create side roads that can interfere in our walk. I do think that many Christians struggle with this, as do I.

 

[SarahUmbreon]

I have my opinion of those games and such, but I also know that the Lord chooses to work all things for His good.
I'm not here to judge you, as it is not my job. I would however, encourage you to dwell on things that are pure, righteous, and Holy. This is often hard to do when the devil uses the things of this world such as music, tv, books, video games, and media in general to get a foothold in our lives to cause turmoil. I do think that many Christians struggle with this, as do I.

I haven’t played Persona in a long while, and I am struggling. Cause the artist/creative mind/nerd in me likes the gameplay, the characters, and the deep story of Persona games, but the Christian in me knows even though you play as the good guys, you are using demons (AKA Personas) to defeat evil.

I went to college for Videogames, I just recently gave up on that, because the videogame industry doesn’t care for a Christian mindset, plus even if Christians want Christian videogames, we have to be honest and the Bible is really hard to adapt into videogame form. Not saying it can be done, but the world is honestly not interested and the game wouldn’t sell well. I wanted to write stories/do concept art for videogames, but since of my stories had demons, monsters, or supernatural stuff, I don’t know what to do.

That’s why I have given up, and just want a full time job, I don’t care anymore.

 

[Lighthearted]

I haven’t played Persona in a long while, and I am struggling. Cause the artist/creative mind/nerd in me likes the gameplay, the characters, and the deep story of Persona games, but the Christian in me knows even though you play as the good guys, you are using demons (AKA Personas) to defeat evil.

I went to college for Videogames, I just recently gave up on that, because the videogame industry doesn’t care for a Christian mindset, plus even if Christians want Christian videogames, we have to be honest and the Bible is really hard to adapt into videogame form. Not saying it can be done, but the world is honestly not interested and the game wouldn’t sell well. I wanted to write stories/do concept art for videogames, but since of my stories had demons, monsters, or supernatural stuff, I don’t know what to do.

That’s why I have given up, and just want a full time job, I don’t care anymore.

I think there is a huge demand for Christian video games. It may not go over well with teens, but for grade school children, it would be a great way to teach them. I still have a second grader at home and have been searching for Biblical video games to enforce good ideas and morals with entertainment....but I can't find anything that engages her because it's non-existent. I emplore you to please pray about your decision. You know, Veggie Tales was an easy pick...and they have done well and are still popular. Hey, I still listen to Silly Songs. 😜

 

[SarahUmbreon]

I think there is a huge demand for Christian video games. It may not go over well with teens, but for grade school children, it would be a great way to teach them. I still have a second grader at home and have been searching for Biblical video games to enforce good ideas and morals with entertainment....but I can't find anything that engages her because it's non-existent. I emplore you to please pray about your decision. You know, Veggie Tales was an easy pick...and they have done well and are still popular. Hey, I still listen to Silly Songs. 😜

I get that, but I’m not interested in making games for grade schoolers, I want to tell STORIES, stories that make people feel emotions and deeply connected with them, and I know that’s the artist in me talking.

I know there is a market for game towards grade schoolers and Christians, but if I don’t have an interest, it’s going to be hard. I’ll pray about my decision, a huge inspiration to me lately has been the creator of “Five Nights at Freddie’s”, yes the games have scary stuff, but the guy who created the games, he is a Christian, and he has made Christian games, here’s an interview he did: https://geeksundergrace.com/gaming/developer-spotlight-scott-cawthon/

My most inspiration for getting game design was the game Cave Story, the guy created a game all by himself, it took him 5 years, but he did it, and an excellent game. I’m mostly a RPG and platform gamer, but RPGs have given so much amazing stories, and I see videogames being the future for storytelling.

 

[true_believer]

I think there is a huge demand for Christian video games. It may not go over well with teens, but for grade school children, it would be a great way to teach them. I still have a second grader at home and have been searching for Biblical video games to enforce good ideas and morals with entertainment....but I can't find anything that engages her because it's non-existent. I emplore you to please pray about your decision. You know, Veggie Tales was an easy pick...and they have done well and are still popular. Hey, I still listen to Silly Songs. 😜

Are there any Christian video games...that would be exciting or entertaining for adults?
*laughs*

 

[true_believer]

Been thinking while driving, thought this might be interesting to discuss, cause most of us have probably heard:

“Everyone has their own personal demons to deal with”

Or

“Everyone has a dark side to them.”


I can honestly see how these statements can be true, for we are not perfect. We struggle with judging others, addictions, not loving, etc. as examples and that stuff I think can be considered “personal demons” or a “dark side”. It’s all part of the human condition for our minds to wander and go to dark places, for we live in a fallen world.

So what’s your take on these phrases? Would like to hear if anyone else has ever heard of these phrases ^_^

To paraphrase a popular SEAL song..."God became the light on the dark side of me".

 

[SarahUmbreon]

Are there any Christian video games...that would be exciting or entertaining for adults?
*laughs*

Yeah, Christian Videogames have had it rough, I already talked about this in a different thread, here’s what I said:

Hooray, this is my kind of thread! :3

Anyway, I went to college for this stuff, to become a story-writer and art designer for videogames, because I believe there is soooo much potential in videogames to tell great stories. Like I have seen some great stories in RPGs, but I think it is a format to consider for storytelling, because the amount of different story possibilities is high, cause of all the different ways to design and create games. Like letting a story have full player control to determine how the story ends, or something more linear, or maybe even something in-between, to where choices could lead to different endings,but with gameplay leading the player to said choices, like "a fork in the path".

But for christian videogames, this seems to be the norm:

Either too preachy and gameplay gets boring:

(Warning video will have bad language, but gets the point across)

It seems the people that made the game...have never made a game:

I'm just also adding this video cause from what I can tell, it would be a interesting watch for everyone on here:

So yeah, christian videogames haven't had the best history, so I think it can only work in these two ways: For it to be a "Edutainment game", you know, a game a kid would play to learn about the bible, it is fun to play and not pandering, or the other way: It involves christian morale themes in a interesting way.

I can't remember the author, but I was watching a book review series on "Empress Theresa" (Infamous book on the internet, considered to be one of the worst books ever, if anyone is interested to hear about it, I can leave some YouTube links) and the guy reviewing the book said this christian fiction series where it's a detective and he goes through stuff, and the detective sometimes questions God like "Why did this happen?". I believe that can be a complex story for a videogame, I'd play it. Also, I gave up on writing because I didn't think most of my writing ideas were not christian, but I thought about it while driving home:

What if we had a game where we see the after effects of rapture? Like doesn't it say in the bible that those who accept God when the rapture has already happened, don't they get to go to heaven? I'm sorry if I'm wrong cause I'm only going on memory, but this was a story idea I came up with awhile back: "Hell took over earth, all humans were taken over, all heaven did was watch as it happened". I came up with this idea before knowing God and I know it doesn't sound the best, but I think it could be re-worked into a story about how somehow wasn't saved during rapture, but then seeing the effects of rapture, accepted God and made it to heaven. That could be such a thought provoking story.

I never thought I would be sharing one of my original writing ideas on CC, cause I've given up on writing, cause I want my writing to be christian, but couldn't figure out how to do it. I think this thread might help, thanks ^_^

Then I said my story ideas as well in the same thread:

I didn’t know about that “Left Behind game” till you mentioned it/the YouTube link I sent on the history of Christian videogames, that game looks legit awful, lol. But yeah I can see where you are coming from, to be honest most of my story ideas are more like setups that haven’t been built upon yet like: “School has a fighting tournament they hold after school, main character focus is on a group of kids with each one having different colored hair, plus they each have their own story (I was getting into fighting games and wanted to see if I could make a story...can you tell I used to be into anime? Lol), lots of my ideas are “people teleported to a new realm for a reason and must survive”, I had an idea of “After World War 3, the humans have left earth and have created a new earth: Neo Earth (Yes I’m awful at naming things): a completely metal sphere that can be seen from earth, like the moon can be seen, but all the time cause it has lights on it, one character learns the history he has been taught is a lie because they taught him that earth is no longer live-able and has no life. He somehow ends up on earth and sees Neo Earth from earth, letting the harsh truth take place”, and then I had an idea for this environment of a “Great Gatsby inspired steampunk setting, with the levels of the city showing wealth, the higher the better the city looks, with the highest level having a “futuristic look”. I actually finished one story, it is awful, wrote it before I went to college, it was my take on a Pokémon videogame, as in you know in the anime, they usually have a party of 3 people? Well what if there was a Pokémon videogame built around that idea? It would be like “having scripted battles” for some of the people in the group of 3, so you couldn’t be slacking on a team member.

But yeah, I understand how trying to do a game on end times might not be a good idea, especially since no one is supposed to know the end time. Maybe it could be “vague” (Like what MegaMan does with 21XX or 20XX) but even then I don’t think that would be good enough.

 

[Lighthearted]

Are there any Christian video games...that would be exciting or entertaining for adults?
*laughs*

Probably not for adults. 😁

 

[SarahUmbreon]

Persona series of games... ah, where is J-T when we need him?

Yeah, lol, if people think Pokemon is “Satanic”, that’s small stuff compared to what Atlus releases. Not saying they make Satanic stuff, but their “Shin Megami Tensei” games, it is very rooted in mythology, and even some biblical stories (Chracters of bible origin, like some of the angels or demons, not the humans, and definitely no Jesus or God, if I’m wrong if the game have biblical stuff, please correct me) for some of the monsters/demons they make into the games. So I’ve almost beat the original Persona 4 (Not Golden sadly, I have it, but at this point, I’m conflicted like I mentioned earlier), played a bit of Persona 3, a bit of Persona 5, got a good chunk into Devil Survivor 2: Record Breaker, downloaded the original Devil Survivor onto my 3DS, but I barely played it, played a bit of Persona Q: Shadow of Labyrinth, and I got stuck while playing Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga.

I got into this stuff before I knew God/when my faith foundation was still weak, I just only recently-ish realized my need to take my Christianity more seriously, but I don’t regret my time having experienced these, you can put that on me saying cause I spent my own money, but some of them, like Persona 4 and Devil Survivor 2, were legit amazing games I would recommend to anyone who likes RPGs or strategy games (Cause it’s a mix in Devil Survivor 2’s case). Plus, it showed me how you can be creative in games, cause most of these games were not typical RPGs, it showed me you can do RPGs in a “real world” like location, and great stories/funny moments, so I don’t regret that, I will take what I have seen to educate other Christians, if I hear them thinking of trying the games.

I was actually thinking about it, but I would love to hear an argument/explanation defending these games, I know I could probably do it, but I would want to replay them again cause I haven’t in years, and my PS2 isn’t currently hooked up, and that’s my only way to play Persona 4, Persona 3, and the Digital Devil Saga. Plus with Devil saga, I don’t even have the 2nd game in the series yet, but I probably never will, and that’s fine with me.

 

[SarahUmbreon]

I used google and found a website that looked at some of the games from a Christian perspective, here’s an example: https://www.christcenteredgamer.com/reviews/pc-mac/7494-persona-4-golden-pc

Here’s the website if people just want to check it out: https://www.christcenteredgamer.com/

I know it can be seen as bad to rely on sources for opinions, but I really agree with what they said, and they basically did a great and fair review, which surprised me.

 

[Fundamental]

Are there any Christian video games...that would be exciting or entertaining for adults?
*laughs*

 

[Lanolin]

Well if youve ever had demons cast out of you then you know what it means. I mean Jesus defintely was called on to cast them out. He would name them and let them know you cant hide anymore and demons defintely dont belong in Gods people.
Dark side is more of a new age term though, but again, in the Bible we are called to be salt and light, an not hide our lights under a bushel. God is the Father of lights and there is no shadow in his turning.


Not sure why you bring up the topic, but I speak from experience, you really dont want to be messing round with the occult or getting deep into anything with it. God has something better for you.

what fellowship has light with darkness? If you are under the yoke of something thats dragging you down, ask Jesus to break it and be free.


whatver it is, you need to confess it, fill yourself up with Gods word, and those demons wont return.