Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2

[Guojing]

1 Peter 1:1-2
Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Is there something in the Bible that makes you believe Jews and Gentiles even in the New Testament have different rules or doctrines? Because even if Peter is writing to Jews or John is writing to Jews, so what, these are Christian people still they are in Christ, so why does it matter? I thought there is no jew and gentile when it comes to salvation.
Are there any verses that say Jews have different set of instructions in the NT than Gentiles?

Do you believe there will still be a coming tribulation coming to the world, after the body of Christ is raptured?

If so, then it will be important to rightly divide the word of truth between Romans to Philemon, and the epistles written to Israel that were placed after those books by the Holy Spirit

If you don’t, then I Guess from your view, it won’t matter

 

[49]

I like how some state they are taking the moral high road (generally speaking on this forum) but still find a way to get their digs in..

I think @throughfaith shares some good insight.

Unfortunately, those digs come from all sides....

 

[OIC1965]

' Whom' defines ' foreknew ' . Gal 4 explains it
6¶And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
7Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
8¶Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
9But now , after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God , how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?

Ginosko and proginosko are not the same.

 

[OIC1965]

The Scripture says all people not all believers. One sin condemned all people; Jesus’ righteousness affords the OPPORTUNITY of salvation for all people.

Where do you see “opportunity” on Romans 5:18. The verse is contrasting condemnation and death in Adam and justification and life in Christ.

 

[OIC1965]

Go back a few verses in Rom 5 .

8But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
11And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

Verse 8 explains that Jesus died for sinners . So that's everyone without exception.

Verse 9 explains that ' much more ' than Jesus dying for everyone's sins ( without exception ) after we believed we were justified by his blood and we will never fall under his wrath now ( through him )

Verse 10 For if when we( Every sinner without exception) were enemies ,every one without exception was reconciled to God by the death of his Son . Much more because everyone without exception was reconciled they will be reconciled because of his life ( resurrection) . So if they believe the Gospel they will be saved by his life .

Verse 11 explains that even though everyone without exception was reconciled by his death , to be saved by his life they need to recieve the atonement.

The second clause is talking about justification. Only believers are justified.

 

[Duskey]

Where do you see “opportunity” on Romans 5:18. The verse is contrasting condemnation and death in Adam and justification and life in Christ.

Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men resulting in justification of life.

I’m sorry my friend, I don’t understand what you don’t understand. Everyone who believes in Jesus is justified, but not everyone believes in Him. Be that as it may, the opportunity to believe in Him and be justified exists.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Why doesn’t Paul ever state this to the body of Christ? John, Peter, Hebrews...

I did quote from Hebrews 13:20, written by Paul, and that speaks of the shed blood of Christ.

Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that Great Shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the Everlasting Covenant..

Please note the connection between that Great Shepherd and the blood which He shed to usher in the New (and Everlasting) Covenant. Next we see the words of Paul in Acts 20:28, where he says that Christ (who is God) purchased the CHURCH ( the Body of Christ which includes both Jews and Gentiles), with His blood.

Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the Church of God, which he hath purchased with His own blood.

 

[Guojing]

Why doesn’t Paul ever state this to the body of Christ? John, Peter, Hebrews...

I think the popularity of Psalms 23, in churches around the world, makes it unthinkable to many Christians that Paul never once refer to us as sheep, in the books of Romans to Philemon, even though the last point is true.

 

[John146]

I did quote from Hebrews 13:20, written by Paul, and that speaks of the shed blood of Christ.

Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that Great Shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the Everlasting Covenant..

Please note the connection between that Great Shepherd and the blood which He shed to usher in the New (and Everlasting) Covenant. Next we see the words of Paul in Acts 20:28, where he says that Christ (who is God) purchased the CHURCH ( the Body of Christ which includes both Jews and Gentiles), with His blood.

Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the Church of God, which he hath purchased with His own blood.

Are you positive Paul wrote Hebrews? It is obvious that whoever is the write, they are addressing Hebrews in the last days...Jews.

 

[throughfaith]

i will just say again, I can testify that indeed some people are chosen before they are even born. My testimony is long but I will say at the age of ten years old, I was thinking about what I wanted to be when I grew up, the first word that entered my head was priest. After that it felt like an electric current ran through me. From that moment onwards life was not the same. So yes, people are ordained and chosen before they were even born. Why it has taken 38 pages so far to debate that is beyond me.

I'm not questioning your testimony . But it doesn't mean you were chosen before you existed. From my perspective it means you believed the Gospel and God saved you .

 

[Truth7t7]

What's the covenant with the church ?

The Precious Blood Shed Upon Calvary, Is The Everlasting Covenant With His Church.

Hebrews 12:23-24KJV
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Hebrews 13:20KJV
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

 

[John146]

The Precious Blood Shed Upon Calvary, Is The Everlasting Covenant With His Church.

Hebrews 12:23-24KJV
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Hebrews 13:20KJV
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

When did God make a covenant with his church? The church did not begin until after the resurrection? Just curious, not trying to be argumentative.

 

[Truth7t7]

For salvation yes only one covenant
for isreal? No they were given a covenant apart from salvation which gentiles are not a part of and it is still valid. Even though no one will ever be saved eternally because if it
the church did not replace Israel in that covenant

We will disagree, there is one covenant between God and man presently, only (One)

The finished work on Calvary, God has no future covenant outside the salvation of mankind through the Precious Blood.

(Dual Covenant Theology) is a false teaching, promoted by Zionism and their future (Golden Age) where Jews rule the earth.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

We will disagree, there is one covenant between God and man presently, only (One)

The finished work on Calvary, God has no future covenant outside the salvation of mankind through the Precious Blood.

(Dual Covenant Theology) is a false teaching, promoted by Zionism and their future (Golden Age) where Jews rule the earth.

We will disagree
god made a covenant with Abraham and his descendents after him an Eternal
Covenant throughout all there generations

In Lev 26 he gave provisions for that covenant based on their obedience the final being he would remove them from their land and their enemies will control the land and their temple would be desolate! But even if that happens if they repent. God will remember his covenant with them and restore
this covenant has nothing to do with the cross or salvation so you have been misled.

There is only one covenant concerning salvation. We are in agreement

But replacement theology is false and makes god a god who will not keep his promises. If replacement theology is true. We have no hope Because like god broke his promise
To them there is nothing keeping him from breaking his promise to us

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The Precious Blood Shed Upon Calvary, Is The Everlasting Covenant With His Church.

Hebrews 12:23-24KJV
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Hebrews 13:20KJV
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

There are multiple Covenants in scripture

 

[49]

I'm not questioning your testimony . But it doesn't mean you were chosen before you existed. From my perspective it means you believed the Gospel and God saved you .

Key words...”from your perspective”.
People believe how they believe...why do you continue to tell everyone they are wrong? Are you God? Seriously, you are getting to be too much...from my perspective....

 

[Truth7t7]

When did God make a covenant with his church? The church did not begin until after the resurrection? Just curious, not trying to be argumentative.

God's Covenant With Man, Read It Again And Again.

John 3:16KJV
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

 

[Truth7t7]

We will disagree
god made a covenant with Abraham and his descendents after him an Eternal
Covenant throughout all there generations

In Lev 26 he gave provisions for that covenant based on their obedience the final being he would remove them from their land and their enemies will control the land and their temple would be desolate! But even if that happens if they repent. God will remember his covenant with them and restore
this covenant has nothing to do with the cross or salvation so you have been misled.

There is only one covenant concerning salvation. We are in agreement

But replacement theology is false and makes god a god who will not keep his promises. If replacement theology is true. We have no hope Because like god broke his promise
To them there is nothing keeping him from breaking his promise to us

Please Post the scripture with your claim of a separate covenant existing with man outside of the cross of Calvary, waiting?

God dosent have any covenant with man presently, outside of the shed blood on Calvary and salvation of man.

 

[Truth7t7]

There are multiple Covenants in scripture

Post scripture and all your claims of these covenants that exist currently with man on earth, waiting?

 

[John146]

God's Covenant With Man, Read It Again And Again.

John 3:16KJV
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:16 is not a covenant. It's a statement of fact. Look up the verses throughout the Bible with the word covenant. That's where one should begin if curious about covenants.