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These verses do not say or mean that we will be removed from the earth during God's wrath. Revelation 16:10-11 makes it clear the His wrath is directed against the ungodly and Revelation 12:14 says the faithful Christians will be kept in a place of safety, on earth.
Many scriptures tell us how the Lord will protect His own during all the must happen before He Returns. 1 Corinthians 10:13
Many scriptures tell us how the Lord will protect His own during all the must happen before He Returns. 1 Corinthians 10:13
Who is the nation of Israel to whom God makes a promise in Jeremiah 31?
Jesus gives us a very clear indication in the parable of the landowner:
Matthew 21:43 Therefore I say unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
We do not have to look too far to discover which nation, people group that is: it is the church, the church of Jesus Christ, made up of believing Jews and Gentiles, who are the seed of Abraham, the children of God, the real Israelites of the New Testament.
I Peter 2:9-10 writes to the church in these words: But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people ... which in times past were not a people, but are now the people of God.
Holy nation is the name given to Israel in Exodus 19:5-6. Peter now applies it to the church! The church is the holy nation, and since the church will never be destroyed, it is in her and not in the modern Jewish State of Israel, that the new Covenant of Jeremiah 31:31-34 is fulfilled. Titus 2:14 is also instructive: to the churches in Crete Paul attributes the title "peculiar people," a name taken from Exodus 19:5.
One more thing must be noticed in Jeremiah 31:31-34 The promise of the new Covenant is made to the house of Judah and the house of Israel. In this covenant with the house of Israel God will: put His law in their inward parts and write it in their hearts and will be their God and they shall be His people ... Moreover, God promises to the same house of Israel: I will forgive their iniquity and I will remember their sin no more. How is this new covenant promise fulfilled, and to whom? The answer is found in Hebrews 8:6-13. This Covenant cannot be with the House of Israel as a separate entity from the church of Jesus Christ. The church of Christ, which enjoys the knowledge of God and forgiveness of sins, is the house of Israel.
Are there, then, no promises to the political entity of the Jewish State of Israel? The answer is an unequivocal no.
Will Israel as a political entity ever rebuild her temple and worship God as she did in the Old Testament? That is impossible under today’s conditions, but even if they did build a temple in Jerusalem and institute a priesthood, offer sacrifices and celebrate the feasts, it will be just another sign of Jewish apostasy from God. If the sacrifices of the wicked were abominable to God in the Old Testament, Proverbs 15:8, 21:27, how much more abominable would the recommencing of animal sacrifices be in the future after the one, only sacrifice of the Son of God?
All the promises of God are in Christ. 2 Cor. 1:20 All the promises of God were made to Christ, as the Seed of Abraham. Galatians 3:14-16 Therefore, there can be no promise of any kind for any unbeliever outside of Jesus Christ.
The calling of the Jew, as the calling of the Gentile, is to repent and believe in Jesus Christ and join the church of Jew and Gentile, male and female, bond and free, where there is no difference, and as many as walk according to this rule, peace be upon them and mercy!" For they are the [Christian] Israel of God! Galatians 3:26-29
Jesus gives us a very clear indication in the parable of the landowner:
Matthew 21:43 Therefore I say unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
We do not have to look too far to discover which nation, people group that is: it is the church, the church of Jesus Christ, made up of believing Jews and Gentiles, who are the seed of Abraham, the children of God, the real Israelites of the New Testament.
I Peter 2:9-10 writes to the church in these words: But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people ... which in times past were not a people, but are now the people of God.
Holy nation is the name given to Israel in Exodus 19:5-6. Peter now applies it to the church! The church is the holy nation, and since the church will never be destroyed, it is in her and not in the modern Jewish State of Israel, that the new Covenant of Jeremiah 31:31-34 is fulfilled. Titus 2:14 is also instructive: to the churches in Crete Paul attributes the title "peculiar people," a name taken from Exodus 19:5.
One more thing must be noticed in Jeremiah 31:31-34 The promise of the new Covenant is made to the house of Judah and the house of Israel. In this covenant with the house of Israel God will: put His law in their inward parts and write it in their hearts and will be their God and they shall be His people ... Moreover, God promises to the same house of Israel: I will forgive their iniquity and I will remember their sin no more. How is this new covenant promise fulfilled, and to whom? The answer is found in Hebrews 8:6-13. This Covenant cannot be with the House of Israel as a separate entity from the church of Jesus Christ. The church of Christ, which enjoys the knowledge of God and forgiveness of sins, is the house of Israel.
Are there, then, no promises to the political entity of the Jewish State of Israel? The answer is an unequivocal no.
Will Israel as a political entity ever rebuild her temple and worship God as she did in the Old Testament? That is impossible under today’s conditions, but even if they did build a temple in Jerusalem and institute a priesthood, offer sacrifices and celebrate the feasts, it will be just another sign of Jewish apostasy from God. If the sacrifices of the wicked were abominable to God in the Old Testament, Proverbs 15:8, 21:27, how much more abominable would the recommencing of animal sacrifices be in the future after the one, only sacrifice of the Son of God?
All the promises of God are in Christ. 2 Cor. 1:20 All the promises of God were made to Christ, as the Seed of Abraham. Galatians 3:14-16 Therefore, there can be no promise of any kind for any unbeliever outside of Jesus Christ.
The calling of the Jew, as the calling of the Gentile, is to repent and believe in Jesus Christ and join the church of Jew and Gentile, male and female, bond and free, where there is no difference, and as many as walk according to this rule, peace be upon them and mercy!" For they are the [Christian] Israel of God! Galatians 3:26-29
Exodus 12:48-49, “And when a stranger sojourns with you and shall perform the Pĕsaḥ to יהוה, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and perform it, and he shall be as a native of the land. But let no uncircumcised eat of it. “There is one Torah for the native-born and for the stranger who sojourns among you.”
Provide then, the scriptures that say the Lord will take His people to heaven.
We know that our citizenship is recorded there, we know our rewards are kept there, and we also know that people will believe fables and false teachings.
Revelation 13:9-10 You have ears; so hear this: Whoever is to be imprisoned, to prison they shall go. Whoever is to be killed, to the sword they shall go. This calls for the endurance and the faithfulness of God's people.
There is no 'beam me up Scotty', that idea is science fiction and believing it will really happen is gross deception.
We know that our citizenship is recorded there, we know our rewards are kept there, and we also know that people will believe fables and false teachings.
Revelation 13:9-10 You have ears; so hear this: Whoever is to be imprisoned, to prison they shall go. Whoever is to be killed, to the sword they shall go. This calls for the endurance and the faithfulness of God's people.
There is no 'beam me up Scotty', that idea is science fiction and believing it will really happen is gross deception.
The trinity doctrine is partly correct, but many scriptures make it clear that God the Father is the superior Being. 1 Corinthians 15:24
As there is no scripture that says there will be a general 'rapture' of the Church to heaven, that doctrine is false.
If people simply cannot disbelieve the 'rapture' theory, then at least know there is an alternative for all the faithful Christians. It is the Lord's protection for them, during all that must happen before Jesus Returns. Psalms 91, 1 Corinthians 10:13, +
As there is no scripture that says there will be a general 'rapture' of the Church to heaven, that doctrine is false.
If people simply cannot disbelieve the 'rapture' theory, then at least know there is an alternative for all the faithful Christians. It is the Lord's protection for them, during all that must happen before Jesus Returns. Psalms 91, 1 Corinthians 10:13, +
Well, I am not a dispensationalist.
Israel also isn't Jesus' church, but if church is the definition of a called out assembly/congregation.. and in the Old Testament Israel were defined as a church in the wilderness.. then I think it's safe to call them in the old testament as a church.
Not Jesus' New Testament church, but a called out assembly nonetheless.
A New Testament church though is a different entity altogether.. as a called out assembly of believers with Jesus as the Head under the New Covenant, carrying out the great commission.
What I think the difference here is.. you are calling all redeemed 'the church'.. where I would call all redeemed.. part of the Family of God.. but not 'the church'.
It's not Peter doing the writing .The Holy Spirit's message has nothing to do with the corrupted flesh of mankind as if somehow we did wrestles against flesh and blood nation against nation or were supported by it rather that the unseen spirit of the matter.
Jesus said of his own flesh it profits for nothing. Its the Spirit that can quicken our born again soul.
We are to know no man after the flesh and even tough some did know Jesus after the flesh that opportunity is long gone.
2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
Jesus said of his own flesh it profits for nothing. Its the Spirit that can quicken our born again soul.
We are to know no man after the flesh and even tough some did know Jesus after the flesh that opportunity is long gone.
2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
I like the stand that you take. The inspired scriptures were not written to the natural man, who cannot discern the things of the Spirit, before he has been regenerated, telling him how to get saved eternally, but it is written to the regenerated children of God, informing them that they have an eternal inheritance, and instructing them as to how he wants them to live their lives as they sojourn here on earth.
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Peter wrote to the scattered people of God, those obedient to Jesus and those with the faith in our God and Savior, Jesus Christ.
The ethnic House of Judah is no longer a special people. They fulfilled their role with the arrival of the Seed of Abraham; Jesus.
The Jews have re-established themselves in a small part of the holy Land. Jesus prophesied this would happen; Matthew 24:32 But Jesus said who they belong to, Revelation 2:9b, and are plainly not the People God will have in His holy Land.
Many prophesies tell of their virtual demise in the soon to happen Day of the Lord's fiery wrath. Amos 2:4-, Isaiah 22:1-14, Ezekiel 21:1-7
Peter wrote to the scattered people of God, those obedient to Jesus and those with the faith in our God and Savior, Jesus Christ.
The ethnic House of Judah is no longer a special people. They fulfilled their role with the arrival of the Seed of Abraham; Jesus.
The Jews have re-established themselves in a small part of the holy Land. Jesus prophesied this would happen; Matthew 24:32 But Jesus said who they belong to, Revelation 2:9b, and are plainly not the People God will have in His holy Land.
Many prophesies tell of their virtual demise in the soon to happen Day of the Lord's fiery wrath. Amos 2:4-, Isaiah 22:1-14, Ezekiel 21:1-7
I know what you mean. The invisible, universal church of all redeemed is the predominant view.. with the local visible church within that. What I have learned though-- is that all redeemed should be called part of the Family of God.. because a church is something that is visible and assembles.
Most outer wheel-- Kingdom of God
Wheel within that-- Family of God
Wheel within that-- The institution of New Testament churches
The universal, invisible church looks like an 'unassembled assembly' whereas.. the Family of God.. that's related by being redeemed but the members aren't all assembled together.
Most outer wheel-- Kingdom of God
Wheel within that-- Family of God
Wheel within that-- The institution of New Testament churches
The universal, invisible church looks like an 'unassembled assembly' whereas.. the Family of God.. that's related by being redeemed but the members aren't all assembled together.