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The Gospel is truth about why Jesus died ( For their sins ) ' the goodness of God leads to a change of mind ( repentance) The Holy Spirit reproves the world of Unbelief in Jesus . The Gospel is ' good news ' to a sinner who recognises he is lost and without hope. We preach a message of ' reconciliation. 2 cor 5 .19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
We tell sinners " today is the day of salvation ' , ' be reconciled to God .
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
We tell sinners " today is the day of salvation ' , ' be reconciled to God .
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maybe Lazarus rose from the dead of his own initiative, and that's why Christ waited till the 4th day, so Lazarus would spend time thinking about what he'd done, waiting in the tomb for Christ to call to him & tell him to come forth . . ?
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hence your argument falls flat,
well to anyone but those who believe like you
Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
That is how we come to salvation, through faith, belief, in the gospel. Sadly, many teachers think verse 9 tells us we do not have to do anything more once we're saved. Just believe. They insist works has nothing to do with our salvation and this is untrue.
Good deeds are part of our salvation process.
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. Ephesians 2:10 (ESV)
Revelation 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay each one for what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”
That is how we come to salvation, through faith, belief, in the gospel. Sadly, many teachers think verse 9 tells us we do not have to do anything more once we're saved. Just believe. They insist works has nothing to do with our salvation and this is untrue.
Good deeds are part of our salvation process.
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. Ephesians 2:10 (ESV)
Revelation 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay each one for what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”
Hello again EleventhHour, I agree with you (though there is more to "orthodox Christianity" than sanctification, as I'm sure you are aware).
Both Protestant systematic theologies, Arminianism and Calvinism, also agree with what you just said, so if you don't mind elaborating a bit, please help me understand the point you are making.
Thanks
~Deut
Both Protestant systematic theologies, Arminianism and Calvinism, also agree with what you just said, so if you don't mind elaborating a bit, please help me understand the point you are making.
Thanks
~Deut
You gotta give me the verse though ? I know it sounds as if it should say that somewhere but we shouldn't go on a hunch that its the case . If there's a verse i.ll happily look at it ?
Reproving the world of the sin of not Believing in Jesus ,yes .
7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
Reproving the world of the sin of not Believing in Jesus ,yes .
7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
Hey come on ,where talking about salvation here not the unfathomable nature of God which we have some ideas but its dim to say the least . if we were to stop where the bible stops we would maybe stop at What is written about how we are saved . And so far as I can see its in those verses given so far . I'm happy to be corrected with some other verses . But I'm careful to not want to go with what ' sounds right ' or ' is in keeping with such and such ..that is a bit slippery.
the analogous body in question does not have "life" according to God's definition of "life" -- they have only an existence of death.
the mind in question does not have "understanding" according to God's definition of "understanding" -- they have only darkness and ignorance and vanity & futility.
this is how the Bible speaks. i am fine with no one apart from scripture agreeing with me; it's kinda 'story of my life' bro
the mind in question does not have "understanding" according to God's definition of "understanding" -- they have only darkness and ignorance and vanity & futility.
this is how the Bible speaks. i am fine with no one apart from scripture agreeing with me; it's kinda 'story of my life' bro
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the analogous body in question does not have "life" according to God's definition of "life" -- they have only an existence of death.
the mind in question does not have "understanding" according to God's definition of "understanding" -- they have only darkness and ignorance and vanity & futility.
this is how the Bible speaks. i am fine with no one apart from scripture agreeing with me; it's kinda 'story of my life' bro
the mind in question does not have "understanding" according to God's definition of "understanding" -- they have only darkness and ignorance and vanity & futility.
this is how the Bible speaks. i am fine with no one apart from scripture agreeing with me; it's kinda 'story of my life' bro
i could before I was justified,
hence they are not the same
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Which sin ? All I have so far is John 16.8and 9? And a hold load of sermons which just quote verse 8 without verse 9 . The message is that Jesus has already Died for their sins . that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. What is Paramount is Their Only access to the grace is to RECIEVE Jesus ( rom 5.2By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.) So the Comforter is going straight to the only problem that remains for them . UNBELIEF . Not because Jesus hasn't died for the sin of Unbelief, but because ' Belief ' is the only access to the grace ( Eph 2.8.9)Through faith . 1 cor 1.21