Chosen by God - A study in Election
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"But we ought always to thank God for you, brothers loved by the Lord, because from the beginning God chose you to be saved through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth. He called you to this through our gospel, that you might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ" (2Thessalonians 2:13-14).
Okay so that's what the Bible says. But YOU say that unsaved fallen sinners choose God!
Did I get that right?
All I am asking for is one single solitary scripture that says that men chose God. Just one. Similar to 2 Thessalonians 2:13........BUT REVERSED! OK? Please throw me a bone here will you?
Okay so that's what the Bible says. But YOU say that unsaved fallen sinners choose God!
Did I get that right?
All I am asking for is one single solitary scripture that says that men chose God. Just one. Similar to 2 Thessalonians 2:13........BUT REVERSED! OK? Please throw me a bone here will you?
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Translation: you got me beat but I will not admit it.
And it is entirely plausible that you have the same problem that he had.
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No you have not....all you have done is quote a few scriptures out of context, been dishonest with the definitions of words, skewed the truth and peddled the errors of a 15th century ex Catholic as scripture.......you have presented no biblical truth and you have swept under the table every scripture in context that contradicts your calvinistic blather!
Choose you this day whom you will serve.....it has always been about choice!!
Choose you this day whom you will serve.....it has always been about choice!!
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A child who was chosen by God has no choice,because they were chose,you seem to have great difficulty in understanding that,He knew we would receive Him without us ever thinking about it,because he knew us from the beginning.
No cult as you keep accusing the brethren of....its very easy to understand.
I became a born again because I was chosen and drawn......without ever reading the bible.....
Faith comes by hearing,the child hears the Father,when He draws them,His Spirit testifies with their spirit....it’s a reunion with the Father and His Child.....
A wonderful most powerful reunion at that....no Doudt whatsoever.
My testimony.
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Once again dc...no explanation,...I am not God...I have no power....only to speak what the Holy Spirit asks me to speak.
That is my belief and what ever God asks me to speak...it will be spoken,until then I remain silent.
As He has shown me many times.....I can do nothing without the Holy Spirit......He has the power,I have zero/nada.
Therefore I am called to stay humble before the Lord...He is my master/ Father and my teacher.
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Sorry,I have no idea what you are saying,when you say “I am so up on Calvin’s theology “
I have never heard of him,I had to look him up.
All that I have learnt is from scripture,being led through it by the Holy Spirit,I must rely on Him solely.
I have stopped blathering,trying to understand in my own strength......I can’t,therefore I must wait on God....then I will speak,what he is telling me to say or quote His word.
That is what I believe he has shown me.
Also,I am never ever to deny how I was saved....God chose,drew and saved me,I did nada/ zero.....my revelation was very personal,in fact it was perfect,but then it would be.
It Came From God.......
We were already in Him,before we were born....then in His perfect timing and will....He quickened our Spirit,made us alive in Christ,spiritually alive...
After all God knows exactly what He is doing....He knew us before we were born....therefore it was His will that I was saved....
He was watching over me as a non believer,drawing me to Him.....I see that all now in retrospect..my testimony.
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For precisely the same reasons that God chose Jacob over Esau.
Rom 9:10-13
And not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man,even by our father Isaac (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), it was said to her,“The older shall serve the younger.” As it is written, “Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.”
This little vignette meshes perfectly within the epic saga of God's elective purposes, its breathtaking breadth and scope spanning all of the Bible and all of the ages.
Yes it's there, it's real, it's unavoidable it's unassailable.
Rom 9:10-13
And not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man,even by our father Isaac (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), it was said to her,“The older shall serve the younger.” As it is written, “Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.”
This little vignette meshes perfectly within the epic saga of God's elective purposes, its breathtaking breadth and scope spanning all of the Bible and all of the ages.
Yes it's there, it's real, it's unavoidable it's unassailable.
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