Bible Corruptions

[Dino246]

If you reply, be sure to answer each of these questions by putting your answers in writing so we can both clearly see what a biased contridictory remark and accusation you have just made:

1. What is the title and topic of this thread?
2. Which post did @mustaphadrink quote?
3. What remarks did @mustaphadrink make about "KJV devotees"?
4. What was the theme of @mustaphadrink 's post?

My response: Of course it was an attack on the King James Bible with a slur against Christians that uphold and defend the King James Bible as the inerrant and infallible written Word of God.

Yelling isn't going to get you what you want. You come across as though you're about twelve years old; adept enough to form a coherent flow of thought, but demonstrating far too much emotion. Your questions are silly. People can read for themselves what he wrote. I carefully re-read Mustapha's post; nothing in there is an attack on the KJV.

I have concluded a most thorough and extensive research, without relying upon James White's brainwashing book, and have the proof evidence to back up my statements. Far more than you obviously have. My remarks in defense of Gail Riplinger are solid. She is a godly Christian woman that has been grossly slandered by willingly ignorant deceivers. There is a passage in 2Timothy about slanderers that masquerade as Christians. Those are the type of people that have slandered both Jack Chick and Gail Riplinger.

It's rather pathetic that you call a book you clearly haven't read, "brainwashing". Such behaviour doesn't say anything good about your character.

Yes, it is a damnable heresy to defame The Holy Bible that God gave to mankind, only to reproduce others where they have added to and taken away from the written words to adversly affect and change entire doctrines. If you did more research, rather than rely on what some man wrote in some book, you would understand that.

Yawn. Get a real argument. The Bible is what God gave to mankind; the KJV is a product of the Anglican Church.

Did you select that quote because you thought that I wouldn't have the proof to back up what I stated? You are in no postition to say my remarks are irrelevant. You are only parroting what you have heard or read in some book.

Says the guy parroting what he may have heard or read in some book.

I can post links to multiple threads of other boards where other people, that are proven heretics, do the very same thing, citing the same sources that you do, including James White's book.. Like I said, this ain't my frist rodeo. If you think that you are in a position to say that my remarks are irrelevant, then you should back up your accusations with evidence to prove me wrong

First demonstrate that the statement I called "irrelevant" was actually relevant to Mustapha's post, to which you were replying.

but not with copy and paste from Jame's White's book. Unlike you, I can prove my position, as I declared the intentions of in the post that you selectively quoted from.

Again, you sound like you're about twelve.

Did you bother to even have a look at the evidence that I had already posted on the linked thread? There's a lot more that goes with that.

Since you have refused to read the evidence I have noted, you are in no position to question whether I read the evidence you noted. Get some integrity.

 

[J-T]

Yelling isn't going to get you what you want. You come across as though you're about twelve years old; adept enough to form a coherent flow of thought, but demonstrating far too much emotion. Your questions are silly. People can read for themselves what he wrote. I carefully re-read Mustapha's post; nothing in there is an attack on the KJV. It's rather pathetic that you call a book you clearly haven't read, "brainwashing". Such behaviour doesn't say anything good about your character. Yawn. Get a real argument. The Bible is what God gave to mankind; the KJV is a product of the Anglican Church. Says the guy parroting what he may have heard or read in some book. First demonstrate that the statement I called "irrelevant" was actually relevant to Mustapha's post, to which you were replying. Again, you sound like you're about twelve.Since you have refused to read the evidence I have noted, you are in no position to question whether I read the evidence you noted. Get some integrity.

There is nothing in your post of any substance toward the discussion. The questions that I asked were legitimate, and I do not buy for a minute that you lack reading comprehension skills. It is obvious why you have denied the truth for a second time. Moreover, you should have learned by now that low grade insults are only a facade to mask the fact that you know better, yet you would go a step further to challenge my integrity? Do you remember the question that I asked you the last time you played this little game? Would you like a reminder?

 

[mustaphadrink]

I am sorry J-T but you turn me off because you are so belligerent and angry so you should not post whilst you are in that state of mind.

Note what the scriptures say. Colossians 4:6 Let your word be always with grace, having been seasoned with salt, to know how you ought to answer each one. Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

We need to be aware that there are times when we are in the right frame of mind to post and there are times when we are not in the right frame of mind to post. When it is the second, best to keep our thoughts to ourselves until we can speak with grace. And I am talking to myself here as well as you.

And please note that you have no authority at all if you are speaking from anger and belligerency.

 

[mustaphadrink]

This is not the first time that I have read or listened to a testimonial aimed against the inerrancy and infalliblity of the King James Bible. Over the years, I have encountered a large number of the false prophet group Jehovah's Witnesses testify against the King James Bible in favor of their re-written New World Translation, as well as those of the false prophet group Seventh Day Adventists that also have their own re-written Clear Word Bible. Each of these two groups also preach "another Jesus", "another gospel", with "another spirit" which is the spirit of Antichrist just as their Mother, the Roman Catholic Church whose "father" of their "another Jesus" is none other than Lucifer. (Read 2Corinthians 11 KJB) I should also mentioned that I also have experience with Muslims that also have their own Gnostic re-written Bible better known as the Quran. The Muslims also preach and teach "another Jesus", "another gospel", with "another spirit" that is the spirit of Antichrist a.k.a. the spirit of error a.k.a. the spirit of inquity just as their aforementioned counterparts.

The Roman Catholic Church produced the Revised Standard Version, just as they have all of the other versions. This is a subject that we can unpack, even using excellent work from David Daniels, who took over ChickTracts after the passing of Jack Chick. Jack Chick was a godly Christian man that was and still is one of the most slandered Christians in the world, and that is made evident by countless numbers of websites found on the Internet. Gail Riplinger is a godly Christian woman that is also among the most slandered by false teachers that have and still are campaigning against the King James Bible in favor of the Roman Catholic Gnostic Perversions. It will be one of my endeavors to share their videos here for the benefit of anyone that has the love for truth.

In the meantime, by the grace of God, I have began the process of exposing those behind the Occult agenda against the King James Bible >>>> HERE <<<< and soon, greater evidence to prove beyond any doubt will be added to drive the nail into the coffin of the great damnable heresy against the inerrancy and infallibily of the King James Bible that has plagued so many Semenaries and Churches, of which has led to the growing famine for the hearing of the words of The Lord.

I will testify here that I have spoken with many members of the Illuminati and Freemason Lodges, which are also rooted out of the Vatican, that are of the Gnostic Witches that are responsible for the production of the s0-called "Modern Translations" of the Bible. There is one that comes to mind that used the N.I.V. with the parallel to the Latin Vulgate to blasphemously teach "another Jesus" that is Lucifer. This is just one example of how they will use the "Modern Translations" to afirm the Antichrist that will be possessed by Satan who is Lucifer the Devil.

On the subject of "healing"; I have read the fullness of the King James Bible, and in each instance where there was divine healing by The Lord Jesus Christ, the healings were instantaneous. The same is true with the healings that He did through His chosen Apostles. Futhermore, in all of the passages of the Bible, there are no instances of silly semantics where any said something to the effect "I do not pray" then to pause to look for puzzled expressions on anyone's faces before God's selected Prophets and chosen Apostles took any action to do anything. Moreover, there was no waiting for 3 weeks, let alone a day for healing. True miracles are wrought by God, and by God alone. That said, I am firmly convinced that the so-call faith healers today are nothing more than gainsayers that can go into a hospital to cure people of cancer, grow limbs, give sight to the blind, or any other diseases including Covid-19. Benny Hinn is one that comes to mind that is not only a gainsaying false prophet and false teacher, but is also proven to preach "another Jesus", as he did when he presented an "invisible Jesus" on stage as he, along with many other false Pastors put on a show of false miracles. Benny Hinn is also guilty of preaching "another gospel" via the false prosperity gospel, as well as demonstrating that he also has the spirit of Antichrist as he performed blasphemy of "throwing" what he falsely called "the Holy Spirit" onto a crowd of people, many of which went into a laughing frenzy, while others began to bark like dogs. That is nothing like the genuine miracle that The Lord Jesus Christ wrought on the day of the Biblical Pentecost, and those that received the genuine gifts of the Spirit did not begin to laugh in hysteria and bark like dogs, and so forth, but instead preached the REAL GOSPEL to men in other languages.

Once again your anger shows what a big chip you have on your shoulder and don't let anyone disagree with you or else. Most people in case you did not know do not respond to such a belligerent attitude which in your case tells us that you are right and everyone else is wrong. A person who believes like you that you are so perfect is standing on dangerous ground because it is known as pride and as we know pride ALWAYS goes before a fall.

I don't mind what you choose to believe but I do mind you telling us we are a load of schmucks because we do not believe what you do. If you want to contradict what others say, you are most welcome to do so but do so in a gracious manner because the way you talk to us at the moment you probably have an audience of one.

 

[J-T]

I am sorry J-T but you turn me off because you are so belligerent and angry so you should not post whilst you are in that state of mind.

Note what the scriptures say. Colossians 4:6 Let your word be always with grace, having been seasoned with salt, to know how you ought to answer each one. Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

We need to be aware that there are times when we are in the right frame of mind to post and there are times when we are not in the right frame of mind to post. When it is the second, best to keep our thoughts to ourselves until we can speak with grace. And I am talking to myself here as well as you.

And please note that you have no authority at all if you are speaking from anger and belligerency.

To suggest that I am angry would be error. I am far from being angry, and therefore belligerent is not a proper to describe me either. I was not angry when I wrote my posts. I spoke the plain truth, and there was nothing corrupt that came from my mouth. Did that make you angry? You apparently do not like what I had to say, but if you would take the time to address the issues, rather than attack my person by falsely accusing me of being angry, and putting forth corrupt communication, instead of avoiding the issues, perhaps we could engage a conversation that pertains to the subject of this thread.

Once again your anger shows what a big chip you have on your shoulder and don't let anyone disagree with you or else. Most people in case you did not know do not respond to such a belligerent attitude which in your case tells us that you are right and everyone else is wrong. A person who believes like you that you are so perfect is standing on dangerous ground because it is known as pride and as we know pride ALWAYS goes before a fall.

I don't mind what you choose to believe but I do mind you telling us we are a load of schmucks because we do not believe what you do. If you want to contradict what others say, you are most welcome to do so but do so in a gracious manner because the way you talk to us at the moment you probably have an audience of one.

The Lord Jesus Christ gave the command that we are to speak truth, each one of us, with our neighbor. Do you know where that verse is in the Bible? Pride certainly does go before a fall, and it has been my experience that false teachers that campaign against the King James Bible are full of pride, as also are their counterparts, the Jehovah's Witnesses, who have been heavily campaigning against the King James Bible with the presentation of their New World Translation. Furthermore, the Roman Catholics burned thousands of King James Bibles in the streets of New York. I forget the exact year, but it was sometime during the 1880's or 1890's or thereabout, notwithstanding that much time had passed since they had murdered thousands of Christians, even burning many of them at the stake for owning a Bible. Do you know the true history of those events?

During the time of working on gathering and putting together a vast archive of evidence pertaining to the conspiratorial Occult agenda against the King James Bible, I had learned a great deal of information of how the Jesuits-Illuminati-Freemasons have infiltrated the Christian Denominations, and usurped key authoritative positions, even within the SBC after the Civil War, serving both a President of the SBC, as well as President of the First Baptist Seminary. Furthermore, during the process of investigation into the Roman Catholic Church, I had also discovered that the Knight Templars do in fact worship Satan, and that all of these people truly all work together as a cohesive team, against the Saints of God, and His Church. The Masons have been in control of Seminaries for a very long time now, and I also have real time evidence of their employment as Seminary Professors, not in the R.C.C. mind you, but in our Christian Seminaries.

While there is much more to share about those findings, I will transition to what I have encountered during the last few years since having already concluded the investigation into the R.C.C., Vatican, Illuminati, Freemasons, and the Rothschilds. What I discovered is that many of the Christian Forums across the Internet have become overrun with Masons. Some masons are out in the open, while others did their work with "apologetics" against the King James Bible in disguise, hiding the fact that they are masons; of which led to yet another investigation into the depth of their infiltration and involvement to form a Coup d'état on several Christian Forums where they have set up and established strong holds, where they have been working very heavily on this propaganda against the King James Bible for the last 20 years. During the course of that time, I saw where they had striven to shipwreck many people's faith, while they also mocked and ridiculed the Saints, and banned anyone that challenged them and got in their way. I also witnessed the edits and deletions of any posts that contained any truth that readily exposed the deception. None of this is "normal", but it has become the new normal as so many are proven to be beguiled away from trusting and believing the inerrancy and infallibility of the King James Bible.

In the meantime, I had visited numerous Churches, most of which had become overrun with Freemasons filling the entire Church wall to wall, while others had perhaps anywhere from one, three, or more. The Pastors of those Churches proved to be compremisers. I have documented many of these experiences, including how the religion blenders have worked via the spirit of iniquity to deceive the people in those Churches into fully embracing the false prophet groups, including the Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Muslims. Moreover, they also attacked the King James Bible promoting the Modern Translations. I have also set in on a number of various Sunday School sessions, where some have replaced the Bible with books about Social issues, and so forth that have absolutely no relevance to God or the Bible, while others will use the Sunday School class to have participants take turns reading from obscure passages of the Old Testament, with each using a different Translation that is different from the other, thus maintaining the pattern of deception to keep them ever learning and to never come to the full knowledge of the truth, and this is sad.

It is not difficult to spot them anywhere. When speaking out against Freemasonry, there are the initial evil blank glaring stares they give when they realize that a discerning Christian is exposing the darkness of their evil ways and the methods by which they operate. In Christian Forums, per 2Timothy 3:8, they are always the first in line to mock, ridicule, and belittle, as they strive against any Christian exposing them, and they never repent. These are Jezebel's servants. They are workers of the Devil. That said, there are those few that are simple, deceived, that have become fully beguiled that parrot the misinformation that they have been brainwashed into learning, are just as arrogant as Jehovah's Witnesses and Seventh Day Adventists. This is a case in point example of the fulfillment of how they follow after the pernicious ways of the false teacher per 2Peter 2:1 and they themselves, in turn, also become false teachers. In contending against the enemies of the cross, as well sharply rebuking others (2Timothy 4:1-5), there is what is perceived as "rudeness of speech". I suggest that any Saint prayerfully read 1Timothy 4:1-2, 2Corinthians 11, 2Timothy 3, 2Peter 2-3, Jude, and Revelation 2-3 to learn what that means, and learn to recognize the deceivers that masquerade as Christians, along with 1John, 2John, and 3John. Children of God hear one another, but Satan's seed, the tares, do not, but instead sew discord and division. Also consider the examples of Stephen in Acts 6:8 - Acts 8:1 as well as John the Baptist in John 1, who Jesus said is the greatest Prophet, along with John 8:43-45 where Jesus rebuked the Pharisees.

 

[Dino246]

To suggest that I am angry would be error. I am far from being angry, and therefore belligerent is not a proper to describe me either.

Fallacy: non sequitur.

I was not angry when I wrote my posts. I spoke the plain truth, and there was nothing corrupt that came from my mouth. Did that make you angry? You apparently do not like what I had to say, but if you would take the time to address the issues, rather than attack my person by falsely accusing me of being angry, and putting forth corrupt communication, instead of avoiding the issues, perhaps we could engage a conversation that pertains to the subject of this thread.

You like that word, "corrupt", don't you? How about you take your rhetoric down about seven notches. You supposedly want conversation, but you are so full of wind that it's going to be difficult, if not impossible, to communicate rationally with you.

The Lord Jesus Christ gave the command that we are to speak truth, each one of us, with our neighbor. Do you know where that verse is in the Bible? Pride certainly does go before a fall

Does it matter whether someone knows the address of a verse offhand? Or are you just showing your pride?

and it has been my experience that false teachers that campaign against the King James Bible are full of pride, as also are their counterparts, the Jehovah's Witnesses, who have been heavily campaigning against the King James Bible with the presentation of their New World Translation. Furthermore, the Roman Catholics burned thousands of King James Bibles in the streets of New York. I forget the exact year, but it was sometime during the 1880's or 1890's or thereabout, notwithstanding that much time had passed since they had murdered thousands of Christians, even burning many of them at the stake for owning a Bible. Do you know the true history of those events?

During the time of working on gathering and putting together a vast archive of evidence pertaining to the conspiratorial Occult agenda against the King James Bible, I had learned a great deal of information of how the Jesuits-Illuminati-Freemasons have infiltrated the Christian Denominations, and usurped key authoritative positions, even within the SBC after the Civil War, serving both a President of the SBC, as well as President of the First Baptist Seminary. Furthermore, during the process of investigation into the Roman Catholic Church, I had also discovered that the Knight Templars do in fact worship Satan, and that all of these people truly all work together as a cohesive team, against the Saints of God, and His Church. The Masons have been in control of Seminaries for a very long time now, and I also have real time evidence of their employment as Seminary Professors, not in the R.C.C. mind you, but in our Christian Seminaries.

While there is much more to share about those findings, I will transition to what I have encountered during the last few years since having already concluded the investigation into the R.C.C., Vatican, Illuminati, Freemasons, and the Rothschilds. What I discovered is that many of the Christian Forums across the Internet have become overrun with Masons. Some masons are out in the open, while others did their work with "apologetics" against the King James Bible in disguise, hiding the fact that they are masons; of which led to yet another investigation into the depth of their infiltration and involvement to form a Coup d'état on several Christian Forums where they have set up and established strong holds, where they have been working very heavily on this propaganda against the King James Bible for the last 20 years. During the course of that time, I saw where they had striven to shipwreck many people's faith, while they also mocked and ridiculed the Saints, and banned anyone that challenged them and got in their way. I also witnessed the edits and deletions of any posts that contained any truth that readily exposed the deception. None of this is "normal", but it has become the new normal as so many are proven to be beguiled away from trusting and believing the inerrancy and infallibility of the King James Bible.

In the meantime, I had visited numerous Churches, most of which had become overrun with Freemasons filling the entire Church wall to wall, while others had perhaps anywhere from one, three, or more. The Pastors of those Churches proved to be compremisers. I have documented many of these experiences, including how the religion blenders have worked via the spirit of iniquity to deceive the people in those Churches into fully embracing the false prophet groups, including the Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Muslims. Moreover, they also attacked the King James Bible promoting the Modern Translations. I have also set in on a number of various Sunday School sessions, where some have replaced the Bible with books about Social issues, and so forth that have absolutely no relevance to God or the Bible, while others will use the Sunday School class to have participants take turns reading from obscure passages of the Old Testament, with each using a different Translation that is different from the other, thus maintaining the pattern of deception to keep them ever learning and to never come to the full knowledge of the truth, and this is sad.

It is not difficult to spot them anywhere. When speaking out against Freemasonry, there are the initial evil blank glaring stares they give when they realize that a discerning Christian is exposing the darkness of their evil ways and the methods by which they operate. In Christian Forums, per 2Timothy 3:8, they are always the first in line to mock, ridicule, and belittle, as they strive against any Christian exposing them, and they never repent. These are Jezebel's servants. They are workers of the Devil. That said, there are those few that are simple, deceived, that have become fully beguiled that parrot the misinformation that they have been brainwashed into learning, are just as arrogant as Jehovah's Witnesses and Seventh Day Adventists. This is a case in point example of the fulfillment of how they follow after the pernicious ways of the false teacher per 2Peter 2:1 and they themselves, in turn, also become false teachers. In contending against the enemies of the cross, as well sharply rebuking others (2Timothy 4:1-5), there is what is perceived as "rudeness of speech". I suggest that any Saint prayerfully read 1Timothy 4:1-2, 2Corinthians 11, 2Timothy 3, 2Peter 2-3, Jude, and Revelation 2-3 to learn what that means, and learn to recognize the deceivers that masquerade as Christians, along with 1John, 2John, and 3John. Children of God hear one another, but Satan's seed, the tares, do not, but instead sew discord and division. Also consider the examples of Stephen in Acts 6:8 - Acts 8:1 as well as John the Baptist in John 1, who Jesus said is the greatest Prophet, along with John 8:43-45 where Jesus rebuked the Pharisees.

So you want to expose systemic resistance to the KJV. Okay, fine; start a thread on that specific subject. Don't muddy it up with other issues such as the alleged inerrancy of the KJV translation; you will get people arguing about that instead of about the alleged resistance.

If you want to argue specifically about the alleged inerrancy of the KJV as a translation, do yourself a favour first: read up on logical fallacies, and don't employ them. Most of the arguments put forth by KJV-only adherents are logically fallacious and therefore worthless. Don't bother comparing newer translations to the KJV; rather, compare both with the source-language material.

Avoid insulting those who disagree with you; that's a sure sign that your motivations are not from God. Nobody is going to pay attention to you if you blast everyone who doesn't immediately and wholeheartedly accept what you say as true. Remove the chip from your shoulder; Mustapha may have expressed an opinion about KJV defenders, but he did not attack the KJV at all. If you can't tell the difference, you don't have the capacity to handle this kind of discussion.

 

[J-T]

I don't mind what you choose to believe but I do mind you telling us we are a load of schmucks because we do not believe what you do.

It is worthy to note that I never called anyone a "schmuck". That said, what I want to draw attention are the highlighted words bold cased in the color of red, to draw attention to the fact that this Masonic phrasology has become commonplace rhetoric, and it the very deceptive rhetoric used for blending religions including false prophet groups. Understand that I am not saying @mustaphadrink is a mason. Over the years, I have had individuals from the false prophet groups of the Jehovah's Witnesses, Muslims, Mormons, and Seventh Day Adventists to say the very same thing to me. The questions that we should ask, "Is this Biblical?"; "Is this what Jesus and His chosen Apostles taught?"

What did Apostle Paul write and instruct by inspiration of The Holy Ghost in 1Corinthians 1:10?

1Co 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

What did Apostle Paul write by inspiration of The Holy Ghost in 1Timothy 4:-1-2?

1Ti 4:1-2 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

What instruction did Apostle Paul give in 2Timothy 4:1-5 and why?

2Ti 4:1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

2Ti 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2Ti 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

What did Apostle Paul instruct the Saints in Ephesians 4?

Eph 4:1-3 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

Eph 4:4-5 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
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Eph 4:14-16 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

Eph 4:17-19 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind, Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

Eph 4:20 But ye have not so learned Christ; If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Eph 4:25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.

Eph 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: Neither give place to the devil.

Eph 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth. Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Eph 4:31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

What warning did Apostle Peter give in 2Peter 2-3? Examine this highlight, and read the full passage along with Jude and Revelation 2-3:

2Pe 2:1-2 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

 

[J-T]

Fallacy: non sequitur.

Here, you have accused me of speaking falsely when I did not. Can you explain why it is that you like to use "excellency of speech" or "great swelling words" to falsely accuse someone?

If you do not understand what or how "excellency of speech" is used in the Bible along with "great swelling words", please consider reading 1Corinthians 1-2 & 1Corinthians 2:4-6 to perhaps grasp what Apostle Paul said about them, as Christ spoke through him and contrast what is written in those verses with 2Peter 2:18 and Jude 1:6:

1Co 2:1-2 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

1Co 2:4-6 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

2Pe 2:18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

Jud 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

You like that word, "corrupt", don't you? How about you take your rhetoric down about seven notches. You supposedly want conversation, but you are so full of wind that it's going to be difficult, if not impossible, to communicate rationally with you.

I will stick to speaking the truth. Have you considered doing a word search and study of "corrupt" and "corruption" in the Bible to see how and why they are used? Per the accusation that was made against me of making "corrupt communication", do a prayerful read of the full context of Ephesians 4 to learn what "corrupt communication" means, and then show me, in any of my posts, where I put forth any "corrupt communication".

Does it matter whether someone knows the address of a verse offhand? Or are you just showing your pride?

You are meddling with false accusation into a question that I had asked someone else, while you have avoided truthfully answering the simple questions that were asked of you.

Your hypocrisy was already made manifest with clear proof of your sewing of division and discord on pages 11 and 12 of this thread: >>>> HERE <<<< and it is worth mentioning that it was under the eyes of a discerning Moderator.

So you want to expose systemic resistance to the KJV. Okay, fine; start a thread on that specific subject. Don't muddy it up with other issues such as the alleged inerrancy of the KJV translation; you will get people arguing about that instead of about the alleged resistance.

If you want to argue specifically about the alleged inerrancy of the KJV as a translation, do yourself a favour first: read up on logical fallacies, and don't employ them. Most of the arguments put forth by KJV-only adherents are logically fallacious and therefore worthless. Don't bother comparing newer translations to the KJV; rather, compare both with the source-language material.

Avoid insulting those who disagree with you; that's a sure sign that your motivations are not from God. Nobody is going to pay attention to you if you blast everyone who doesn't immediately and wholeheartedly accept what you say as true. Remove the chip from your shoulder; Mustapha may have expressed an opinion about KJV defenders, but he did not attack the KJV at all. If you can't tell the difference, you don't have the capacity to handle this kind of discussion.

Sadly, people have been arguing since the the Occult agenda against the King James Bible began to leaven in Seminaries and Churches, as discord and division was wrought by the false teachers. It is a given that people will be offended when speaking truth on this issue, and most especially the false teachers that want to keep people beguiled with their cunning craftiness.

As I also stated before, I have already concluded an exhaustive research into the Gnostic work with the "Modern Translations", and have identified those of the Occult that are responsible for producing them.

 

[Dino246]

Something went wrong with the quote feature so your words are in gray.

[QUOTE="J-T, post: 4368041, member: 299842"]Here, you have accused me of speaking falsely when I did not. Can you explain why it is that you like to use "excellency of speech" or "great swelling words" to falsely accuse someone?[/QUOTE]
Go and look up the definition of "fallacy" and get back to me when you have done so. Don't bother replying to this comment otherwise.

[QUOTE="J-T, post: 4368041, member: 299842"]I will stick to speaking the truth. Have you considered doing a word search and study of "corrupt" and "corruption" in the Bible to see how and why they are used? Per the accusation that was made against me of making "corrupt communication", do a prayerful read of the full context of Ephesians 4 to learn what "corrupt communication" means, and then show me, in any of my posts, where I put forth any "corrupt communication".[/QUOTE]
Clearly, you didn't even read what I wrote.

[QUOTE="J-T, post: 4368041, member: 299842"]You are meddling with false accusation into a question that I had asked someone else, while you have avoided truthfully answering the simple questions that were asked of you.[/QUOTE]
Yawn. This is a discussion site. I am free to comment on posts you made to someone else. Deal with it.

[QUOTE="J-T, post: 4368041, member: 299842"]Your hypocrisy was already made manifest with clear proof of your sewing of division and discord on pages 11 and 12 of this thread: >>>> HERE <<<< and it is worth mentioning that it was under the eyes of a discerning Moderator.[/QUOTE]
The word is "sowing". I'm not surprised that you don't know the difference. As for your veiled threat, report me if you like, but I suggest that you first read the thread that explains the reasons why reporting is warranted.

[QUOTE="J-T, post: 4368041, member: 299842"]As I also stated before, I have already concluded an exhaustive research into the Gnostic work with the "Modern Translations", and have identified those of the Occult that are responsible for producing them.[/QUOTE]
Good for you. Now you can start "an exhaustive research" into being a mature and respectful human being.

 

[J-T]

Go and look up the definition of "fallacy" and get back to me when you have done so. Don't bother replying to this comment otherwise.

I understand the definition of the word.

The word is "sowing". I'm not surprised that you don't know the difference.

Thank you for the spell check. You have busted me red handed. I tend to ocassionally misspell words, and that is one of them.

 

[Dino246]

I understand the definition of the word.

Unless you have looked it up in the last fifteen minutes, you clearly don't.

 

[J-T]

Unless you have looked it up in the last fifteen minutes, you clearly don't.

With your use of the world's wisdom and with the cheering of those that get a thrill with your mocking wittiness you will continue to tickle the ears of your fans. But in the end, it will be The Lord Jesus Christ that you will have to answer to.

Proverbs 26:12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

 

[Dino246]

With your use of the world's wisdom and with the cheering of those that get a thrill with your mocking wittiness you will continue to tickle the ears of your fans. But in the end, it will be The Lord Jesus Christ that you will have to answer to.

Proverbs 26:12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.[/QUOTE]
Look up the word, and then look in the mirror.

 

[J-T]

Look up the word, and then look in the mirror.

I told you that I understood the definition. Did I miss something because of the way you communicated? Did you intend your comment toward me or the person that made the accusation against me? Make yourself clear instead of being so arrogantly contentious!!

 

[J-T]

Which Generation Was The Bible Lost? (Part 1)​

When Did God Become INCOMPETENT To Preserve His Words?
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Psa 33:11 The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.

Psa 100:5 For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.

Exo 3:15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

Exo 12:42 It is a night to be much observed unto the LORD for bringing them out from the land of Egypt: this is that night of the LORD to be observed of all the children of Israel in their generations.

Lev 3:17 It shall be a perpetual statute for your generations throughout all your dwellings, that ye eat neither fat nor blood.

Lev 6:18 All the males among the children of Aaron shall eat of it. It shall be a statute for ever in your generations concerning the offerings of the LORD made by fire: every one that toucheth them shall be holy.

Lev 22:3 Say unto them, Whosoever he be of all your seed among your generations, that goeth unto the holy things, which the children of Israel hallow unto the LORD, having his uncleanness upon him, that soul shall be cut off from my presence: I am the LORD.

Lev 23:14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

Lev 23:21 And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day, that it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work therein: it shall be a statute for ever in all your dwellings throughout your generations.

Lev 23:31 Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

Num 1:20 And the children of Reuben, Israel's eldest son, by their generations, after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, by their polls, every male from twenty years old and upward, all that were able to go forth to war;

Num 1:22 Of the children of Simeon, by their generations, after their families, by the house of their fathers, those that were numbered of them, according to the number of the names, by their polls, every male from twenty years old and upward, all that were able to go forth to war;

Num 1:24 Of the children of Gad, by their generations, after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, all that were able to go forth to war;

Num 1:26 Of the children of Judah, by their generations, after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, all that were able to go forth to war;

Num 1:28 Of the children of Issachar, by their generations, after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, all that were able to go forth to war;

Num 1:30 Of the children of Zebulun, by their generations, after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, all that were able to go forth to war;

Num 1:32 Of the children of Joseph, namely, of the children of Ephraim, by their generations, after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, all that were able to go forth to war;

Num 1:34 Of the children of Manasseh, by their generations, after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, all that were able to go forth to war;

Num 1:36 Of the children of Benjamin, by their generations, after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, all that were able to go forth to war;

Num 1:38 Of the children of Dan, by their generations, after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, all that were able to go forth to war;

Num 1:40 Of the children of Asher, by their generations, after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, all that were able to go forth to war;

Num 1:42 Of the children of Naphtali, throughout their generations, after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, all that were able to go forth to war;

Num 15:23 Even all that the LORD hath commanded you by the hand of Moses, from the day that the LORD commanded Moses, and henceforward among your generations;

1Ch 9:9 And their brethren, according to their generations, nine hundred and fifty and six. All these men were chief of the fathers in the house of their fathers.

Psa 45:17 I will make thy name to be remembered in all generations: therefore shall the people praise thee for ever and ever.

Psa 49:11 Their inward thought is, that their houses shall continue for ever, and their dwelling places to all generations; they call their lands after their own names.

Psa 72:5 They shall fear thee as long as the sun and moon endure, throughout all generations.

Psa 79:13 So we thy people and sheep of thy pasture will give thee thanks for ever: we will shew forth thy praise to all generations.

Psa 85:5 Wilt thou be angry with us for ever? wilt thou draw out thine anger to all generations?

Psa 89:1 Maschil of Ethan the Ezrahite. I will sing of the mercies of the LORD for ever: with my mouth will I make known thy faithfulness to all generations.

Psa 89:4 Thy seed will I establish for ever, and build up thy throne to all generations. Selah.

Psa 90:1 A Prayer of Moses the man of God. Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.

Psa 102:12 But thou, O LORD, shalt endure for ever; and thy remembrance unto all generations.

Psa 102:24 I said, O my God, take me not away in the midst of my days: thy years are throughout all generations.

Psa 106:31 And that was counted unto him for righteousness unto all generations for evermore.

Psa 119:90 Thy faithfulness is unto all generations: thou hast established the earth, and it abideth.

Psa 135:13 Thy name, O LORD, endureth for ever; and thy memorial, O LORD, throughout all generations.

Psa 145:13 Thy kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and thy dominion endureth throughout all generations.

Psa 146:10 The LORD shall reign for ever, even thy God, O Zion, unto all generations. Praise ye the LORD.

Mat 1:17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

 

[Dino246]

I told you that I understood the definition. Did I miss something because of the way you communicated? Did you intend your comment toward me or the person that made the accusation against me? Make yourself clear instead of being so arrogantly contentious!!

You can claim until you're blue in the face that you understand the word, but your initial reaction to my use of it demonstrated that you did not understand it. You have not yet demonstrated otherwise, or admitted that you didn't.

Drop the whiney rhetoric, step up like a man, and show that you understand what the word "fallacy" means. You can start with an apology.

 

[EleventhHour]

Unless you have looked it up in the last fifteen minutes, you clearly don't.

I learned a new fallacy.... "sunk cost fallacy" .... people have invested too much in KJV only I think!

 

[J-T]

You can claim until you're blue in the face that you understand the word, but your initial reaction to my use of it demonstrated that you did not understand it. You have not yet demonstrated otherwise, or admitted that you didn't.

Drop the whiney rhetoric, step up like a man, and show that you understand what the word "fallacy" means. You can start with an apology.

You still have not made yourself clear. You quoted my post, which contained my words intended for someone else, and posted a comment that was not specified to be intended for anyone else. How do I know that it was not directed at me, unless you first clarify yourself? You should apologize for wasting my time with your games.

Would you prefer copy & paste of the definition from a Google Search?

Fallacy
A fallacy is the use of invalid or otherwise faulty reasoning, or "wrong moves" in the construction of an argument. A fallacious argument may be deceptive by appearing to be better than it really is. Some fallacies are committed intentionally to manipulate or persuade by deception, while others are committed unintentionally due to carelessness or ignorance.

 

[J-T]

I learned a new fallacy.... "sunk cost fallacy" .... people have invested too much in KJV only I think!

Really? You too? It is tragic when Christians turn a blind eye to the reality that the Modern Versions are Gnostic re-writes, even when it has been declared that this can be proven, especially in the hour when all of the nations of the earth are about to be taken captive by Satanists. Are you aware of this, or are you blinded to this reality as well? Would you believe it if the proof was placed right in front of your eyes?

 

[EleventhHour]

Really? You too? It is tragic when Christians turn a blind eye to the reality that the Modern Versions are Gnostic re-writes, even when it has been declared that this can be proven, especially in the hour when all of the nations of the earth are about to be taken captive by Satanists. Are you aware of this, or are you blinded to this reality as well? Would you believe it if the proof was placed right in front of your eyes?

I am not really all that knowledgeable about this debate... but I do know one thing I have yet to read within the King James Bible this endorsement by God....."The King James Bible is my infallible version for all time"