"this generation will not pass away" - until the second coming of Jesus?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

PlainWord

Senior Member
Jun 11, 2013
7,080
151
63
It's my opinion that (Full Preterist) would be found identified below.

1) Denial Of A Future Second Coming Of Jesus Christ.

2) Denial Of A Future Resurrection Of The Believer.

(Full Preterism) Is Heretical

Romans 16:17-18KJV
17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
You still won't answer the question. Instead you deflect. Answer the question, if you can.

Q: Which generation is/was God/Jesus angry at and would be/was the subject of their wrath and why???

If you are so sure of your position, you should be able to easily answer the above.
 

PlainWord

Senior Member
Jun 11, 2013
7,080
151
63
Yeah, that may very well be. However, these are the teachings of Roman Catholicism which you are claiming.

His mercy extends to those who fear Him from generation to generation. You have to believe in the true Christ, not the counterfeit one's. Mormon's and JW's say the same thing, yet they believe in another Jesus and another gospel. As Paul said, there be gospels many and Lord's many.

If you are practicing and engaging in the beliefs and rituals of the RCC, then God is calling you and other to come out of her, because she is Mystery, Babylon the great.
The RCC is NOT Mystery Babylon. Good grief.

In Jeremiah 3, Israel is called the Harlot repeatedly. In Ezekiel, Israel is called a harlot 35 times leading up to her destruction by Babylon!!

Thus in Revelation, Israel is Mystery Babylon ahead of her second destruction by Rome.
 
Aug 14, 2019
1,374
307
83
Transubstantiation is a tool used to keep Catholics in bondage, like a fast talker selling snake oil for a cure.
It's not doing a very good job. Most Catholics don't believe the consecrated host is the Body, soul and divinity of Jesus. How many people understand transubstantiation let alone it restricting their freedom. Do you understand transubstantiation?

Also, the Catholic Church doesn't concoct doctrine to fit tyrranical desires.
The life of the Catholic Church is rich in experience of union with Christ. The Grace of the Sacraments is effective and the effect can also be experienced. Most of the Church's teaching are explanations of the work of the Holy Spirit in its role as guide.
We teach what we see as Jesus taught Nicodemus.
 

PlainWord

Senior Member
Jun 11, 2013
7,080
151
63
You still won't answer the question. Instead you deflect. Answer the question, if you can.

Q: Which generation is/was God/Jesus angry at and would be/was the subject of their wrath and why???

If you are so sure of your position, you should be able to easily answer the above.
Clearly this question has you stumped. Let's try an easier question.

Was Jesus upset with the generation of His day, especially it's leaders?

I'll give you just a small sample of passages as a hint. This is a Yes or No question. You can call a friend if you are unsure how to answer. Others on here, feel free to weigh in too if you know. Truth needs your help.

Matthew 3:7
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Matthew 12:34
Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

Matthew 23:33
Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell?

Luke 9:41
Then Jesus answered and said, “O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you and bear with you?

Matthew 12:39
But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.

Mark 6:11
And whoever will not receive you nor hear you, when you depart from there, shake off the dust under your feet as a testimony against them. Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!

John 2:15
When He had made a whip of cords, He drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen, and poured out the changers’ money and overturned the tables.
 

Truth7t7

Well-known member
May 19, 2020
7,685
2,496
113
It's not doing a very good job. Most Catholics don't believe the consecrated host is the Body, soul and divinity of Jesus. How many people understand transubstantiation let alone it restricting their freedom. Do you understand transubstantiation?

Also, the Catholic Church doesn't concoct doctrine to fit tyrranical desires.
The life of the Catholic Church is rich in experience of union with Christ. The Grace of the Sacraments is effective and the effect can also be experienced. Most of the Church's teaching are explanations of the work of the Holy Spirit in its role as guide.
We teach what we see as Jesus taught Nicodemus.
Perhaps the priest below, was intoxicated with alcohol from the wine in the cup on Sunday July 14th 2019

Priest charged with drunken driving arraigned

Aug 1, 2019

WARWICK, R.I. (AP) — A Roman Catholic priest from Rhode Island police say was driving drunk when he struck and injured a pedestrian was allowed to remain free on $10,000 bond at his arraignment.

The 38-year-old Ploch was arrested July 14 after police say he struck a pedestrian in Warwick. Police say his blood-alcohol content was higher than .15%
 

PlainWord

Senior Member
Jun 11, 2013
7,080
151
63
Nothing but crickets from Truth7t7. She cannot answer my simple question as to whether or not Jesus was angry at His generation and especially the religious/ruling class.
 

Truth7t7

Well-known member
May 19, 2020
7,685
2,496
113
Nothing but crickets from Truth7t7. She cannot answer my simple question as to whether or not Jesus was angry at His generation and especially the religious/ruling class.
I'm A (He), Old Enough To Remember The Beetles On The Ed Sullivan Show, On That Little Black And White Circular Screen TV (y)

No Need To Argue The Two Points Below, That Are The Very Foundations Of The Christian Faith.

It's my opinion that (Full Preterist) would be found identified below.

1) Denial Of A Future Second Coming Of Jesus Christ.

2) Denial Of A Future Resurrection Of The Believer.

(Full Preterism) Is Heretical

Romans 16:17-18KJV
17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For
they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
 

PlainWord

Senior Member
Jun 11, 2013
7,080
151
63
I'm A (He), Old Enough To Remember The Beetles On The Ed Sullivan Show, On That Little Black And White Circular Screen TV (y)

No Need To Argue The Two Points Below, That Are The Very Foundations Of The Christian Faith.

It's my opinion that (Full Preterist) would be found identified below.

1) Denial Of A Future Second Coming Of Jesus Christ.

2) Denial Of A Future Resurrection Of The Believer.

(Full Preterism) Is Heretical

Romans 16:17-18KJV
17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For
they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
Then why did you question me when I called you brother? That's what Christian men do, but perhaps not in your church. I'm old enough to remember Kennedy's assassination. Why is it only I'm causing division when your view is divisive to me and all other preterists? Clearly the doctrine they learned does not match the one you support.

Apparently you aren't man enough to answer either of my softball questions. Since you don't know if Christ was mad as His generation even after all the verses I shared with you, why should anybody take you as an authority about anything brother?
 

Truth7t7

Well-known member
May 19, 2020
7,685
2,496
113
Then why did you question me when I called you brother? That's what Christian men do, but perhaps not in your church. I'm old enough to remember Kennedy's assassination. Why is it only I'm causing division when your view is divisive to me and all other preterists? Clearly the doctrine they learned does not match the one you support.

Apparently you aren't man enough to answer either of my softball questions. Since you don't know if Christ was mad as His generation even after all the verses I shared with you, why should anybody take you as an authority about anything brother?
The Scripture Presented Below Is Self Explanatory :)

It's my opinion that (Full Preterist) would be found identified below.

1) Denial Of A Future Second Coming Of Jesus Christ.

2) Denial Of A Future Resurrection Of The Believer.

(Full Preterism) Is Heretical

Romans 16:17-18KJV
17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
 

PlainWord

Senior Member
Jun 11, 2013
7,080
151
63
The Scripture Presented Below Is Self Explanatory :)

It's my opinion that (Full Preterist) would be found identified below.

1) Denial Of A Future Second Coming Of Jesus Christ.

2) Denial Of A Future Resurrection Of The Believer.

(Full Preterism) Is Heretical

Romans 16:17-18KJV
17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
Okay, you don't want to engage in an actual discussion. You just want to copy and paste the same nonsense over and over like that will give it more weight. Come back when you want to actually learn something.
 
Aug 14, 2019
1,374
307
83
Perhaps the priest below, was intoxicated with alcohol from the wine in the cup on Sunday July 14th 2019

Priest charged with drunken driving arraigned

Aug 1, 2019

WARWICK, R.I. (AP) — A Roman Catholic priest from Rhode Island police say was driving drunk when he struck and injured a pedestrian was allowed to remain free on $10,000 bond at his arraignment.

The 38-year-old Ploch was arrested July 14 after police say he struck a pedestrian in Warwick. Police say his blood-alcohol content was higher than .15%
That's nothing. There is evil worse than that done by Priests. What does that have to do with anything?
 

Truth7t7

Well-known member
May 19, 2020
7,685
2,496
113
That's nothing. There is evil worse than that done by Priests. What does that have to do with anything?
If a priest leaves mass after drinking 5 goblets of wine during the sacrament, and gets a drink driving, what does that tell ya?

That the wine containing alcohol is just that, wine with alcohol, not the actual blood of Jesus Christ as many Catholics (Falsely Claim)
 
Aug 14, 2019
1,374
307
83
If a priest leaves mass after drinking 5 goblets of wine during the sacrament, and gets a drink driving, what does that tell ya?

That the wine containing alcohol is just that, wine with alcohol, not the actual blood of Jesus Christ as many Catholics (Falsely Claim)
Of course! Trans substance. The substance of bread or wine is no longer there but the accidents remain.
 
Aug 14, 2019
1,374
307
83
Real Big Smiles To That One, Real Big! :LOL::giggle::ROFL:
Yep. That's the rejection typical of a teaching that's difficult to accept.
Real Big Smiles To That One, Real Big! :LOL::giggle::ROFL:
Evidently you heard the truth about the Eucharist. What you are believing is what those rejecting him in John 6;66 would have accepted. If it's an easy sale it isn't a hard teaching to accept.
 

Truth7t7

Well-known member
May 19, 2020
7,685
2,496
113
Yep. That's the rejection typical of a teaching that's difficult to accept.
Evidently you heard the truth about the Eucharist. What you are believing is what those rejecting him in John 6;66 would have accepted. If it's an easy sale it isn't a hard teaching to accept.
The body (bread) and blood (wine) of Christ was a symbolic representation, to claim it's the actual flesh and body of Jesus Christ is morbidly evil in my opinion.

Transubstantiation isn't the only thing that blinds many Catholics, bowing to idols is another?

KTLA.COM

Catholics in worship of a water stain on a sidewalk, that's sad!

An unusual stain that bears a resemblance to the Virgin Mary is seen on a sidewalk in Artesia on Dec. 14, 2018, in a photo provided by the Holy Family Catholic Church.
 

Dino246

Senior Member
Jun 30, 2015
25,606
13,863
113
The Scripture Presented Below Is Self Explanatory :)

Romans 16:17-18KJV
17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
Your "logic" is backwards, and depends upon your commentary to make the sense you want it to make, meaning it is not as "self-explanatory" as you think.

You are assuming that those who disagree with you don't serve Christ. What is your evidence? Nothing other than the disagreement itself. I could make exactly the same argument about you, with exactly the same degree of logical validity.

In other words, you've got nothing.

I also see you've reverted to incorrect use of brackets. Are you really that unteachable?
 
Aug 14, 2019
1,374
307
83
People can go overboard on such things but....I don't see anything idolatrous in regards of their attitude toward the stain.

Even if They were distorting the value of the stain it isn't relative to what the Catholic Church is.

I'm more pursuaded by it's history and teaching.
 

SoulWeaver

Senior Member
Oct 25, 2014
4,889
2,534
113
Catholics in worship of a water stain on a sidewalk, that's sad!

An unusual stain that bears a resemblance to the Virgin Mary is seen on a sidewalk in Artesia on Dec. 14, 2018, in a photo provided by the Holy Family Catholic Church.
It seems like a pretty random stain to me...........?
It reminds me of those Jesus on toast things... will God seriously be revealing His face to us through toasters and pancakes?
Not to mention that these things can be manipulated by pressing on the areas you want to keep lighter to create a slight pit when you're baking them.
 

Truth7t7

Well-known member
May 19, 2020
7,685
2,496
113
Your "logic" is backwards, and depends upon your commentary to make the sense you want it to make, meaning it is not as "self-explanatory" as you think.

You are assuming that those who disagree with you don't serve Christ. What is your evidence? Nothing other than the disagreement itself. I could make exactly the same argument about you, with exactly the same degree of logical validity.

In other words, you've got nothing.

I also see you've reverted to incorrect use of brackets. Are you really that unteachable?
Can a person learn from a bully on the playground? :)