"this generation will not pass away" - until the second coming of Jesus?

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Truth7t7

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People can go overboard on such things but....I don't see anything idolatrous in regards of their attitude toward the stain.

Even if They were distorting the value of the stain it isn't relative to what the Catholic Church is.

I'm more pursuaded by it's history and teaching.
History?

Persuaded at the Catholic Inquisition, and torture of innocent humans?

Inquisition, the cruel torture methods of the Church in the 16th century




Inquisition, the cruel torture methods of the Church in the 16th century

 

Dino246

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Can a person learn from a bully on the playground? :)
I'm unimpressed by your pathetic attempts at rebuke. Or perhaps it's just another method to avoid learning.
 

Ahwatukee

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Yep. That's the rejection typical of a teaching that's difficult to accept.
Evidently you heard the truth about the Eucharist. What you are believing is what those rejecting him in John 6;66 would have accepted. If it's an easy sale it isn't a hard teaching to accept.
It wasn't difficult to accept! They left off following the Lord because they misunderstood that what He was saying was figurative.

"The Spirit gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life."

Regarding eating His flesh, if He was speaking literally, on the night that He was betrayed He would have cut off a piece of His flesh and given it to the disciples to eat. Likewise, the Lord would have cut himself and offered literal blood for them to drink. As it was, He broke bread and gave it to them saying "This is my body." Let me paraphrase "This bread figuratively represents my body that is broken for you." As often as you break this bread, do this in remembrance of Me. Likewise, the cup was the fruit of the vine and not His literal blood. For after He gave it to them to drink He said, "I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom." Therefore, the cup did not contain the Lord's literal blood, but the fruit of the vine as representing His blood.

There is no transubstantiation taking place when we break bread. We are not eating the literal flesh and blood of the Lord. When we break bread we are doing this as a symbolic observance of His body that was broken for us and His blood that was shed for us.

This is exactly why God is calling all who belong to the RCC (the woman who rides the beast) to come out of the woman, because she is causing all people to commit spiritual adultery against God by her pagan practices and rituals which all stem from ancient Babylon.
 
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wasn't difficult to accept! They left off following the Lord because they misunderstood that what He was saying was figurative.
That would have been an easy fix.


Oh wait guys.....You thought I meant that for real?? NAhhh the bread isn't my flesh for real....You can come back...eating my flesh is reading Scriptures.
 
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This is exactly why God is calling all who belong to the RCC (the woman who rides the beast) to come out of the woman, because she is causing all people to commit spiritual adultery against God by her pagan practices and rituals which all stem from ancient Babylon.
If you can tell me who she is and perhaps the original city......I can take that more seriously.
 
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You still won't answer the question. Instead you deflect. Answer the question, if you can.

Q: Which generation is/was God/Jesus angry at and would be/was the subject of their wrath and why???

If you are so sure of your position, you should be able to easily answer the above.
The generation of Adam called the evil generation Unconverted mankind . His wrath is revealed daily from heaven A dying creation suffering the wage of sin hell.

Why? Because they violate the letter of the law... thou shall surely die .
 

Ahwatukee

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That would have been an easy fix.


Oh wait guys.....You thought I meant that for real?? NAhhh the bread isn't my flesh for real....You can come back...eating my flesh is reading Scriptures.
Bread = symbolic representing the Lord's body that is broken for us

Fruit of the vine = symbolic representing the Lord's blood that was shed for the sins of many

Very simple to understand. There is no such thing as transubstantiation.
 
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That would have been an easy fix.


Oh wait guys.....You thought I meant that for real?? NAhhh the bread isn't my flesh for real....You can come back...eating my flesh is reading Scriptures.
Drinking the blood or eating the flesh is a metaphor for found in a parable .The suffering ones own soul in jeopardy of one own spirt life.

Great parable given twice in the Old testament. It uses David imprisoned longing for the water of the gospel .God is shown sending three of the renown giants of faith to bring the water used to signify the gospel. Three representing the end of a matter.

When the men brought the living water from the Jacob's well near the city of bread Bethlehem. David poured out the work of the three calling it blood and gave glory to God. Because they went in jeopardy of their lives just as Christ did for us

2 Samuel 23:15-1 And David was then in an hold, and the garrison of the Philistines was then in Bethlehem.
And David longed, and said, Oh that one would give me drink of the water of the well of Bethlehem, which is by the gate! And the three mighty men brake through the host of the Philistines, and drew water out of the well of Bethlehem, that was by the gate, and took it, and brought it to David: nevertheless he would not drink thereof, but poured it out unto the
Lord. And he said, Be it far from me, O Lord, that I should do this: is not this the blood of the men that went in jeopardy of their lives? therefore he would not drink it. These things did these three mighty men.
 

Ahwatukee

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If you can tell me who she is and perhaps the original city......I can take that more seriously.
I already did. But here it is again

* The seven heads are seven hills upon which the woman sits.

Rome was literally built on and is famous for her seven hills. Rome's idolatrous religious system is what is in view here. Her headquarters.

* The woman you saw is that great city that rules over the kings of the earth.

At the time that the angel was giving John this information, Rome was that city that ruled over the kings of the earth

* The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet

Purple and scarlet are another God-given clue pointing to the colors worn by the bishops and cardinals, of which I provided in the previous post.

However, it seems that no amount of scripture aligned with physical proof will convince you which is par for these last days. For we are living in the time of this scripture which says,

"The days are coming when people will not put up with sound doctrine. But to suit their own desires they will gather around themselves a great many teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will abandon the truth and turn aside to myths."
 

Truth7t7

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Bread = symbolic representing the Lord's body that is broken for us

Fruit of the vine = symbolic representing the Lord's blood that was shed for the sins of many

Very simple to understand. There is no such thing as transubstantiation.
You don't believe in the (Train-At-The-Station) cause that's where it's stuck :)
 

Dino246

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Drinking the blood or eating the flesh is a metaphor for found in a parable .The suffering ones own soul in jeopardy of one own spirt life.

Great parable given twice in the Old testament. It uses David imprisoned longing for the water of the gospel .God is shown sending three of the renown giants of faith to bring the water used to signify the gospel. Three representing the end of a matter.

When the men brought the living water from the Jacob's well near the city of bread Bethlehem. David poured out the work of the three calling it blood and gave glory to God. Because they went in jeopardy of their lives just as Christ did for us

2 Samuel 23:15-1 And David was then in an hold, and the garrison of the Philistines was then in Bethlehem.
And David longed, and said, Oh that one would give me drink of the water of the well of Bethlehem, which is by the gate! And the three mighty men brake through the host of the Philistines, and drew water out of the well of Bethlehem, that was by the gate, and took it, and brought it to David: nevertheless he would not drink thereof, but poured it out unto the
Lord. And he said, Be it far from me, O Lord, that I should do this: is not this the blood of the men that went in jeopardy of their lives? therefore he would not drink it. These things did these three mighty men.
It's not a parable.
 
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Bread = symbolic representing the Lord's body that is broken for us

Fruit of the vine = symbolic representing the Lord's blood that was shed for the sins of many

Very simple to understand. There is no such thing as transubstantiation.
John 6:66
1 John 4:3
1 John 4:4
 
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I already did. But here it is again

* The seven heads are seven hills upon which the woman sits.

Rome was literally built on and is famous for her seven hills. Rome's idolatrous religious system is what is in view here. Her headquarters.

* The woman you saw is that great city that rules over the kings of the earth.

At the time that the angel was giving John this information, Rome was that city that ruled over the kings of the earth

* The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet

Purple and scarlet are another God-given clue pointing to the colors worn by the bishops and cardinals, of which I provided in the previous post.

However, it seems that no amount of scripture aligned with physical proof will convince you which is par for these last days. For we are living in the time of this scripture which says,

"The days are coming when people will not put up with sound doctrine. But to suit their own desires they will gather around themselves a great many teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will abandon the truth and turn aside to myths."
You didn't even try to answer the question.
 
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Drinking the blood or eating the flesh is a metaphor for found in a parable .The suffering ones own soul in jeopardy of one own spirt life.

Great parable given twice in the Old testament. It uses David imprisoned longing for the water of the gospel .God is shown sending three of the renown giants of faith to bring the water used to signify the gospel. Three representing the end of a matter.

When the men brought the living water from the Jacob's well near the city of bread Bethlehem. David poured out the work of the three calling it blood and gave glory to God. Because they went in jeopardy of their lives just as Christ did for us

2 Samuel 23:15-1 And David was then in an hold, and the garrison of the Philistines was then in Bethlehem.
And David longed, and said, Oh that one would give me drink of the water of the well of Bethlehem, which is by the gate! And the three mighty men brake through the host of the Philistines, and drew water out of the well of Bethlehem, that was by the gate, and took it, and brought it to David: nevertheless he would not drink thereof, but poured it out unto the
Lord. And he said, Be it far from me, O Lord, that I should do this: is not this the blood of the men that went in jeopardy of their lives? therefore he would not drink it. These things did these three mighty men.
That's good agree. I think Christ gave David a good reason to think that.
 

Ahwatukee

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John 6:66
1 John 4:3
1 John 4:4
So ....... what does the spirit of the antichrist mentioned in 1 John 4:3-4 have to do with the breaking of bread and the cup of the Lord as being symbolic of the Lord's body and blood?
 

Ahwatukee

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If you can tell me who she is and perhaps the original city......I can take that more seriously.
I already taught on this in post #311. You should go back and read it. The scriptures and their meanings are all their.