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Ahwatukee

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Just almost ☺
As a Christian guided by Scriptures I'm Catholic.
Really? As a Catholic do you worship Mary, believe in Purgatory, believe in transubstantiation, the infallibility of the pope, that priests can absolve a person of their sins? These are just a few of the beliefs of Roman Catholicism, which are not in line with the word of God. I would also mention that pagan Egyptian obelisk that sits out in the middle of St. Peter's square. God is calling His people to come out of her, because she is a counterfeit church.
 

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I've noticed that some people are just devoid of scriptural reasoning or logic. These are the one's whose minds have been blinded by the enemy. They're not capable of receiving the truth.
Since you are wrong about almost everything, would your statement apply to yourself?
 

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Really? As a Catholic do you worship Mary, believe in Purgatory, believe in transubstantiation, the infallibility of the pope, that priests can absolve a person of their sins? These are just a few of the beliefs of Roman Catholicism, which are not in line with the word of God. I would also mention that pagan Egyptian obelisk that sits out in the middle of St. Peter's square. God is calling His people to come out of her, because she is a counterfeit church.
At least most Catholics don't believe in your crazy "end-of- the- world-all- Christians- morph- into- angels- and- fly- away- while- a- boogieman- makes- everyone- take- a- 666- on- their- hand- or- forehead" doctrine.
 

Truth7t7

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or sister. pls answer the question
It's my opinion that (Full Preterist) would be found identified below.

1) Denial Of A Future Second Coming Of Jesus Christ.

2) Denial Of A Future Resurrection Of The Believer.

(Full Preterism) Is Heretical

Romans 16:17-18KJV
17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
 
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Really? As a Catholic do you worship Mary, believe in Purgatory, believe in transubstantiation, the infallibility of the pope, that priests can absolve a person of their sins? These are just a few of the beliefs of Roman Catholicism, which are not in line with the word of God. I would also mention that pagan Egyptian obelisk that sits out in the middle of St. Peter's square. God is calling His people to come out of her, because she is a counterfeit church.
Apparently the depths of Scriptures have been plumbed! I'll address the accusation of giving to Mary what belongs to God. I've never met the person who confuses a creature with the Creator. Mary's life participates in an exclusive way, in the mission of her Son. As the old Prophet Simon revealed. A sword will pierce her heart as well, so that the secret thoughts of many be revealed.
Her soul magnifies Our Lord.

According to Scriptures.

From generation to generation they will call her Blessed. Do you?
Very much more of her in the Word. She delivered the Word of God.
 

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Apparently the depths of Scriptures have been plumbed! I'll address the accusation of giving to Mary what belongs to God. I've never met the person who confuses a creature with the Creator. Mary's life participates in an exclusive way, in the mission of her Son. As the old Prophet Simon revealed. A sword will pierce her heart as well, so that the secret thoughts of many be revealed.
Her soul magnifies Our Lord.

According to Scriptures.

From generation to generation they will call her Blessed. Do you?
Very much more of her in the Word. She delivered the Word of God.
Yeah, that may very well be. However, these are the teachings of Roman Catholicism which you are claiming.

His mercy extends to those who fear Him from generation to generation. You have to believe in the true Christ, not the counterfeit one's. Mormon's and JW's say the same thing, yet they believe in another Jesus and another gospel. As Paul said, there be gospels many and Lord's many.

If you are practicing and engaging in the beliefs and rituals of the RCC, then God is calling you and other to come out of her, because she is Mystery, Babylon the great.
 

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Yeah, that may very well be. However, these are the teachings of Roman Catholicism which you are claiming.

His mercy extends to those who fear Him from generation to generation. You have to believe in the true Christ, not the counterfeit one's. Mormon's and JW's say the same thing, yet they believe in another Jesus and another gospel. As Paul said, there be gospels many and Lord's many.

If you are practicing and engaging in the beliefs and rituals of the RCC, then God is calling you and other to come out of her, because she is Mystery, Babylon the great.
I agree 100%, Roman Catholicism has a different Jesus Than The Holy Bible Explains, Just As Mormons, JW'S, and the rest of the cults.

Catholic Salvation is found in the sacraments of the church, with Roman Catholicism falsely claiming the pope holds the key to the kingdom, big smiles!
 
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Yeah, that may very well be. However, these are the teachings of Roman Catholicism which you are claiming.

His mercy extends to those who fear Him from generation to generation. You have to believe in the true Christ, not the counterfeit one's. Mormon's and JW's say the same thing, yet they believe in another Jesus and another gospel. As Paul said, there be gospels many and Lord's many.

If you are practicing and engaging in the beliefs and rituals of the RCC, then God is calling you and other to come out of her, because she is Mystery, Babylon the great.
That's what you learned from others. You're perception of the Catholic Church is not your own it is what you were taught. It's an image easy to topple, serves a purpose.

Scriptures belong to a community given the promises of Christ. A community that held the deposit of Faith who would be in the world until He returned.
Scriptures testify to a Church that faithfully guards the Faith in Christ for 2000 years now.
There is alot more I could say but out of respect for my brothers and sisters in Christ here I will refrain
 

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That's what you learned from others. You're perception of the Catholic Church is not your own it is what you were taught. It's an image easy to topple, serves a purpose.

Scriptures belong to a community given the promises of Christ. A community that held the deposit of Faith who would be in the world until He returned.
Scriptures testify to a Church that faithfully guards the Faith in Christ for 2000 years now.
There is alot more I could say but out of respect for my brothers and sisters in Christ here I will refrain
I don't even believe Simon bar Jonas was ever in Rome .. But I've been told that all my life, or that he was crucified upside down ..
 

Truth7t7

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That's what you learned from others. You're perception of the Catholic Church is not your own it is what you were taught. It's an image easy to topple, serves a purpose.

Scriptures belong to a community given the promises of Christ. A community that held the deposit of Faith who would be in the world until He returned.
Scriptures testify to a Church that faithfully guards the Faith in Christ for 2000 years now.

There is alot more I could say but out of respect for my brothers and sisters in Christ here I will refrain
Roman Catholicism persecuted and tortured true Christianity, you ever hear of the Inquisition, and the torture chambers of the Dominican/Franciscan orders, thumb screws, the rack, the iron virgin, to mention a few, 100% Evil!

Have you not heard, Pope John Paul protected Boston's Cardinal, (Bernard Francis Law) as he ran to Vatican City for refuge from 400+ cases of child sexual abuse in the US, protected from extradition to face charges.

I will save you from the hundreds of other honorable mentions.

Hard to believe anyone could be a part of such an organization.
 

Ahwatukee

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That's what you learned from others.
That's an assumption on your part. I have been sitting at my desk in one place or another, with God's word in front of me, studying the word of God for the last 45 years. No man is my teacher.

You're perception of the Catholic Church is not your own it is what you were taught. It's an image easy to topple, serves a purpose.
I wasn't taught anything on them. It is by my own studies that I came to this conclusion. I live in the book of Revelation, as well as the whole word of God.

* The woman you saw is that great city that rules over the kings of the earth - Revelation 17:18

At the time that John was receiving this information from the angel, Rome was that city that ruled over the kings of the earth

* The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits.

The seven heads of the beast are symbolic representing seven hills upon which the woman. Therefore, the woman is the city of Rome which was literally built on and famous for her seven hills/mountains. This is pointing us to the headquarters of Rome's religious system. The reason why she is referred to as "Mystery, Babylon the Great" is because within here can be found most of all the pagan practices and rituals which stemmed from Babylon. Take that MITRE hat that the pope and the rest of the bishops wear. It is the same as the fish hats that the priest of Dagon wore with the open fish mouth at the top. Within the RCC we find queen of heaven worship (Mary), mother and son worship, Mithraism and many, many more. And as I mentioned, there is that Pagan obelisk from Hierapolis Egypt which is standing in the front entrance.

* She was dressed in purple and scarlet and glittering with gold

Purple and scarlet are the exact colors worn by the bishops and cardinals, respectively.

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Yes sir, I know who the woman is. I've studied this topic enough to know.

Scriptures belong to a community given the promises of Christ. A community that held the deposit of Faith who would be in the world until He returned.

Scriptures testify to a Church that faithfully guards the Faith in Christ for 2000 years now.
There is a lot more I could say but out of respect for my brothers and sisters in Christ here I will refrain
Satan always creates counterfeits to deceive. If the RCC were the true church, what they believe and teach would have to agree with scripture, which it does not.

Personally from what I have studied and what I see, one of the future popes will most likely play the part of the false prophet, who will be performing miracles, signs and wonders on behalf of the antichrist to give him credibility to his claim of being God.

There is no teaching that there would be one man over the entire church, but only pastors over individual churches.

The pope and the RCC believe that all should come under the authority of the pope, which is also not scriptural. The pope's used to control kings and their armies under the threat of excommunication. Anyone who resisted the pope's were labeled as heretics, imprisoned, property confiscated, tortured and many burned at the stake. Those who will be here during the time of God's wrath, will see the true face of the office of the pope and the RCC, because the antichrist will provide the power and authority to the pope and his pagan system during that time.

Now, I am not saying that you are not in Christ. But I would suggest abandoning everything that Roman Catholicism believes and practices and trust in Jesus and His word, only. This means that since the teachings of the RCC are not in agreement with the word of God, then flee from them.

I heard a saying once, which I agree with which says, "It is not enough to know what is right, but what is almost right."

Roman Catholicism teaches the name of Jesus, but they also teach Mary as a co-redeemer and mediator, to pray to her using the rosary and that she is full of grace. They make statues of her.

Mary was blessed of God, written of by Isaiah as that virgin chosen to bring God into the world in a human body. And no one can take that away from her. However, that is where it should end.

My prayer for you is that God will reveal this to you, so that you can cut your ties with that pagan system and trust in Christ and His words only.
 
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Roman Catholicism persecuted and tortured true Christianity, you ever hear of the Inquisition, and the torture chambers of the Dominican/Franciscan orders, thumb screws, the rack, the iron virgin, to mention a few, 100% Evil!

Have you not heard, Pope John Paul protected Boston's Cardinal, (Bernard Francis Law) as he ran to Vatican City for refuge from 400+ cases of child sexual abuse in the US, protected from extradition to face charges.

I will save you from the hundreds of other honorable mentions.

Hard to believe anyone could be a part of such an organization.
I'm attracted to the teaching and the Sacramental life. Bad behavior has no effect on either.
 
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That's an assumption on your part. I have been sitting at my desk in one place or another, with God's word in front of me, studying the word of God for the last 45 years. No man is my teacher.



I wasn't taught anything on them. It is by my own studies that I came to this conclusion. I live in the book of Revelation, as well as the whole word of God.

* The woman you saw is that great city that rules over the kings of the earth - Revelation 17:18

At the time that John was receiving this information from the angel, Rome was that city that ruled over the kings of the earth

* The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits.

The seven heads of the beast are symbolic representing seven hills upon which the woman. Therefore, the woman is the city of Rome which was literally built on and famous for her seven hills/mountains. This is pointing us to the headquarters of Rome's religious system. The reason why she is referred to as "Mystery, Babylon the Great" is because within here can be found most of all the pagan practices and rituals which stemmed from Babylon. Take that MITRE hat that the pope and the rest of the bishops wear. It is the same as the fish hats that the priest of Dagon wore with the open fish mouth at the top. Within the RCC we find queen of heaven worship (Mary), mother and son worship, Mithraism and many, many more. And as I mentioned, there is that Pagan obelisk from Hierapolis Egypt which is standing in the front entrance.

* She was dressed in purple and scarlet and glittering with gold

Purple and scarlet are the exact colors worn by the bishops and cardinals, respectively.

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Yes sir, I know who the woman is. I've studied this topic enough to know.



Satan always creates counterfeits to deceive. If the RCC were the true church, what they believe and teach would have to agree with scripture, which it does not.

Personally from what I have studied and what I see, one of the future popes will most likely play the part of the false prophet, who will be performing miracles, signs and wonders on behalf of the antichrist to give him credibility to his claim of being God.

There is no teaching that there would be one man over the entire church, but only pastors over individual churches.

The pope and the RCC believe that all should come under the authority of the pope, which is also not scriptural. The pope's used to control kings and their armies under the threat of excommunication. Anyone who resisted the pope's were labeled as heretics, imprisoned, property confiscated, tortured and many burned at the stake. Those who will be here during the time of God's wrath, will see the true face of the office of the pope and the RCC, because the antichrist will provide the power and authority to the pope and his pagan system during that time.

Now, I am not saying that you are not in Christ. But I would suggest abandoning everything that Roman Catholicism believes and practices and trust in Jesus and His word, only. This means that since the teachings of the RCC are not in agreement with the word of God, then flee from them.

I heard a saying once, which I agree with which says, "It is not enough to know what is right, but what is almost right."

Roman Catholicism teaches the name of Jesus, but they also teach Mary as a co-redeemer and mediator, to pray to her using the rosary and that she is full of grace. They make statues of her.

Mary was blessed of God, written of by Isaiah as that virgin chosen to bring God into the world in a human body. And no one can take that away from her. However, that is where it should end.

My prayer for you is that God will reveal this to you, so that you can cut your ties with that pagan system and trust in Christ and His words only.
Really, I'm familiar with the standard anti-Catholic distortions. The truth you glean from scriptures is distorted by the need to believe the Gospel taught since the beginning is wrong. Not all non Catholics suffer that, some more than others. It causes alot of unnecessary either or arguments.
 

Ahwatukee

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I'm attracted to the teaching and the Sacramental life. Bad behavior has no effect on either.
That is another example of what I am talking about my friend. The performing of sacraments is nowhere mentioned in scripture, at all, much less as a way of forgiveness for sin. In fact, I did a search on the word 'sacraments' and I got no hits on it.

According to the word of God, a believer is to go directly to God the Father in prayer in the name of His Son. For it is written "when we sin, if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us of all unrighteousness." No sacraments or priests needed.
 

Ahwatukee

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Really, I'm familiar with the standard anti-Catholic distortions. The truth you glean from scriptures is distorted by the need to believe the Gospel taught since the beginning is wrong. Not all non Catholics suffer that, some more than others. It causes alot of unnecessary either or arguments.
There is nothing distorted about what I have posted, for they are the exact scriptures. I have only opened them up to you.

As I said, anyone who is following the practices and beliefs of Roman Catholicism, are following after pagan beliefs stemming from Babylon and is believing in another Jesus and another gospel.

By the way, I noticed that you haven't given an answer as to why there is an 82 ft. pagan obelisk out the entrance way to what is supposed to be the true church. God is certainly not glorified nor honored by having that pagan object there.

"Come out of her, My people, so that you will not share in her sins or contract any of her plagues. For her sins are piled up to heaven,
and God has remembered her iniquities."

I've revealed the woman who is dressed in purple and scarlet as referring to her bishops and cardinals as wearing the very same colors. Identified that city that ruled over the kings of the earth as being Rome. That she (that city) sits on seven hills, which Rome was built upon. And yet you reject the truth.
 
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That is another example of what I am talking about my friend. The performing of sacraments is nowhere mentioned in scripture, at all, much less as a way of forgiveness for sin. In fact, I did a search on the word 'sacraments' and I got no hits on it.

According to the word of God, a believer is to go directly to God the Father in prayer in the name of His Son. For it is written "when we sin, if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us of all unrighteousness." No sacraments or priests needed.
The Sacraments are in Scripture. Baptism, the Eucharist, Marriage, Holy Orders. These are established by Christ. They are done in obedience to Christ and The Holy Spirit responds. Your opinion doesn't change that.
It's like you saying that water you have won't quench your thirst only this water can. Meanwhile our thirst is quenched.


Paganism didn't contaminate the Catholic Gospel, Paganism was conquered by Christ. That's the undistorted meaning of the obelisk. It has a cross on top of it.

You project my friend
 

Ahwatukee

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The Sacraments are in Scripture. Baptism, the Eucharist, Marriage, Holy Orders.
Those are never referred to as sacraments in scripture and performing them certainly can't save anyone. Those are Roman Catholic teachings, not the word of God.

In addition, the breaking of bread has two elements to it, the bread and the wine, which symbolically represents the body and blood of Christ, respectively. This is another issue in that, the RCC teaches that when one partakes of the Eucharist, they they are literally eating the flesh and blood of the Lord Jesus, which is false. It is a symbolic observance of Christ's body that was broken for us and His blood that was shed for us. When we break bread, Christ does not come down into the Eucharist as transubstantiation teaches. We are not eating the Lord's literal body nor drinking His literal blood.

Paganism didn't contaminate the Catholic Gospel, Paganism was conquered by Christ. That's the undistorted meaning of the obelisk. It has a cross on top of it.
Wow! What a good explanation for that pagan obelisk sitting out in the middle of St. Peter's square! Oh, so it is ok to have a pagan obelisk as long as there is a cross on it. It's just one apologetic after another.

You project my friend
I don't project anything. My conclusions are based on pure scripture, which you continue to reject.

That said, when you see the true church removed from the earth, the next thing will be a very charismatic ruler who will make a seven year covenant with Israel, allowing them to build their temple. Then you will know that what I have told you was the truth. Then you will see a false prophet arise who will perform miracles, signs and wonders on behalf of that ruler in order to give him credibility in regards to his claim of being God. That false prophet will be one of your future popes. He is also the one who is going to cause all people to receive that mark and to make an image of that ruler, which is the abomination spoken of in Daniel 9:27.

You don't have to believe it, just watch it happen after the true church is gone.

You are a perfect example as to why so many are deceived. You make up apologetics instead of believing the truth.
 
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is a symbolic observance of Christ's body that was broken for us and His blood that was shed for
Thats not a hard teaching.

John 6:61
61 Many therefore of his disciples, hearing it, said: This saying is hard, and who can hear it?


Jesus lost most of His followers because of the bread of life sermon.

They wouldn't leave if Jesus told them 'hey I meant I'm the bread symbolically. C'mon man.

The Jews would have been fine with it.

Then stated only those drawn by His Father come to Him.

The ones who didn't like the bread of life discourse were not drawn by the Father according to Jesus
 
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don't project anything. My conclusions are based on pure scripture, which you continue
I'm rejecting Scriptures? That stone will come down on your head.
Here is the problem discerning scriptures you're having.

Are you able to distinguish your interpretation of Scriptures from Scriptures themselves?

You lump the two together as if they are the same.

You seem to believe that rejecting your opinion on the meaning of scripture is rejecting Scripture themselves.

You are rejecting the Word and putting your ego in its place

"If you don't believe me you don't believe the bible. You think.

And again

I'm telling you the truth, don't you believe the Word of God?

I'll bet you've said that.
 

Truth7t7

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I'm rejecting Scriptures? That stone will come down on your head.
Here is the problem discerning scriptures you're having.

Are you able to distinguish your interpretation of Scriptures from Scriptures themselves?

You lump the two together as if they are the same.

You seem to believe that rejecting your opinion on the meaning of scripture is rejecting Scripture themselves.

You are rejecting the Word and putting your ego in its place

"If you don't believe me you don't believe the bible. You think.

And again

I'm telling you the truth, don't you believe the Word of God?

I'll bet you've said that.
One thing I know, when a Catholic priest pours the wine containing alcohol in the cup, and puts the wafer bread on the plate

After his prayer, it's still wine containing alcohol, and a wafer bread.

Transubstantiation is a tool used to keep Catholics in bondage, like a fast talker selling snake oil for a cure.

Perhaps the priest below, was intoxicated with alcohol from the wine in the cup on Sunday July 14th 2019

Priest charged with drunken driving arraigned

Aug 1, 2019

WARWICK, R.I. (AP) — A Roman Catholic priest from Rhode Island police say was driving drunk when he struck and injured a pedestrian was allowed to remain free on $10,000 bond at his arraignment.

The 38-year-old Ploch was arrested July 14 after police say he struck a pedestrian in Warwick. Police say his blood-alcohol content was higher than .15%.