Chosen by God - A study in Election

[throughfaith]

Converted sinners ARE Saints. I don't see your point really.

My point is God predestines a believer After conversion not to be converted .

 

[throughfaith]

There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that people are chosen to be saved before they exist. This is perfectly clear from both the Old Testament and New Testament.

Then give one verse for your claim that we are predestined to be saved and explain why you think so ?

 

[lenna]

1) I am not a Calvinist so-called.
2) The blasphemy I'm speaking of is the denial of the clear teaching of the plain text of Scripture pertaining to foreordination, God's choice, and predestination.

denying Calvinism, which is exactly what you believe and quote from, is not blasphemy

shame that you pass over my post regarding Who really saves and how and just continue your misadventure in Calvinism

you want us to believe that your beliefs are straight from scripture so you state you are not a Calvinist

sorry, but you have expressed yourself in many ways that prove that is exactly what you are

stating that not believing in TULIP is blasphemy is a scare tactic of Calvinists in an attempt to convert people to your beliefs

you should be ashamed

 

[EleventhHour]

denying Calvinism, which is exactly what you believe and quote from, is not blasphemy

shame that you pass over my post regarding Who really saves and how and just continue your misadventure in Calvinism

you want us to believe that your beliefs are straight from scripture so you state you are not a Calvinist

sorry, but you have expressed yourself in many ways that prove that is exactly what you are

stating that not believing in TULIP is blasphemy is a scare tactic of Calvinists in an attempt to convert people to your beliefs

you should be ashamed

They do seek out to make converts that is for sure.

 

[lenna]

They do seek out to make converts that is for sure.

so stating that he is not a Calvinist and that everything he believes is straight from the Bible and he just believes scripture, is very deceptive and simply not so

and stating not believing is blasphemy, is a scare tactic IMO

disgusting behavior!

 

[dcontroversal]

In the modern vernacular.... Calvinism >>>> "SOME Lives Matter"

Yet God states otherwise, He does not deny or withhold salvation

I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who is CHOSEN than over ninety-nine unlucky suckers not chosen.
Luke 15:9

Note their version above!


The verbiage of the bible even contradicts Calvineresy....<-new word.....

 

[dcontroversal]

so stating that he is not a Calvinist and that everything he believes is straight from the Bible and he just believes scripture, is very deceptive and simply not so

and stating not believing is blasphemy, is a scare tactic IMO

disgusting behavior!

Everyone of them is contextually dishonest and make false accusations regularly........but hey...guess it is the fruit they boast about....!

 

[cv5]

Then give one verse for your claim that we are predestined to be saved and explain why you think so ?

Here you go. I have to run out to get some groceries with my wife be back soon.

Gal 1:15-16
But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace,
was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with anyone;

Jer 1:5
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I set you apart and appointed you a prophet to the nations."

 

[eternally-gratefull]

actually we should care as Calvinists quote MacArthur and seem to be quite in love with him

besides, the video I linked to makes the errors of Calvinism more than apparent and MacArthur cannot even explain why the discrepancies so there is nothing left for the Calvinists to do but mock or belittle

I do not particularly care what people outside of this chat room think. Non of ya should. It should be a discussion about what we think

 

[eternally-gratefull]

even better

these folks want to teach that the Holy Spirit regenerates UNBELIEVERS and then saves them

that is backwards. utterly without merit and not found in scripture

He who is dead in sin is made alive in sin so he can believe and be justified.

Nope does Not work

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You are going to have to prove that Paul, John the Baptist and Jeremiah (and so many others) were not the beneficiaries of irresistible grace.

Gods grace is offered to all. If it was irresistible no one would reject it

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Answer me one question: Did the apostles choose Christ or did Christ choose them?

If they did not receive his grace freely they never would have been apostles

 

[throughfaith]

Here you go. I have to run out to get some groceries with my wife be back soon.

Gal 1:15-16
But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace,
was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with anyone;

Jer 1:5
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I set you apart and appointed you a prophet to the nations."

Are you Paul or Jeremiah ? What's your point ?Bible study is not your strong point yet is it ?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Absolutely correct!
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/3-15.htm
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/3-16.htm

Wrong
it says everyone believing was given eternal life

Another way to say that in English is whoever believes as apposed to those who do not believe

 

[eternally-gratefull]

1) I am not a Calvinist so-called.
2) The blasphemy I'm speaking of is the denial of the clear teaching of the plain text of Scripture pertaining to foreordination, God's choice, and predestination.

Yet your in denial of the truth if that teaching because you have a different view
practice what you preach

 

[eternally-gratefull]

My point is God predestines a believer After conversion not to be converted .

He predestined according to their conversion not after

 

[lenna]

I do not particularly care what people outside of this chat room think. Non of ya should. It should be a discussion about what we think

well I disagree with you there

the op is using an outside link, 3 in fact, so how can the discussion remain within the chat

it's not like there is no life outside the forum

 

[eternally-gratefull]

well I disagree with you there

the op is using an outside link, 3 in fact, so how can the discussion remain within the chat

it's not like there is no life outside the forum

Then we are stuck on n a status quo and will never be able to help each other

 

[throughfaith]

He predestined according to their conversion not after

Could you explain what you mean ?

 

[cv5]

Are you Paul or Jeremiah ? What's your point ?Bible study is not your strong point yet is it ?

Lol. You asked a specific question, received an answer. Then promptly dismissed the Scriptures then insulted me. Ooohhh kaaay.