Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

J-T

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Wow, took me less than a minute....
" Gates is not interested in using vaccines to reduce the population by using them as an agent of death or a tool to sterilize unsuspecting masses. Rather, Gates..... SNIPPET....

In 1997, when he and Melinda first ventured into public health … they focused on birth control, funding a Johns Hopkins effort to use computers to help women in the developing world learn about contraception. The logic was crisp and Bill Gates-friendly. Health = resources ÷ people. And since resources, as Gates noted, are relatively fixed, the answer lay in population control...... SNIPPET....

The facts about this misinformation have been clearly available since 2017 and yet you have chosen to dishonestly twist Bill Gates intended meaning by not letting people know that he wants to keep kids ALIVE in these third world countries as a method of reducing population clearly stated from his own words in the explanation above is purposely left out would make you a liar and a false brother if you were knowingly doing so. I am going to think that best about you and assume you have not read these above explanations by Bill Gates as to his theory on keeping children alive with vaccines will ultimately reduce the world population. :)
Jocus Pokus slanderous rubbish! There is no way that you can find the facts about Bill Gates is less than a minute. That is rash, irresponsible, and a very poor example of critical thinking and research. You are calling a Christian a false brother, whilst at the same time defending Bill Gates who is a Satanist. The irony here is that in spite of our disagreements, coupled with the fact that you refused to accept my invitation to where I would introduce to Illuminati and Freemasons, and so forth to expose the Occult agenda against the King James Bible and so forth; Not to mention that I would have shared so much more information, even relating to this subject, I have not referred to you as being a false brother. There is hypocrisy in your remark of calling a Christian a false brother, as it is also wrong and erroneous judgement. A false brother is someone that proves to be believing, following, preaching, and teaching another god, and/or a false Christ. I have yet to test you completely out as to what doctrinal positions you truly hold. Until I do, I will not be reckless and careless so as to call you a false brother. One thing is obvious, and that is that you take the world's words over Christian's words, and that is a serious red flag.
 

PennEd

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Wow, took me less than a minute....
" Gates is not interested in using vaccines to reduce the population by using them as an agent of death or a tool to sterilize unsuspecting masses. Rather, Gates is interested in keeping more children alive in order to reduce the need for parents to have more children, thus limiting the overall population growth rate."
If this isn’t the stupidest thing I’ve read in a month of Mondays I give up!

So the goal is to keep more children alive so they won’t have any more?!

It’s almost too silly to even say.

Cmon guy! You can’t buy that!

His father was intimately involved with Margaret Sanger and her eugenecist beliefs and founder of planned parenthood. Gates injured and sterilized untold numbers of Africans and Indians with his experimental vaccines. He stated he wants to reduce the pop by way over a billion.

This is the guy you want to hang your hat on?

Why?
 

J-T

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What if you are wrong? Would you then be in violation of the scripture about judging someones motives and being wrong about it?
Have you done a study on these scriptures? Do you think you would be guilty of this sin Jesus is speaking of if you were to say Bill Gates is donating money to a vaccine because he wants to ..... fill in the blank with any bad motive... and then find out later that you were wrong. Would you need to repent? Just answer that question please.
I know with absolute certainty that I'm not wrong. It is a fact that Bill Gates and his wife are Satanists. You refused the offer I had made to you, so now you must do your own homework. I would suggest that you begin by listening to Christians instead of listening to the world.
 

posthuman

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If this isn’t the stupidest thing I’ve read in a month of Mondays I give up!

So the goal is to keep more children alive so they won’t have any more?!

It’s almost too silly to even say.

Cmon guy! You can’t buy that!
when there is a high mortality rate, one strategy for survival is to have lots of children so that even though most of them do not live long, you increase the number that do. a second strategy is to improve the mortality rate.

when you take a snapshot of the population at any given time under the first strategy, you have a higher population than you do under the second strategy, because in scenario one a proportion of the population are children who will die early. the argument is that by reducing infant mortality you can effect a reduction of birthrate. it's made under the presumption that people will be less likely to populate beyond the means of their resources if it's more likely that their children will survive to use those resources, than they will to overpopulate beyond the means of the same resources when they do not expect most of their children to survive long enough to use those resources.

the idea is that an archer who shoots inaccurately is more likely to use more arrows than an archer who is accurate. send them both out on a hunt and one uses 10 arrows to bring back meat and the other uses 3 to bring back the same meat. if you're trying to conserve arrows, you want to arm & train your hunter well.
 

J-T

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o i see, yeah - yes we all know Windows® comes from the pit :unsure:
Aside from that fact that there are things about Bill Gates that you won't see published by the fake News Media, there are a few clues that you can start with such as his wife wearing an upsidedown inverted cross; Bill Gate's decision to sell the first Apple Computer for $666; Along with the symbol of the Apple with the bite being representive of Adam and Eve's fall, having been deceived by Lucifer in the Garden of Eden. Not to mention that the "micro-chip" was developed in Masonic Bio-Genetic Labs. There's a lot more to this man and those that he is involved with than what meets the eye. I don't know about you, but I will never take a vaccine that is being heavily pushed by Satanists. Have you ever considered the side-effects of Risperdal that cause so many men and young boys to grow female breasts, and put two and two together to see how that fits in with the transgender/transhumism agenda, of which relates the to transgendered images of idols such as Baphomet, Buddha, Pan, and others just like them, to see how this is all a push that will ultimately lead to the worship of the beast during the Great Tribulation with the taking of the mark of the beast which is 666? Do you really want to be a guinea pig for their "vaccine" not knowing what any of the side effects, maliciously intended or not, will be? There's another drug that I can't remember the name of that cause men to develop gangrene in the manhood. There are countless other examples of how harmful drugs are, not to mention the world-wide addiction epidemic. I say Trust in God, not in men, and most especially not in Devil worshipping Satanists such as Bill Gates and his counterparts.

P.S. Have you ever paused to ponder how it will be that the Antichrist will cause all men great and small to take his mark? Have you consider the digital cameras, such as the millions set up in Communist China, and being set up in the rest of the world, as well as the drones, and other technologies? Who will have control over the Internet and all of the various "technological advances" including Micosoft's Windows?

Have you also considered other real time events such as the Church of Satan being given 501c3 Tax Status by the I.R.S. as well as their being given a voice in the Government that used to be made up of born again Christians? Not to mention their campaign to remove anything Christian, such as the Ten Commandments and crosses, to be replaced with the image of the idol of Baphomet and other Satanic things? What about Drag Queen Story Hour? Do these things seem 'normal' to you? Can you not see where this world is headed?
 

PennEd

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when there is a high mortality rate, one strategy for survival is to have lots of children so that even though most of them do not live long, you increase the number that do. a second strategy is to improve the mortality rate.
If they don’t live long, then you have ALREADY achieved your goal of a smaller family. If a vaccine theoretically keeps more alive, then they will have MORE children.

Also, the reason they have large families is because they are poor and mostly agrarian.

But you MUST look at the motivation behind wanting them to be vaccinated. It is not for humanitarian purposes, but to stop global warming, and the hatred they have towards “inferior “ people consuming THEIR resources.
 

posthuman

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If they don’t live long, then you have ALREADY achieved your goal of a smaller family. If a vaccine theoretically keeps more alive, then they will have MORE children.

Also, the reason they have large families is because they are poor and mostly agrarian.

But you MUST look at the motivation behind wanting them to be vaccinated. It is not for humanitarian purposes, but to stop global warming, and the hatred they have towards “inferior “ people consuming THEIR resources.
i'm making neither endorsements nor criticisms; i didn't mean anything but to explain how the logic of that argument works.

you make the assumption that an arbitrary family's birth rate is independent of their mortality rate. the argument assumes that they are not independent.
 

PennEd

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i'm making neither endorsements nor criticisms; i didn't mean anything but to explain how the logic of that argument works.

you make the assumption that an arbitrary family's birth rate is independent of their mortality rate. the argument assumes that they are not independent.
I hear ya. I’m just saying it’s vital to understand the motivation behind the vaccination push.

If Mr Gates wanted to actually bring down 3rd world birth rates, and make Incredible strides in making their lives better, don’t you think the proven methods of economic growth, food security, and education would be a faaaar better approach than experimenting with them through vaccines?

Think of the difference his billions could make if he really cared about these people.

No. His concern is reducing human population because they are contributing to global warming and using resources that he thinks are rightly his and other elites.
 

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The countries that did what Dr. Fauci advised are flourishing. Unfortunately, The US did'nt,
this is the reason I am not going to school in the fall and they are. And the tragedies that you are speaking of have been a problem here in the US for decades upon decades here. And by the time that the Feds decided to distribute materials needed, The President convinced his people that they did'nt need it. Anyhow, It's too late for us. I'm just praying every day for the cure for this mess.
Ultimately, Jesus is the cure for this mess.
 

posthuman

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If Mr Gates wanted to actually bring down 3rd world birth rates, and make Incredible strides in making their lives better, don’t you think the proven methods of economic growth, food security, and education would be a faaaar better approach than experimenting with them through vaccines?
i do agree that things like water quality and food availability are far more important for a healthy & productive population -- a lot of disease is spread through bad water & food, a person's immune system is better suited to naturally reduce infection rates when they are well sheltered & nourished, and equally importantly people can simply do more when they don't have to spend big chunks of their time securing those basic needs.

:)
 

ev4989

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It may sound to be a conspiracy theory but I've learned from the Lord that everything that's forced upon people by top scientists, governments or rulers in this world does NOT come from the Lord.

The vaccine may or may not work for everybody but I'm afraid that there's a crafty plan behind it.
Do you guys know that the science is advanced enough to create nano-trackers that can be injected in the blood stream? This tiny nano device functions as a tracker. Which means wherever you go you can be tracked down by intelligence agencies.

This info has come from one of my schoolmates who works in a hospital and is involved in medical science.


I just want to warn you brothers and sisters in Christ: BE ATTENTIVE AND CAUTIOUS WHAT YOU ACCEPT! Pray to the Father in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ if this vaccine is safe and beneficial for you.
What would the C,I,A. have to do with any citizen. T
hey deal with world issues and make
Ultimately, Jesus is the cure for this mess.
One thing is for certain. It is'nt President Trump...
 
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If this isn’t the stupidest thing I’ve read in a month of Mondays I give up!

So the goal is to keep more children alive so they won’t have any more?!

It’s almost too silly to even say.

Cmon guy! You can’t buy that!

His father was intimately involved with Margaret Sanger and her eugenecist beliefs and founder of planned parenthood. Gates injured and sterilized untold numbers of Africans and Indians with his experimental vaccines. He stated he wants to reduce the pop by way over a billion.

This is the guy you want to hang your hat on?

Why?
I am not saying I agree with the idea that the worlds population needs to be controlled. I believe people are the worlds greatest assets and there is no real danger of not having enough food, or space or harming it by too many people. You never know what one person will invent or help develop that will solve the problems that people are afraid of.

My main point was that Bill Gates was not saying we should kill people with vaccines. That the video and other like it were purposely leaving out his theory on keeping more children alive and making it sound like he wants to kill people with vaccines and they know that they are twisting it that is why they leave his full explanation out of their videos and clips. Now that you have his own full explanation you can call him a nut job for his theories about how saving children will keep thier parents from having extra babies because they are sure some will die of diseases that they will no longer be afraid of, but you can no longer say that he planned to kill people with vaccines. You can say that but everyone will know you are making it up. :)

I won this round, you can let me know that you concede at Scribewon.net :)
 
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Jocus Pokus slanderous rubbish! There is no way that you can find the facts about Bill Gates is less than a minute. That is rash, irresponsible, and a very poor example of critical thinking and research. You are calling a Christian a false brother, whilst at the same time defending Bill Gates who is a Satanist. The irony here is that in spite of our disagreements, coupled with the fact that you refused to accept my invitation to where I would introduce to Illuminati and Freemasons, and so forth to expose the Occult agenda against the King James Bible and so forth; Not to mention that I would have shared so much more information, even relating to this subject, I have not referred to you as being a false brother. There is hypocrisy in your remark of calling a Christian a false brother, as it is also wrong and erroneous judgement. A false brother is someone that proves to be believing, following, preaching, and teaching another god, and/or a false Christ. I have yet to test you completely out as to what doctrinal positions you truly hold. Until I do, I will not be reckless and careless so as to call you a false brother. One thing is obvious, and that is that you take the world's words over Christian's words, and that is a serious red flag.
Ever heard of Snopes.com? less than 5 seconds I found the information about these video clips being used and what Bill Gates has said in interviews. And the information I posted.

IF one is willfully spreading something they know is a lie they are being a liar and that is not being a christian. I assume the best of the poster that he did not know about Bill Gates full explanation and believed the video clips that suggest something sinister. Now that we know what Bill Gates has explained about his theory on vaccines being instrumental in reducing population by keeping children alive and if we then lie to people and say that Bill Gates wants to kill people with vaccines, and that he said so, then we would be known and willing liars and that all ends in the lake of Fire. From any version of the bible you please. :) You are welcome for posting what Bill Gates really said. I know you appreciate the whole story and are not wanting to be a willful liar or be guilty of spreading lies because you were tricked by dishonest video clips.
 
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Aside from that fact that there are things about Bill Gates that you won't see published by the fake News Media, there are a few clues that you can start with such as his wife wearing an upsidedown inverted cross; Bill Gate's decision to sell the first Apple Computer for $666; Along with the symbol of the Apple with the bite being representive of Adam and Eve's fall, having been deceived by Lucifer in the Garden of Eden. Not to mention that the "micro-chip" was developed in Masonic Bio-Genetic Labs. There's a lot more to this man and those that he is involved with than what meets the eye. I don't know about you, but I will never take a vaccine that is being heavily pushed by Satanists. Have you ever considered the side-effects of Risperdal that cause so many men and young boys to grow female breasts, and put two and two together to see how that fits in with the transgender/transhumism agenda, of which relates the to transgendered images of idols such as Baphomet, Buddha, Pan, and others just like them, to see how this is all a push that will ultimately lead to the worship of the beast during the Great Tribulation with the taking of the mark of the beast which is 666? Do you really want to be a guinea pig for their "vaccine" not knowing what any of the side effects, maliciously intended or not, will be? There's another drug that I can't remember the name of that cause men to develop gangrene in the manhood. There are countless other examples of how harmful drugs are, not to mention the world-wide addiction epidemic. I say Trust in God, not in men, and most especially not in Devil worshipping Satanists such as Bill Gates and his counterparts.

P.S. Have you ever paused to ponder how it will be that the Antichrist will cause all men great and small to take his mark? Have you consider the digital cameras, such as the millions set up in Communist China, and being set up in the rest of the world, as well as the drones, and other technologies? Who will have control over the Internet and all of the various "technological advances" including Micosoft's Windows?

Have you also considered other real time events such as the Church of Satan being given 501c3 Tax Status by the I.R.S. as well as their being given a voice in the Government that used to be made up of born again Christians? Not to mention their campaign to remove anything Christian, such as the Ten Commandments and crosses, to be replaced with the image of the idol of Baphomet and other Satanic things? What about Drag Queen Story Hour? Do these things seem 'normal' to you? Can you not see where this world is headed?
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tourist

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What would the C,I,A. have to do with any citizen. T
hey deal with world issues and make


One thing is for certain. It is'nt President Trump...
I would not be too sure about President Trump because God appoints all of those in authority whether it is a city, state, or country to fulfill a specific purpose. God may or may not approve of any president but He has appointed each and everyone. He has also appointed all those in power in other countries as well.
 

ev4989

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I would not be too sure about President Trump because God appoints all of those in authority whether it is a city, state, or country to fulfill a specific purpose. God may or may not approve of any president but He has appointed each and everyone. He has also appointed all those in power in other countries as well.
Wow. If that were true, Why were you all not there for President Obama? This is all anyone here's about " God appointed Trump" Never a word about this when Mr Obama was in office
and He actually worked for the American people.
 

tourist

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Wow. If that were true, Why were you all not there for President Obama? This is all anyone here's about " God appointed Trump" Never a word about this when Mr Obama was in office
and He actually worked for the American people.
Actually, I'm not all there for any president lately but Trump has tapped into the discontent of ordinary people struggling to survive. His actions of reducing government interference, in businesses in particular created millions of new jobs. Unlike his predecessor he doesn't apologize to the entire world for America. He made America great again and will lead the effort for America to rise from the ashes of ruin in the economy due to the pandemic.

It is a scriptural fact that God appoints all of those in positions of authority whether they are perceived as good or bad. God did in fact appoint Trump. If He choses He will appoint Biden. God help the USA if that were to happen. His presidency will be an ultimate disaster for this country. And I thought that Hillary was bad. Joe has her beat. He has lost his marbles too. There will be discontent.
 

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Aside from that fact that there are things about Bill Gates that you won't see published by the fake News Media, there are a few clues that you can start with such as his wife wearing an upsidedown inverted cross; Bill Gate's decision to sell the first Apple Computer for $666; Along with the symbol of the Apple with the bite being representive of Adam and Eve's fall, having been deceived by Lucifer in the Garden of Eden. Not to mention that the "micro-chip" was developed in Masonic Bio-Genetic Labs. There's a lot more to this man and those that he is involved with than what meets the eye. I don't know about you, but I will never take a vaccine that is being heavily pushed by Satanists. Have you ever considered the side-effects of Risperdal that cause so many men and young boys to grow female breasts, and put two and two together to see how that fits in with the transgender/transhumism agenda, of which relates the to transgendered images of idols such as Baphomet, Buddha, Pan, and others just like them, to see how this is all a push that will ultimately lead to the worship of the beast during the Great Tribulation with the taking of the mark of the beast which is 666? Do you really want to be a guinea pig for their "vaccine" not knowing what any of the side effects, maliciously intended or not, will be? There's another drug that I can't remember the name of that cause men to develop gangrene in the manhood. There are countless other examples of how harmful drugs are, not to mention the world-wide addiction epidemic. I say Trust in God, not in men, and most especially not in Devil worshipping Satanists such as Bill Gates and his counterparts.

P.S. Have you ever paused to ponder how it will be that the Antichrist will cause all men great and small to take his mark? Have you consider the digital cameras, such as the millions set up in Communist China, and being set up in the rest of the world, as well as the drones, and other technologies? Who will have control over the Internet and all of the various "technological advances" including Micosoft's Windows?

Have you also considered other real time events such as the Church of Satan being given 501c3 Tax Status by the I.R.S. as well as their being given a voice in the Government that used to be made up of born again Christians? Not to mention their campaign to remove anything Christian, such as the Ten Commandments and crosses, to be replaced with the image of the idol of Baphomet and other Satanic things? What about Drag Queen Story Hour? Do these things seem 'normal' to you? Can you not see where this world is headed?
Woah slow down there.. Bill Gates never sold Apple computers..........
 

bojack

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Ever heard of Snopes.com? less than 5 seconds I found the information about these video clips being used and what Bill Gates has said in interviews. And the information I posted.

IF one is willfully spreading something they know is a lie they are being a liar and that is not being a christian. I assume the best of the poster that he did not know about Bill Gates full explanation and believed the video clips that suggest something sinister. Now that we know what Bill Gates has explained about his theory on vaccines being instrumental in reducing population by keeping children alive and if we then lie to people and say that Bill Gates wants to kill people with vaccines, and that he said so, then we would be known and willing liars and that all ends in the lake of Fire. From any version of the bible you please. :) You are welcome for posting what Bill Gates really said. I know you appreciate the whole story and are not wanting to be a willful liar or be guilty of spreading lies because you were tricked by dishonest video clips.
Snopes is a big lie ..