Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161
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Scribe

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#61
I think that the president has bought at least 100 million doses from at least 2 companies. We shouldn't run out of vaccine.
It is the Dept of Homeland Security I think, and it is more like 1 billion. That is just the beginning. They are already mass producing it in advance of the completion of the 3 Phase 30K human testing because they are that confident from the Phase 2 testing. As usual the US is going to be helping many other countries and poor people who do not have access to the same kinds of medical care that we are used to and that is why they will need so many doses. One of the reasons we are blessed as a nation is this human compassion to help vaccinate other nations whos children are not suffering from childhood diseases today as they were in their past history before we started helping them. This is one of the things that make me proud to be an American.
 

ev4989

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#62
They can try forcing vaccins on us, but that would just trigger my survival instinct. This program has been exposed and I do not take vaccins with human or animal cells in it. Nor do I buy anything tested on animals let alone stand on human beings.
These vaccins are tested in poor regions for a good reason. They can have it and their entire beastsystem.

I voted never. This world is killing my flesh anyway. Rather live short glorious then die old a coward.

I find it my duty as an American to wear a mask to keep others safe. I pray every day for the cure. Not only for the US, but for all people in the world. This way We won't have to worry
about getting infected or transmitting the virus to others. I will be first in line!
 
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#63
I find it my duty as an American to wear a mask to keep others safe. I pray every day for the cure. Not only for the US, but for all people in the world. This way We won't have to worry
about getting infected or transmitting the virus to others. I will be first in line!
Most have cured without any cure. I don’t trust them manifacturing the vaccins anymore. I just don’t and it is my right to refuse vaccins and maintain my liberties. If others want to get vaccinated, go ahead. But it can’t be forced unto others. I just can’t.
 

ev4989

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#64
Most have cured without any cure. I don’t trust them manifacturing the vaccins anymore. I just don’t and it is my right to refuse vaccins and maintain my liberties. If others want to get vaccinated, go ahead. But it can’t be forced unto others. I just can’t.
Most have cured without any cure. I don’t trust them manifacturing the vaccins anymore. I just don’t and it is my right to refuse vaccins and maintain my liberties. If others want to get vaccinated, go ahead. But it can’t be forced unto others. I just can’t.

Well, unfortunately, 163,000 did not. And you are correct. Don't take it. That was my point.
Once I get the cure I will have no worries being around you or anyone else that chooses not to get the cure...
 
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Well, unfortunately, 163,000 did not. And you are correct. Don't take it. That was my point.
Once I get the cure I will have no worries being around you or anyone else that chooses not to get the cure...
Have ye been given the spirit of fear?
 
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#66
Most have cured without any cure. I don’t trust them manifacturing the vaccins anymore. I just don’t and it is my right to refuse vaccins and maintain my liberties. If others want to get vaccinated, go ahead. But it can’t be forced unto others. I just can’t.
We are not supposed to allow kids that are not vaccinated to go to public schools, but we do anyway. I don't think anyone is going to force anyone to get a vaccine.
 
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I am getting very concerned that christians are supporting mandatory masking and vaccines. This is terrifying, you know both are from Satan , right? And so is this hoax? This virus is to help setup the new world order via the UN and the WHO. I wouldn't trust either as far as I could throw them, and yet here we have christians obeying Satan. That to be frank is terrifying.
 
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#69
This just in. Sort of matches the poll here on CC. ...
More than 1 in 3 Americans will refuse a COVID-19 vaccine: poll

https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-vaccine-poll


My guess is that when it is actually available at your neighborhood pharmacy, 80% will get it in within 4 months after it is available regardless of what they said before. Their will be widespread information about the vaccine being offered and those that said NO to an unknown today will say Yes once they are more informed. My prediction (based on my own world view) is that 80% or more Americans will get the vaccine if it is free and easy to receive. We'll See! I will check this post around March 2021 and update with available statistics at that time. :)
I am going to guess that schools will require it and some companies might require it to start working on campuses again. No one will be forced to take it.
If the vaccine is 100% safe I can guarantee you that there will be people who will spend countless hours creating persuasive videos starring actors with lab coats claiming that it is causing harm. And there will be money making scam artists who will attempt to discredit the vaccine and sell you their vegetable smoothie that they say really does make you immune instead. This will never end until Jesus comes and when all liars have their part in the lake of fire.
 
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#70
I am getting very concerned that christians are supporting mandatory masking and vaccines. This is terrifying, you know both are from Satan , right? And so is this hoax? This virus is to help setup the new world order via the UN and the WHO. I wouldn't trust either as far as I could throw them, and yet here we have christians obeying Satan. That to be frank is terrifying.
I am complying with the order of my Governor and he is not Satan.
While I believe this virus is overblown, so is this mask and vaccine thing.
I don't like wearing seat belts but it is the law and as a Christian I will abide with the law as long as it does not interfere with my Worship. My local church has not missed a single Sunday meeting .
 
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I am getting very concerned that christians are supporting mandatory masking and vaccines. This is terrifying, you know both are from Satan , right? And so is this hoax? This virus is to help setup the new world order via the UN and the WHO. I wouldn't trust either as far as I could throw them, and yet here we have christians obeying Satan. That to be frank is terrifying.
Personally I think that imagining that the virus is a hoax, masks and vaccines are all part of an group of evil planners, to establish a New World Order via the UN and the Who is an irrational world view. Do you think that most would be able to see your point of view or that most would worry about your mental state? Why would you be surprised that most are not going to agree with you?
 

ev4989

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#73
I am getting very concerned that christians are supporting mandatory masking and vaccines. This is terrifying, you know both are from Satan , right? And so is this hoax? This virus is to help setup the new world order via the UN and the WHO. I wouldn't trust either as far as I could throw them, and yet here we have christians obeying Satan. That to be frank is terrifying.
There is a CC member who's entire family was infected. What are you talking about???
 

soggykitten

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#74
This all is looking like at a 3D chess game at this point.
The more I look the more it appears what is happening now with regard to Covid 19, and the hype surrounding it these many months, could be like a Trojan horse. In that, while the reason for things being made compulsory or mandated, like masks in retail shops, the real purpose of this exploited horse is the advent of Authoritarianism globally.

Take California for instance. Yes, take it, please.

Jacobson v. Massachusetts a decision that went all the way to the highest court and during the Smallpox outbreak many years ago. Basically, in the event of a contagion risk like that of Smallpox, this decision in a nutshell states government can force compliance to receiving a vaccine when it is a matter of insuring public safety.


Five things to know now about California’s new vaccine law
September 2019
What does the new law do?

In California, children are required to be vaccinated, or have a medical exemption, to attend school. The new law creates a review process that gives public health officials the final say on those waivers, with the authority to reject them.


At a national level as pertains to vaccine compliance, this from the mid 1980's. "National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act in 1986 freed pharmaceutical companies from liability for injuries resulting from childhood vaccines—“no matter how toxic the ingredients, how negligent the manufacturer or how grievous the harm.”
Particularly interesting to me in that article is near its end.
Exporting the no-liability model
In 2016, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and the Wellcome Trust—the world’s two wealthiest charitable foundations and two of the biggest global funders of vaccine development and vaccine programs—teamed up with vaccine manufacturers and government partners from a variety of countries to launch the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI). According to a recent analysis in the Emory Law Journal, the blanket immunity ushered in by the NCVIA has been so successful for vaccine manufacturers that CEPI is looking to export it, creating “liability protection and compensation mechanisms based on the U.S. model for vaccine liability” around the world.


Maybe this is why we're being lied to about number of positives in testing for C 19, as well as fatality numbers. To produce something on the books that makes Covid 19 appear to be a public health crisis. And as such, allow authorities at the state and federal level to invoke these certain laws to mandate compliance to vaccination.


And the hurry up to create a vaccine, supposedly Russia already has one and news reports say Putin's daughter received this new vaccine, the pharmaceutical companies aren't liable if what they conjure up in a hurry does more harm than good. The supreme court upheld protecting the pharmaceutical companies. No surprise there. $$$$ Their opinion = http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf

2018
Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Protecting Vaccine Makers from State lawsuits
National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (NCVIA or Act) preempts all design-defect claims against vaccine manufacturers brought by plaintiffs seeking compensation for injury or death caused by a vaccine’s side effects.
 

Nehemiah6

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#75
I find it my duty as an American to wear a mask to keep others safe.
Your duty as an American is to see that Anthony Fauci is behind bars. This one man has single-handedly destroyed America. And that too under Trump's watch.

EVERYTHING about this Pandemic Hoax is bogus. CAVEAT EMPTOR!
 

Nehemiah6

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#76
Thumbs up for a safe and effective COVID-19 vaccine.
With Bill Gates and Fauci on the loose -- safe and effective???? (n)

The whole idea is to make UNSAFE AND INEFFECTIVE vaccines for the poor slobs who will believe everything coming from on high. Check out Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s crusade against bogus vaccines. And Trump was supposed to have him on board, and then ignored him.
 

ev4989

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#77
With Bill Gates and Fauci on the loose -- safe and effective???? (n)

The whole idea is to make UNSAFE AND INEFFECTIVE vaccines for the poor slobs who will believe everything coming from on high. Check out Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s crusade against bogus vaccines. And Trump was supposed to have him on board, and then ignored him.
Don't even go there. Had Mr. Trump did anything at all about this pandemic. I would be going back to school this fall. It is your thinking and people like you that has crippled
any chance for the US to move forward and I do take this personal. You are a simple little man.
 

ev4989

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#78
This just in. Sort of matches the poll here on CC. ...
More than 1 in 3 Americans will refuse a COVID-19 vaccine: poll

https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-vaccine-poll


My guess is that when it is actually available at your neighborhood pharmacy, 80% will get it in within 4 months after it is available regardless of what they said before. Their will be widespread information about the vaccine being offered and those that said NO to an unknown today will say Yes once they are more informed. My prediction (based on my own world view) is that 80% or more Americans will get the vaccine if it is free and easy to receive. We'll See! I will check this post around March 2021 and update with available statistics at that time. :)
I am going to guess that schools will require it and some companies might require it to start working on campuses again. No one will be forced to take it.
If the vaccine is 100% safe I can guarantee you that there will be people who will spend countless hours creating persuasive videos starring actors with lab coats claiming that it is causing harm. And there will be money making scam artists who will attempt to discredit the vaccine and sell you their vegetable smoothie that they say really does make you immune instead. This will never end until Jesus comes and when all liars have their part in the lake of fire.
I agree Scribe. Do you think that the people that lie jn here, know that they are lying. Or are they just really mentally ill?
 
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I agree Scribe. Do you think that the people that lie jn here, know that they are lying. Or are they just really mentally ill?
I can tell that you are upset. I have learned to not call people "idiots" in my heart. We must be patient with all men. God knows their motives.

I do believe that some people have seen videos and read articles that persuaded them and convinced them to think the way that they do. Or in other words, they are sincere in their views.

Some people are not intellectually honest and will not change their views even if they know that they are wrong because they are emotionally angry and their views are a mode of expressing that anger.

Some people are addicted to venting negative emotions and they also get some kind of "release of pent up irritation" by suggesting things that they expect will push buttons and cause a ruckus.

Mental illness is to vague a term and suggests an excuse, but we are all culpable for any impure motives that drive us to write what we write in these posts.

I doubt that those who posts the most unbelievable theories, that everyone would say is a sign of mental illness, are true believers in that theory. I think they are just hiding behind the keyboard of anonymity and trying to set off fireworks to see how far the explosives will burn.

Some are conspiracy hobbyists. They do it for entertainment. Truth is irrelevant, the more sensational the more entertaining. They tell themselves that "they don't mean any harm because they are just provoking thought."

And some do it because they think it is funny when others react. They are those who try to keep a straight face when telling you a tall tale to see if you will fall for it, but laugh and let you know they were kidding all along.

As far as those who really believe their irrational theories, I would rather attribute most cases to lack of information from real life, real world experience, so that they find things plausible that aren't because they do not understand how things really work. Once they were to work in the corporations they think are corrupt they would change their view. If they were to work for the CDC, or FDA, or as an immunologist or a virologist for a few years they would be embarrassed at the things they used to think. I am going to think the best of people until I have evidence for something more sinister.

What I have learned from this world wide crisis and all the chatter that has sprung up as a result, especially among my own church members, is not to let it cause us to be unkind or condescending toward those who believe things that we think are crazy talk. We have to be patient and extend kindness and pray for unity in the body of Christ. We have to be the examples that demonstrate that we are dressed in full armor and know the wiles of the enemy and how he would try to get Christians to act hateful toward one another over a disagreement about a vaccine. This must not stand. We have to lead during this time of chaos and demonstrate how to get along about the important things that bind us such as the Gospel message and reaching the lost. Like changing the subject when the strife seems imminent and talking about the real heart issues that we should be about instead.
 
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We are not supposed to allow kids that are not vaccinated to go to public schools, but we do anyway. I don't think anyone is going to force anyone to get a vaccine.
If I can’t travel without vaccin it is force. We just need to look at China to see what’s heading to the west. Western people are not that easy surpressed and need to be fed with fears or hate before justifying about anything. Wether it’s war or mandatory vaccination. In Belgium we already have 1 mandatory vaccin, I’m affraid corona will be the second.

She does not have the spirit of stupid. Sounds like she might have the spirit of "has enough sense to get in out of the rain."
Having read it again I might have replied to soon yesterday. I’m sorry for my earlier reaction @ev4989 . It just seemed to me you were hoping for a cure. Which will be the vaccin. After decades of science they still have no cure for the flu and the vaccins are not that effective as they say they are. Might even create worse reactions in the body. Bad reactions those vaccine manifactures of course know nothing about.