Does "loving God" include my works or just how I feel?

[Jackson123]

As long as we are in this flesh of ours, no one will able to love as God did.

That 1st and 2nd commandment of the Law of Moses is to make us turn to God and acknowledge that we cannot.

Thus, God showed us that he can, Jesus did the work of love required, and he graciously allow us to be credited with what he done, as the basis of our righteousness.

That is what I like to hear because I am not that level, but this is what Jesus say

John 15
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

If we abide in Him, the fruit that Jesus produce will manifest in us, not because our ability, but His ability.

We are not the producer Hi is, we only a bearer

 

[Guojing]

That is what I like to hear because I am not that level, but this is what Jesus say

John 15
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

If we abide in Him, the fruit that Jesus produce will manifest in us, not because our ability, but His ability.

We are not the producer Hi is, we only a bearer

Jesus was preaching the Law of Moses to Israel during his first coming. The new covenant that was promised to Israel has not yet begun.

But as Hebrews 8:8 stated, this new covenant that will be cut with Israel in the future, will supernaturally allow them to follow God's law perfectly, as it will be written in their hearts.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. ...(Jesus)

Are you talking about the Ten Commandments under the old covenant or are you talking about the two commandments that JESUS spoke In the New Covenan?

 

[wolfwint]

tantalon Aug. 4 2020.

If you feel love God than you must fell love other

I john 4:20

If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?”
Love God = love man, it mean
Fell love God = fell love man

If you fell love man and you know that man hungry> you will feed him,

So if you love man, have a food and know hungry man, your love will translate your love in to work ( work to buy a food, and prepare a burger for him)

Love is an act of the will. Feelings are an unshure sign. If you dont feel you dont Love?

 

[p_rehbein]

tantalon Aug. 4 2020.

I can see you have put a LOT of thought and sincere prayer into your comment, and I appreciate when someone takes the time to do so. It really adds to the "fellowship" here on CC. Wonderful thoughts!

 

[Scribe]

Are you talking about the Ten Commandments under the old covenant or are you talking about the two commandments that JESUS spoke In the New Covenan?

Everything that Jesus taught.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Everything that Jesus taught.

JESUS told the rich young ruler to keep the law but no man could keep the law.

 

[Jackson123]

Jesus was preaching the Law of Moses to Israel during his first coming. The new covenant that was promised to Israel has not yet begun.

But as Hebrews 8:8 stated, this new covenant that will be cut with Israel in the future, will supernaturally allow them to follow God's law perfectly, as it will be written in their hearts.

The same law, but was wrote on the paper, now in your heart? Or different law?

 

[garee]

Both should go hand in hand, but I think more on how you feel.

Its all one work of Emanuel working in us with us to both will. . . the commandment. And do. . . the power to carry it out. Its our first experience of his labor of love working in us .The same love we return to when he calls us to repent.

Some it seems murmur (Philippians 4:12-13). Others remember the promise that accompanies salvation given us in Hebrews 6 .Just because we cannot see him it does not mean He will not forget the the good works we do offer toward the power of His name. The power we have in these earthen bodies. Again not of us. . .lest any man boast in false pride.

 

[Scribe]

JESUS told the rich young ruler to keep the law but no man could keep the law.

He told him to sell all he had and come follow Jesus, if he loved him he would have done it.

 

[Blue_Of_Lake]

But I am sure you don’t want to have fellow residents of heaven coming up to you and say, “Guess how I love God in order to secure my salvation?” 🤣

they may need a few good preachers in heaven to let people know how people in heaven are supposed to be. 🙄🙃

 

[Scribe]

Jesus was preaching the Law of Moses to Israel during his first coming. The new covenant that was promised to Israel has not yet begun.

But as Hebrews 8:8 stated, this new covenant that will be cut with Israel in the future, will supernaturally allow them to follow God's law perfectly, as it will be written in their hearts.

Jesus preached the Gospel. The righteousness without the law through faith in Jesus was preached by Jesus. That is why they wanted to kill him. One of the great prophecies about the preaching of the Gospel was in Isaiah. in Isaiah 52 when he said How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Paul interprets it as not only applying to the Good News that Israel has been released from Babylon by the decree of Cyrus to go back to Jerusalem and rebuild but a fore telling of the Servant who will redeem Israel which is still future, but in between the Law would go forth from His Mouth (Isaiah 51) and that is this gospel of Righteousness that will never be abolished (Is 51) there are promises in Is 51-53 about him being a redeemer to the gentiles and also to Israel and restoration of Zion that apply both to the gentiles being saved the birth of the church and to the restoration of Israel in the end times which is how Paul interpreted it as well. This righteousness by faith in Jesus Christ Gospel started during the ministry of Jesus. It is not correct to say that Jesus taught the Law of Moses as the path of righteousness.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

He told him to sell all he had and come follow Jesus, if he loved him he would have done it.

But what about the part where JESUS told him (rich young ruler) to keep the law?Are you saying that If the rich young ruler loved JESUS he(rich young ruler)would have kept the Law with his own strength

when In the book of Romans Paul says he sees another law,warring against the law of his own mind and bringing him Into Captivity to the law of sin.Only the giver of the law (GOD In CHRIST) could keep the law?

So then again how would the rich young ruler keep the law In his own strength?

JESUS was born under the law and ushered In the NEW Testament/Covenant and JESUS told him to keep the law.
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Luke 18:16-19
King James Version


16 But Jesus called them [unto him], and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.

18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none [is] good, save one, [that is], God.
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Romans 7:20-23
King James Version

20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

they may need a few good preachers in heaven to let people know how people in heaven are supposed to be. 🙄🙃

Why would they need preachers In Heaven?I see the emojis so I take you It,you are just playing.🙂✌🏽

 

[HisLoveTransform]

I think how we love God is different on how God loves us? Hehe because the question is DOES “LOVING GOD” INCLUDE MY WORKS OR JUST HOW I FEEL??? I think it all started when we defined what LOVE means, and we know that love is God and God is love as it clearly stated in 1 John 4:7-21 about Loving Others. Human as we are if we rely on our love for Him we always fail. We need to remind ourselves that we can only love others because of the love of God that is in us. It will flow naturally in us through our works and even on what we feel. But works or what so ever we felt is meaningless when the source of it is not the original source of it which is only God through His son Jesus Christ.

 

[BillG]

Salvation does not include works. One is saved at the moment of conversion and the Holy spirit is now in residence in the repentant believer. Afterwards, 1st John says, "But whoso keeps his word, in him verily is THE LOVE OF God PERFECTED, hereby know we that we are in him". I am not going to type out a lot of verses, but just ask that before anyone starts giving personal opinions, look up the key words in the question from your CONCORDANCE, and use the KJV. Ideas from commentaries, books and opinions just do not cut it, the truth is only found in the word of God, don't go else where. And stop all these cutting remarks to each other, that behaviour is shameful.

I never said salvation includes works.

Salvation is not based on works an never will be.

I am happy with other translations than the KJV thank you and I know the key words concerning love.

My remarks or opinion were not cutting either.

Yes the Holy Spirit is in us when we repent of the sin of unbelief in Jesus (which Jesus said he me come to us to convict us of) and as a result we move from the Phileo love that Peter could only express when Jesus restored him to the Agape love love that he died for Jesus.

Sorry but your response comes accross a an attack and a cutting remark.

You didn't even have the courtesy to address my thoughts.

 

[Blik]

Love is a work, Romans 5:8

But loving God is not a requirement to be saved.

You are required to believe in God's love for you, that means believing that his Son died for your sins and rose again for your justification (1 Cor 15:1-4)

If we will act on this statement "love is a work" we can prove it. If we don't feel love for someone, if we act as if we love them the results will result in our also feeling love. It would work that way with the Lord, also.

When we feel love we act on that feeling. If we don't act on it the love goes away. The book of James explains this so well. When we act on what Jesus asks of us, love follows.

 

[Scribe]

But what about the part where JESUS told him (rich young ruler) to keep the law?Are you saying that If the rich young ruler loved JESUS he(rich young ruler)would have kept the Law with his own strength

when In the book of Romans Paul says he sees another law,warring against the law of his own mind and bringing him Into Captivity to the law of sin.Only the giver of the law (GOD In CHRIST) could keep the law?

So then again how would the rich young ruler keep the law In his own strength?

JESUS was born under the law and ushered In the NEW Testament/Covenant and JESUS told him to keep the law.
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Luke 18:16-19
King James Version


16 But Jesus called them [unto him], and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.

18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none [is] good, save one, [that is], God.
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Romans 7:20-23
King James Version

20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

Keep the commandments of Jesus by walking in the Spirit. Problem solved.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Keep the commandments of Jesus by walking in the Spirit. Problem solved.

Ok I agree with you If you are saying a person can’t keep the ten commandments In his own strength and when It comes to the Two commandments that JESUS gave,a person that has been saved Is GODs workmanship created In CHRIST UNTO good works.
Now that person has been equipped by GOD and will seek to purify himself even as he Is pure.

JESUS Is the VINE and we are members of the body(branches)receiving nourishment from the Vine and displaying spiritual fruit establishing the law.

 

[Guojing]

Jesus preached the Gospel. The righteousness without the law through faith in Jesus was preached by Jesus. That is why they wanted to kill him. One of the great prophecies about the preaching of the Gospel was in Isaiah. in Isaiah 52 when he said How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Paul interprets it as not only applying to the Good News that Israel has been released from Babylon by the decree of Cyrus to go back to Jerusalem and rebuild but a fore telling of the Servant who will redeem Israel which is still future, but in between the Law would go forth from His Mouth (Isaiah 51) and that is this gospel of Righteousness that will never be abolished (Is 51) there are promises in Is 51-53 about him being a redeemer to the gentiles and also to Israel and restoration of Zion that apply both to the gentiles being saved the birth of the church and to the restoration of Israel in the end times which is how Paul interpreted it as well. This righteousness by faith in Jesus Christ Gospel started during the ministry of Jesus. It is not correct to say that Jesus taught the Law of Moses as the path of righteousness.

Matthew 5:17-19 says otherwise

He cannot be preaching righteousness apart from the law since he has not died yet

Don’t read Paul revelations, romans 3:21 into the 4 gospels. That truth could only come in later