My take on water baptism...
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The word baptism or baptized in the New Testament within the context of spiritual matters does not immediately mean it is a water baptism unless specifically stated.
In Romans 6, the word used is ἐβαπτίσθημεν (ebaptisthēmen), meaning: Lit: I dip, submerge, but specifically of ceremonial dipping; I baptize.
Given that there is more than one type of baptism referenced in the NT, baptism of the Holy Ghost and baptism of water, it is necessary to parse out which one it's talking about given a context.
So no it doesn't refer to water submersion in all instances of its use which actually is part of the reason for doctrinal misinterpretation in some cases.
Read Romans 6 again with the questions in mind:
Does getting dunked in water do any of the following:
Bury believers with Christ in his death?
Raise believers from the dead to walk in new life?
Unite us with Christ?
Guarantee we will be involved in a future resurrection?
Does water baptism crucify our old self?
Does it do away with the body of sin?
Or is this describing a born again Christian who has been baptised by the power of the Holy Ghost himself?
In Romans 6, the word used is ἐβαπτίσθημεν (ebaptisthēmen), meaning: Lit: I dip, submerge, but specifically of ceremonial dipping; I baptize.
Given that there is more than one type of baptism referenced in the NT, baptism of the Holy Ghost and baptism of water, it is necessary to parse out which one it's talking about given a context.
So no it doesn't refer to water submersion in all instances of its use which actually is part of the reason for doctrinal misinterpretation in some cases.
Read Romans 6 again with the questions in mind:
Does getting dunked in water do any of the following:
Bury believers with Christ in his death?
Raise believers from the dead to walk in new life?
Unite us with Christ?
Guarantee we will be involved in a future resurrection?
Does water baptism crucify our old self?
Does it do away with the body of sin?
Or is this describing a born again Christian who has been baptised by the power of the Holy Ghost himself?
There's two in Corinthians and the household of Stephanas.
1 Timothy 6: 3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
1 Corinthians 1:14 King James Version (KJV)
14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
King James Version (KJV)
1 Timothy 6: 3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
1 Corinthians 1:14 King James Version (KJV)
14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
King James Version (KJV)
So, according to you, by baptizing someone with water the Apostle Paul, and not the Holy Spirit, has the power to do the following things, as described in Romans 6?
Bury believers with Christ in his death.
Raise believers from the dead to walk in new life.
Unite us with Christ.
Guarantee we will be involved in a future resurrection.
Crucify our old self.
Do away with the body of sin.
Bury believers with Christ in his death.
Raise believers from the dead to walk in new life.
Unite us with Christ.
Guarantee we will be involved in a future resurrection.
Crucify our old self.
Do away with the body of sin.
I think we gonna put that in context as you have said. Maybe, it's good to quote the context, hence, Romans 6 has something to compare to ("likeness" "that like")
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Sure it is . Its what the question was about in John 3 :25-26.
What is a person from the tribe of Judah doing having been baptized by the last of member of the tribe of Levi (John) and now Jesus is performing that ceremonial law baptizing others?
John knew that a change in the priesthood was coming after the order of Melchedik our high priest eternally for ever and ever continually.
Psalm 110:4 The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
Hebrews 5:6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Hebrews 5:10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.
Hebrews 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
John the last Levi.... did not say; "I have no idea what a person from the tribe of Judah is doing in the place of a Levi"?
But rather as the Holy Spirit put his words of John's tongue. . . "A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven".
John 3:25-27 Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying. And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him. John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.
What is a person from the tribe of Judah doing having been baptized by the last of member of the tribe of Levi (John) and now Jesus is performing that ceremonial law baptizing others?
John knew that a change in the priesthood was coming after the order of Melchedik our high priest eternally for ever and ever continually.
Psalm 110:4 The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
Hebrews 5:6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Hebrews 5:10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.
Hebrews 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
John the last Levi.... did not say; "I have no idea what a person from the tribe of Judah is doing in the place of a Levi"?
But rather as the Holy Spirit put his words of John's tongue. . . "A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven".
John 3:25-27 Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying. And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him. John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.
I think being converted by hearing the gospel in the twinkling of the eye (under ten seconds)
The Eunuch like Philip had a desire as a member of the priesthood of believers to apply the ceremonial law as a shadow . So that he too like Phillip could plant the seed and water it with the doctrines of God in a living Hope Christ would apply it to the hearts of those who hear the call of faith. Away he went with his new tongue the gospel, preaching the good news.
1 Corinthians 3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
No man will be found with a self-righteousness edifying their own self.
Yeah i quoted it. That reply is not an answer to justifying your private interpretation of Acts 10:47-48
Unless the justification you are resting your case on is 100% eisegesis, that is, you have no Biblical basis for this claim you just project your personal feelings onto it despite what the text says.
Is that the substance of your view?
That you cannot defend it, you only assert it?
I can't just take your assertion about Acts 10. As I explained, as far as I can tell, without you giving a better explanation, the Bible clearly contradicts what you are saying about it.
Unless the justification you are resting your case on is 100% eisegesis, that is, you have no Biblical basis for this claim you just project your personal feelings onto it despite what the text says.
Is that the substance of your view?
That you cannot defend it, you only assert it?
I can't just take your assertion about Acts 10. As I explained, as far as I can tell, without you giving a better explanation, the Bible clearly contradicts what you are saying about it.
