Is God In Control OF Everything

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John146 said:
Sovereign is not found in the Bible so we better take heed how we define it when applying the word to God. There’s the Calvinist definition, then there’s the biblical example.
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God would not be God were he not Sovereign. Dominion is another word for Sovereign. This isn't a denominational issue.
There are many verses that tell us God is Sovereign.
 
soggykitten said:
God would not be God were he not Sovereign. Dominion is another word for Sovereign. This isn't a denominational issue.
There are many verses that tell us God is Sovereign.
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Define sovereign...Calvin's fatalism? Nope. Is God ultimately in control of the universe? Yes. Does God control all actions? Nope.
 
John146 said:
Define sovereign...Calvin's fatalism? Nope. Is God ultimately in control of the universe? Yes. Does God control all actions? Nope.
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It appears you have a burr under your saddle about Calvinism that clouds your vision of what God says of himself.
Where does God tell you in his own words he's not in control of all actions? In other words, where does God tell you he is not Sovereign, has dominion over his creation? Please share the scripture or scriptures that you're using to uphold your ideas.
 
soggykitten said:
It appears you have a burr under your saddle about Calvinism that clouds your vision of what God says of himself.
Where does God tell you in his own words he's not in control of all actions? In other words, where does God tell you he is not Sovereign, has dominion over his creation? Please share the scripture or scriptures that you're using to uphold your ideas.
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God can be in control over all, and yet allow choices to be made contrary to His will. Does God control your actions and thoughts? Example...

Luke 13:34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!

God longed for Israel to seek Him, to gather them together and protect them, but they refused.
 
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John146 said:
God can be in control over all, and yet allow choices to be made contrary to His will. Does God control your actions and thoughts? Example...

Luke 13:34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!

God longed for Israel to seek Him, to gather them together and protect them, but they refused.
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That isn't the scripture saying God is not sovereign nor says he does not have control over all his creation.


Proverbs 16:9
 
Lafftur said:
YES, God is in control of everything BUT, He has chosen to give us free will because He wants us to know Him and love Him.......Love without a choice is NOT love.
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God has relinquished some of his control to Satan and will not violate that agreement until the appropriate time when Michael fights to take back that which was given to Satan. So Satan has dominion over much of the world in regards to the flesh.

"And having led Him up, he showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said to Him, “I will give to You all this authority, and its glory; for it has been delivered to me, and I give it to whom I wish. Therefore if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.”

hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord. - 1 Cor 5:5
 
tourist said:
Apparently, you are able to see into the future but God cannot. Do you still stand behind your claim that God cannot see into the future? Your above claim alone contradicts what you have stated about how God cannot see into the future.

Regarding your ability to predict future events regarding your business matters, you cannot in fact see into the future but rather, at best, can only have an education guess on what may unfold. It may, or may not play out the way that you have planned.

God knows for certain what exactly is going to happen in the future because He is God and has orchestrated or allowed certain things to happen in the events or outcome that is to come.
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I disagree. If I can predict whats going to happen down the road based upon what I plan to do. I'm sure God can too.
 
PennEd said:
Umm... You didn’t address the Scripture at all. Just went right along with how you feel, and what things would be like if you were God.

And why are you bringing up Buddhism? You understand that practice is satanic right?
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I have no idea what you're talking about. What Scripture are we talking about and who is Buddhism?
 
John146 said:
Define sovereign...Calvin's fatalism? Nope. Is God ultimately in control of the universe? Yes. Does God control all actions? Nope.
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So if there is no verse in the Scriptures stating God is “omniscient” meaning He knows the past, the present, and the future? Then why do so many Christians believe God is omniscient?
The answer is: Ancient Greek Mythology and Philosophy.
 
PennEd said:
Umm... You didn’t address the Scripture at all. Just went right along with how you feel, and what things would be like if you were God.

And why are you bringing up Buddhism? You understand that practice is satanic right?
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I never write about how I feel. I have no idea where you get that from.
 
Peterlag said:
I have no idea what you're talking about. What Scripture are we talking about and who is Buddhism?
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What!? Are you for real? Go back and read my post to see the Scriptures, and your response pertaining to Bhudda!
 
Peterlag said:
So if there is no verse in the Scriptures stating God is “omniscient” meaning He knows the past, the present, and the future? Then why do so many Christians believe God is omniscient?
The answer is: Ancient Greek Mythology and Philosophy.
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People rely on their own human logic. “If God does not know everything in the future, then He can’t be God.” I believe God has chosen to limit His knowledge when dealing with man because He gave man the freedom to make choices.
 
No verses that day God is omniscient huh ....

Psalm 139:4
New International Version

4 Before a word is on my tongue
you, Lord, know it completely.(A)
 
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Psalm 147:5
New King James Version

5 (A)Great is our Lord, and (B)mighty in power;
(C)His understanding isinfinite.
 
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