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Which Israel is that?
The bride of Christ that he named more appropriately as Christian has to do with a kingdom of priest from all nations?
The word Israel has a meaning. That miracle is made know by looking for the meaning of the born again word. (Israel) previous as Jacob the deceiver. He had no power with God.
Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
Same power we have working in us. . . Christ.
The word Israel is never used to separate the flesh of one nation from the flesh and blood of another.
Why eulogize the corrupted flesh rather than look to the foundation of the word? What's the hope?
Or do we need not define the words?
The woman in Revelation 12 according to the signified understanding of the parable is the bride of Christ that the father named Christian.
She most likely does not care what word you use to describe the relationship of her husband, Christ. Either one works the same . Christ the person the city was named after as her founder a befitting name . . Jacob would not of been a befitting name to name her.
The bride of Christ that he named more appropriately as Christian has to do with a kingdom of priest from all nations?
The word Israel has a meaning. That miracle is made know by looking for the meaning of the born again word. (Israel) previous as Jacob the deceiver. He had no power with God.
Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
Same power we have working in us. . . Christ.
The word Israel is never used to separate the flesh of one nation from the flesh and blood of another.
Why eulogize the corrupted flesh rather than look to the foundation of the word? What's the hope?
Or do we need not define the words?
The woman in Revelation 12 according to the signified understanding of the parable is the bride of Christ that the father named Christian.
She most likely does not care what word you use to describe the relationship of her husband, Christ. Either one works the same . Christ the person the city was named after as her founder a befitting name . . Jacob would not of been a befitting name to name her.
The temporal tabernacle in the wilderness served its temporal need . It was not the desire of Christ to build another after the temporal wilderness time period. .
It would seem many turn that idea upside down and have a desire to build another abomination of desolation for some reason or other. ..?
To make desolate is to make without effect. God not seen stands in in Holy place of glory not seen not temples made with corrupted hands . That glory is the unseen force of his faith is that he works in us.
The time of reformation came 2000 years ago (last days) .The abomination of desolation was made to no effect when from the top to the bottom the veil was rent which represented the flesh of our bloody husband, the first born. When the curtain was open there was no mighty Oz.
Believers are the temple always have been the ones not made with human hands .He does not dwell in temples made of brick and stones .No redeeming value in stone.
We cannot serve two teaching masters . The things seen the temporal and the things not seen the eternal. They must be mixed if we desire to find the gospel understanding in those parables.
If we literalize the signified understanding the danger of idol worship is right there trying to get its foot of false pride in the door.
The lust of the eye. No beauty in the abomnonation of desolation . That glorious beauty represented by the temporal things makes temples disappear. No temple or need of the Sun in the new heavens and earth .Glory, glory, glory .Not sufferings, sufferings, suffering and more.
Buy the truth of the gospel and not sell it to the things the eyes see.
Esau's mistake seeing no value in the things not seen .Sold the gospel for a bowl of chili
If we literalize the signified understanding the danger of idol worship is right there trying to get its foot of false pride in the door.
The lust of the eye. No beauty in the abomnonation of desolation . That glorious beauty represented by the temporal things makes temples disappear. No temple or need of the Sun in the new heavens and earth .Glory, glory, glory .Not sufferings, sufferings, suffering and more.
Buy the truth of the gospel and not sell it to the things the eyes see.
Esau's mistake seeing no value in the things not seen .Sold the gospel for a bowl of chili
Right....the tabernacle was meant to be temporary, but the temple was meant to be permanent.
Can you help me out with this with some Scripture?
Irrelevant. Daniel's prophesy about the Abomination and the Little-Horn are not events in heaven.
Actually it means "to cause horror" or "to make desolate". It that case, both will happen because what the Antichrist erects in the temple will be appalling to the Jews. It will be so offensive to God that it will cause them to be disturbed. That's why Jesus told them that they should "flee to the mountains". There, the Lord will keep them safe, probably in the mountains of Petra (Edom).
Can you help me out with this with some Scripture?
Irrelevant. Daniel's prophesy about the Abomination and the Little-Horn are not events in heaven.
Actually it means "to cause horror" or "to make desolate". It that case, both will happen because what the Antichrist erects in the temple will be appalling to the Jews. It will be so offensive to God that it will cause them to be disturbed. That's why Jesus told them that they should "flee to the mountains". There, the Lord will keep them safe, probably in the mountains of Petra (Edom).
Hi thanks. I can try.
No money trails to follow. The wisdom that comes from above that which works within us. . . . he true riches.
I can see why that would seem to be the answer. It usually is what is said from my experiences .My first reaction also .. .
If searched out it seems to stand the test for rightly dividing. I am no master for sure. With me the no "two masters" understanding has been a plus. Teaching us how to walk by faith or hear God not seen.
The word master is used as a synonym for Teacher, Lord or Rabbi.
It is in reference to the unseen our exclusive source of faith as it is written . When the faith is accredited to that seen like mankind .We are then given the understanding to have nothing to do with it . It would be like killing what the bible calls the "two witnesses". The law and the prophets in exchange for another "teaching master" other than the Holy Spirit that does live in the believers body of death.
The parable in Luke 16 shows what happens when one looks for another teaching master other that the law and the prophets . The parable begins using money for wisdom but through a series of parables it reveals the true purpose of the context. The wisdom of God .A person cannot serve the things seen and God not seen.
The pivotal verse 13 sets the stage for the doctrine of two masters.
Luke16: 13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon
Ye cannot serve God and mammon is the same as saying . . . we walk by faith the unseen eternal that works in us and not that seen the temporal in respect to the things seen us.
verse 31 showing the outcome that began in verse 1.
Luke16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
It can be seen used that way below.
Mathew 23:7-10 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
Or again using the things seen like the Son of man, Jesus .He refused to deny the father the unseen teaching authority as master Lord. .
When accused of standing in the holy place as a abomination of desolation .Jesus as the Son of man (no power) said one is the Good master, God.
We guard the word of God. It is our one line of defense as the armor of God that father of lies has no power in.
Mark 10:16-18 King James Version (KJV) And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them.
And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
No money trails to follow. The wisdom that comes from above that which works within us. . . . he true riches.
I can see why that would seem to be the answer. It usually is what is said from my experiences .My first reaction also .. .
If searched out it seems to stand the test for rightly dividing. I am no master for sure. With me the no "two masters" understanding has been a plus. Teaching us how to walk by faith or hear God not seen.
The word master is used as a synonym for Teacher, Lord or Rabbi.
It is in reference to the unseen our exclusive source of faith as it is written . When the faith is accredited to that seen like mankind .We are then given the understanding to have nothing to do with it . It would be like killing what the bible calls the "two witnesses". The law and the prophets in exchange for another "teaching master" other than the Holy Spirit that does live in the believers body of death.
The parable in Luke 16 shows what happens when one looks for another teaching master other that the law and the prophets . The parable begins using money for wisdom but through a series of parables it reveals the true purpose of the context. The wisdom of God .A person cannot serve the things seen and God not seen.
The pivotal verse 13 sets the stage for the doctrine of two masters.
Luke16: 13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon
Ye cannot serve God and mammon is the same as saying . . . we walk by faith the unseen eternal that works in us and not that seen the temporal in respect to the things seen us.
verse 31 showing the outcome that began in verse 1.
Luke16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
It can be seen used that way below.
Mathew 23:7-10 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
Or again using the things seen like the Son of man, Jesus .He refused to deny the father the unseen teaching authority as master Lord. .
When accused of standing in the holy place as a abomination of desolation .Jesus as the Son of man (no power) said one is the Good master, God.
We guard the word of God. It is our one line of defense as the armor of God that father of lies has no power in.
Mark 10:16-18 King James Version (KJV) And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them.
And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Thanks I can try and help.
It was not meant to be at all .The portable traveling tabernacle fulfilled the need, ended after 40 years. . .
We who have Christ in us are the temple .Can't serve two different kinds . The one not made with human hands stands by.... faith. The other makes Christ's faith that works in us without effect.
Placing the things seen in the unseen holy place makes true faith disappear. No man can serve two temples . (1) Those made with human hands (2) the other one made with the hand of the Faithful Creator
2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight
The temple built with human hands was that which God gave over the faithless Jew to perform. They had become jealous of the surrounding pagan nation and their religious foundation .(out of sight of of mind) bury those who oppose , no faith needed. . God used that time period as a parable that pointed to the unseen eternal, faith.
The time of reformation came the veil is rent. The abomination of desolation is made to no effect. It is then Satan fell .he could no longer deceive all the nation using the flesh of a Jew to create false pride.
The reformation a time of tribulation, the trouble of Jacob like never before or ever again for those who trust in the flesh of any nation.
It was not meant to be at all .The portable traveling tabernacle fulfilled the need, ended after 40 years. . .
We who have Christ in us are the temple .Can't serve two different kinds . The one not made with human hands stands by.... faith. The other makes Christ's faith that works in us without effect.
Placing the things seen in the unseen holy place makes true faith disappear. No man can serve two temples . (1) Those made with human hands (2) the other one made with the hand of the Faithful Creator
2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight
The temple built with human hands was that which God gave over the faithless Jew to perform. They had become jealous of the surrounding pagan nation and their religious foundation .(out of sight of of mind) bury those who oppose , no faith needed. . God used that time period as a parable that pointed to the unseen eternal, faith.
The time of reformation came the veil is rent. The abomination of desolation is made to no effect. It is then Satan fell .he could no longer deceive all the nation using the flesh of a Jew to create false pride.
The reformation a time of tribulation, the trouble of Jacob like never before or ever again for those who trust in the flesh of any nation.
Teacher and Rabbi are similar.
Lord and master are synonymous.
But all 4 terms are not synonymous
Sure we can. We are told in the N.T. to serve our earthly master with a good attitude even if they mistreat us, for this is the will of God: That we respect our masters because "ll authority is established by God.
They are similar, but not the same.
UOTE="garee, post: 4243547, member: 237842"]God not seen[/QUOTE]
(Can you please stop saying "seen" and "unseen" in the middle of all your sentences? We know what is seen and unseen, you don't have to point it out every all the time.
I read the works of dead theologians all the time. Their writing is easier to read that yours. The way you write doesn't sound classic or like old-English, you are just using bad grammar. It...is....so....annoying. If you MUST use those for necessary clarification, then at least do it in a grammatically correct way. Please and thank you.
I agree with much of what you are saying, but you still haven't demonstrated where the Bible says "we cannot serve two teaching masters". The Bible says that there are in fact "masters" of wisdom, and we are to heed their leadership and teaching.
Solomon was chosen by God to build the temple. He only didn't allow David because David had blood on his hands. God wanted someone with clean hands to build His temple.
“He said to me, ‘Your son Solomon is the one who shall build My house and My courts; for I have chosen him to be a son to Me, and I will be a father to him.” (1 Chronicles 28:6)
Why do you think that the existence of a physical temple means that we are somehow serving someone other than God?
Also, as I said before, the events of the Abomination and the little horn spoken of by Daniel are not events in heaven.
What do you have to say about that?
Lord and master are synonymous.
But all 4 terms are not synonymous
Sure we can. We are told in the N.T. to serve our earthly master with a good attitude even if they mistreat us, for this is the will of God: That we respect our masters because "ll authority is established by God.
They are similar, but not the same.
UOTE="garee, post: 4243547, member: 237842"]God not seen[/QUOTE]
(Can you please stop saying "seen" and "unseen" in the middle of all your sentences? We know what is seen and unseen, you don't have to point it out every all the time.
I read the works of dead theologians all the time. Their writing is easier to read that yours. The way you write doesn't sound classic or like old-English, you are just using bad grammar. It...is....so....annoying. If you MUST use those for necessary clarification, then at least do it in a grammatically correct way. Please and thank you.
I agree with much of what you are saying, but you still haven't demonstrated where the Bible says "we cannot serve two teaching masters". The Bible says that there are in fact "masters" of wisdom, and we are to heed their leadership and teaching.
Solomon was chosen by God to build the temple. He only didn't allow David because David had blood on his hands. God wanted someone with clean hands to build His temple.
“He said to me, ‘Your son Solomon is the one who shall build My house and My courts; for I have chosen him to be a son to Me, and I will be a father to him.” (1 Chronicles 28:6)
Why do you think that the existence of a physical temple means that we are somehow serving someone other than God?
Also, as I said before, the events of the Abomination and the little horn spoken of by Daniel are not events in heaven.
What do you have to say about that?
They would seem to point to one unseen... all are used in as one in Mathew 23
Mathew 23:7-10 King James..And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
Mathew 23:8-10 ERV “But you must not be called ‘Teacher.’ You are all equal as brothers and sisters. You have only one Teacher. And don’t call anyone on earth ‘Father.’ You have one Father. He is in heaven. And you should not be called ‘Master.’ You have only one Master, the Messiah.
Yes and like Jesus with respect to the unseen master Hid father who works in us. He can develop good attitudes in his children
Sorry. . I will try .Dead works do not benefit. Its that it would seem many have a difficult time understanding the importance of the word "faith" or why it must be mixed with the historical as a parable and on how it (faith) helps us with the mysteries.
More of a reminder who it is that does bring to our minds the he has taught us so that we do not become lukewarm in a search of the mysteries hidden from the foundation of the world . We must beware of familiarity it can breed contempt hatred and death. God is not a man as us. Our focus is the invisible things of God. . the gospel
Historical understanding has its place. But without parables Christ spoke not, hiding the signified understanding from those who do not use the tools he has given us.
2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Then you have leaned towards His leadership
Solomon failed to keep the covenant . the trial was over David remains the person used to signify the Son of man
Regardless of who built it it was still something evil that God had given over the faithless Jews that had become jealous of the foundation of the pagan nations (out of sight out of mind) .
That period of time used as a parable had come to end. The time of reformation restoring the government of God had come . The veil was rent exposing the abomination of desolation .
The believers that were in the wilderness where the temple having the power of Christ in them he moved them over and over for forty years as a sign to the world a picture of us entering the promised land using the temporal to reveal the eternal .
In that land There is no temple .The glory of God will be the light as it was before it departed on the third day God saw pride in the heart of Satan. The letter of the law performed its work of death again the glory departed.
And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.Revelation 21: 22;25
God does not live in temples made with human hands he lives in newly created human hearts. . would you think different.?
I think they are events on earth the temple that speak of the unseen heavenly events . The corrupted earthly thing siting in the glorious place of the heavenly . a replay of the garden of Eden. Identity theft at the highest level . Plagiarism. Blasphemy . A violation of the first commandment all rolled into one.
2 Corinthians 4:18 the gospel key Turns it right side up[/QUOTE]
Mathew 23:7-10 King James..And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
Mathew 23:8-10 ERV “But you must not be called ‘Teacher.’ You are all equal as brothers and sisters. You have only one Teacher. And don’t call anyone on earth ‘Father.’ You have one Father. He is in heaven. And you should not be called ‘Master.’ You have only one Master, the Messiah.
Yes and like Jesus with respect to the unseen master Hid father who works in us. He can develop good attitudes in his children
Sorry. . I will try .Dead works do not benefit. Its that it would seem many have a difficult time understanding the importance of the word "faith" or why it must be mixed with the historical as a parable and on how it (faith) helps us with the mysteries.
More of a reminder who it is that does bring to our minds the he has taught us so that we do not become lukewarm in a search of the mysteries hidden from the foundation of the world . We must beware of familiarity it can breed contempt hatred and death. God is not a man as us. Our focus is the invisible things of God. . the gospel
Historical understanding has its place. But without parables Christ spoke not, hiding the signified understanding from those who do not use the tools he has given us.
2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Then you have leaned towards His leadership
Solomon failed to keep the covenant . the trial was over David remains the person used to signify the Son of man
Regardless of who built it it was still something evil that God had given over the faithless Jews that had become jealous of the foundation of the pagan nations (out of sight out of mind) .
That period of time used as a parable had come to end. The time of reformation restoring the government of God had come . The veil was rent exposing the abomination of desolation .
The believers that were in the wilderness where the temple having the power of Christ in them he moved them over and over for forty years as a sign to the world a picture of us entering the promised land using the temporal to reveal the eternal .
In that land There is no temple .The glory of God will be the light as it was before it departed on the third day God saw pride in the heart of Satan. The letter of the law performed its work of death again the glory departed.
And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.Revelation 21: 22;25
God does not live in temples made with human hands he lives in newly created human hearts. . would you think different.?
I think they are events on earth the temple that speak of the unseen heavenly events . The corrupted earthly thing siting in the glorious place of the heavenly . a replay of the garden of Eden. Identity theft at the highest level . Plagiarism. Blasphemy . A violation of the first commandment all rolled into one.
2 Corinthians 4:18 the gospel key Turns it right side up[/QUOTE]
Yes they are all used to describe Jesus, but that doesn't make the words themselves synonymous. Just because two things have some things in common does not mean they have all things in common.
Maybe you could put them in parentheses so we can read the sentence uninterrupted.
He always spoke in parables to the Pharisees, but there came a time when He stopped speaking in parables to His followers.
“These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; an hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but will tell you plainly of the Father.” (John 16:25)
"To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is in parables." (Luke 8:10)
“His disciples said, “Lo, now You are speaking plainly and are not using a figure of speech.” (John 16:29)
Solomon's shortcoming are irrelevant to God's decision. God chose Solomon to build the temple. Period.
The tabernacle was a shadow of our current temporal bodies now.
The temple was a shadow of the permanent glorified body we will be changed into (1 Cor 15)
Can you explain this with Scripture?
I never said He will live in the 3rd temple. The Bible doesn't say that either. There just simply will be a temple, but not as a legitimate dwelling for God. God isn't going to tell the Jew to do this, they simply just will build one own initiative. This isn't God's desire. God just told us it will happen because it will. He has seen the end from the beginning.
Is this supposed to be one sentence?
Are you saying that this is an event on earth? or in heaven?
Maybe you could put them in parentheses so we can read the sentence uninterrupted.
He always spoke in parables to the Pharisees, but there came a time when He stopped speaking in parables to His followers.
“These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; an hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but will tell you plainly of the Father.” (John 16:25)
"To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is in parables." (Luke 8:10)
“His disciples said, “Lo, now You are speaking plainly and are not using a figure of speech.” (John 16:29)
Solomon's shortcoming are irrelevant to God's decision. God chose Solomon to build the temple. Period.
The tabernacle was a shadow of our current temporal bodies now.
The temple was a shadow of the permanent glorified body we will be changed into (1 Cor 15)
Can you explain this with Scripture?
I never said He will live in the 3rd temple. The Bible doesn't say that either. There just simply will be a temple, but not as a legitimate dwelling for God. God isn't going to tell the Jew to do this, they simply just will build one own initiative. This isn't God's desire. God just told us it will happen because it will. He has seen the end from the beginning.
Is this supposed to be one sentence?
Are you saying that this is an event on earth? or in heaven?
I think that's why we are to seek out the spiritual (unseen) understanding comparing it the eternal, to the eternal. Not the literal historical as to what they eyes see. The historallly understanding must be mixed with faith so we can enter his rest from working alone.
I can try.
Without parable he spoke not. He never stopped speaking parables .In that way his whole life is a parable of the things not seen. Like always using the things seen to reveal the hidden (eternal things of God)
To begin there will be no temple in the new order. In this order we are the temple not made with human hands. For forty years he used a portable as a sign to the world. Not a sign unto themselves (self edifying) as a alternative to walking by faith giving glory to the unseen God . It did not replace the use of human as a temple having the power of Christ in them . God gave them over to do that which they should not of "set up a abomination of desolation", making void the source of faith the word of God giving it over to those who walk by sight
The bible God does not say God dwells in any temple made with hands (abomination of desolation). . The believers are the temple. (Christ in us)
I would say a event of both all in the twinkling of the eye. New heavens and earth
I can try.
Without parable he spoke not. He never stopped speaking parables .In that way his whole life is a parable of the things not seen. Like always using the things seen to reveal the hidden (eternal things of God)
To begin there will be no temple in the new order. In this order we are the temple not made with human hands. For forty years he used a portable as a sign to the world. Not a sign unto themselves (self edifying) as a alternative to walking by faith giving glory to the unseen God . It did not replace the use of human as a temple having the power of Christ in them . God gave them over to do that which they should not of "set up a abomination of desolation", making void the source of faith the word of God giving it over to those who walk by sight
The bible God does not say God dwells in any temple made with hands (abomination of desolation). . The believers are the temple. (Christ in us)
I would say a event of both all in the twinkling of the eye. New heavens and earth
I think I did offer my explanation. An abomination is anything that apposes the will of God . Desolation is that with makes something void .
An abomination of desolation makes void the unseen glory of God by giving it over to what the eyes see.(human design)
It is the foundation for natural unconverted marking those that have no faith by which they could believe God. Out of sight out of mind pagan religion .
Things seen to include corrupted flesh and blood.
It all about the invisible world made known by the Spirit of Christ the author and finisher of Christian belief. , Never ever after what the eyes see (no faith) the temporal. . a abomination of desolation making the Spirit of Christ not seen that we have in us without effect.
The wrath of God that began being revealed in the garden when the glory of God departed. The same continues today revealed by our invisible God who resists worship after the corruptible things seen .That hidden glory will return on the last day when the corruption disappear. and the new heavens and earth appears. There will be no temple needed for those who glory in the things corupted seen
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.Romam 1: 18-23
Changed the glory of the corruptible. This of course includes the flesh of the Son of man, Jesus. He refused to stand in the unseen holy place of the faith of God. The God of the unseen spiritual world .
We walk by faith the eternal. No images needed to commune with a God who has no form. Never did never will
We are the temporal temple "not made with human hands". In the way no man can serve two teaching Masters. The things the eyes see and that in which the Spirit of Christ in us reveals.
An abomination of desolation makes void the unseen glory of God by giving it over to what the eyes see.(human design)
It is the foundation for natural unconverted marking those that have no faith by which they could believe God. Out of sight out of mind pagan religion .
Things seen to include corrupted flesh and blood.
It all about the invisible world made known by the Spirit of Christ the author and finisher of Christian belief. , Never ever after what the eyes see (no faith) the temporal. . a abomination of desolation making the Spirit of Christ not seen that we have in us without effect.
The wrath of God that began being revealed in the garden when the glory of God departed. The same continues today revealed by our invisible God who resists worship after the corruptible things seen .That hidden glory will return on the last day when the corruption disappear. and the new heavens and earth appears. There will be no temple needed for those who glory in the things corupted seen
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.Romam 1: 18-23
Changed the glory of the corruptible. This of course includes the flesh of the Son of man, Jesus. He refused to stand in the unseen holy place of the faith of God. The God of the unseen spiritual world .
We walk by faith the eternal. No images needed to commune with a God who has no form. Never did never will
We are the temporal temple "not made with human hands". In the way no man can serve two teaching Masters. The things the eyes see and that in which the Spirit of Christ in us reveals.
There is no temple in heaven. Temple temporal representation of the glory of God not seen.
Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
It identified as the temple reveals the hidden things inside. The things inside are the glory called the hidden manna in Revelation 2.
The faithless Jew turned that inside out or upside down talking away the understanding of the builder. by an oral tradition of the fathers. The thing framed say to him who framed it you made me not. an abomination of desolation making void the word of God .
We can see that in the parable of the ark of the covenant the golden hidden measure of faith. The book of the law as to the letter death was placed on the outside of the ark .It then as a perfect law reveals the things hidden by the law of faith.
We are the temple revealing the gospel the secret things of God. Again like the hidden manna .Manna was used to stop the complaining of those desiring to return to the bondage of sin . Manna literally meaning : What is it ?" (foreign from our understanding) . No familiarity with God .He is not a man
He works in us to familiarize us with his Spirit that does dwell in these bodies of death. God looks can look inside we look on the outside mixing the two we can find the hidden treasures of the mysteries made know by the gospel. The hidden revealing. Not what do men say.
2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
It identified as the temple reveals the hidden things inside. The things inside are the glory called the hidden manna in Revelation 2.
The faithless Jew turned that inside out or upside down talking away the understanding of the builder. by an oral tradition of the fathers. The thing framed say to him who framed it you made me not. an abomination of desolation making void the word of God .
We can see that in the parable of the ark of the covenant the golden hidden measure of faith. The book of the law as to the letter death was placed on the outside of the ark .It then as a perfect law reveals the things hidden by the law of faith.
We are the temple revealing the gospel the secret things of God. Again like the hidden manna .Manna was used to stop the complaining of those desiring to return to the bondage of sin . Manna literally meaning : What is it ?" (foreign from our understanding) . No familiarity with God .He is not a man
He works in us to familiarize us with his Spirit that does dwell in these bodies of death. God looks can look inside we look on the outside mixing the two we can find the hidden treasures of the mysteries made know by the gospel. The hidden revealing. Not what do men say.
2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
That is because that is a reference of the new heavens, not the current heavens. The current heavens and earth will be destroyed after the great white throne judgement (Rev 20:11-15) The New Heavens and New Earth aren't created until Revelation 21.
The current heavens do in fact contain an temple:
“And the temple of God which is in heaven was opened; and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple, and there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder and an earthquake and a great hailstorm.” (Revelation 11:19)
“For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them.” (Revelation 7:15)
This temple in heaven was not made with hands, God made it.
The current heavens do in fact contain an temple:
“And the temple of God which is in heaven was opened; and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple, and there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder and an earthquake and a great hailstorm.” (Revelation 11:19)
“For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them.” (Revelation 7:15)
This temple in heaven was not made with hands, God made it.
My conclusion when taken in context ...
10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. 1 Thessalonians 1:10 (CWSB)
is that this will include the wrath unleashed on this world just before His Coming and is not speaking of hell/lake of fire which is not spoken of in all of 1Thess.
10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. 1 Thessalonians 1:10 (CWSB)
is that this will include the wrath unleashed on this world just before His Coming and is not speaking of hell/lake of fire which is not spoken of in all of 1Thess.
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