Not By Works
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Too long ago. Context would be lost now. Thanks for considering the idea.
Adam was neither born, nor perfect. We are perfected in Christ alone.
Also, Jesus was purposed from before the foundation of the world.
That was a good "start."
Meant to say hate TTUN. ("That team up North")
Hope you don't catch that virus @Judges1318, that's too close.
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he was not born he was created, he caused the fall and everyone else is born dead since, that was gods plan so all could be made alive
so I pray you hate your parents. And your children and wife and yes even self
otherwise you have no hope
Luke 14:26
“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.
This analogy falls flat on it's face and is a misleading collation....
For God so loved the Kosmos, that he gave his only begotten Son.....
God would have ALL MEN to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth.
There is not a just man upon the earth that does good and sins not
WHILE WE WERE DEAD IN TRESPASSES and SINS IT SAID......!!!!
This Calvinistic farse is sickening and false too boot!
This is exactly how it was for me, too.
I felt I had the choice.
And once I made the choice the change was instant and obvious.
There is no partiality with God. Romans 1.
Bill......Calvinism says GOD LOVES man A and he gets to enter the proverbial pearly gates and man B is sol and God chooses him to burn in hell....
The Bible says God loves ALL MEN, DIED FOR ALL MEN and would have ALL MEN be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth.....and God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked!
Because the truth behind the illustrations proves they are unscriptural!
I encourage you to learn the real meaning of Jesus’ conversation with Peter.
It is funny....this guy say...Satan only sinned a few times....My bible says he made 7 assertions of his will and attempted by a coup to overthrow Jesus and his heavenly throne.....but hey...I guess it plays well hey
In his case, more like learn about scriptural salvation first....
This analogy can be taken further.....does the man unconscience on the sidewalk from a heart attack and not breathing help the rescuers do CPR, use the defibrillator and then resuscitate themselves?
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At the end of the day, God has done everything possible to secure our salvation.....however....by faith we must acknowledge the truth of our state and what Christ has done.
That's not in Romans 1. It's in Romans 2:11 and the context is about how all will be judged. It is about those who do good to be accepted by God (which is proven an impossibility in chapter 3) or those who do evil (that's the entire world.)
Paul proves that none can do good to be accepted by God in Romans 3, that all are under condemnation, all have sinned, 3:23 and under this condemnation there is no distinction; 3:22 -- all are in the same boat, the whole world is guilty before God; 3:19.
You're in the wrong chapter and out of context. It doesn't refute the fact that God elects whom he wills, grants faith to whom he wills according to his purpose, counsel and will, and passes over others, not extending them mercy, Romans 9:16-20. Thherefore the verse you've alluded to you've misused and misapplied, and had the wrong chapter altogether.
And that isn't favoritism, it isn't showing partiality, it's called grace, of which God is entitled to grant to whomsoever he wills, or it isn't grace at all since he grants it based on nothing good in them, it is all according to his will to do so. 1 Corinthians 1:26-31.
@Rosemaryx you're growing in your faith, it is exciting to see. Your post is on target, concise, Biblical.
We were DEAD in trespasses and sins...... <--Ephesians
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ah, but who are our parents? and who are our children - when we're not in Christ (or before we were in Christ)?
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