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oyster67

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Woe is me. The continued assault on the Power of God to give eternal life for those who accept it. The deniers pursue Salvation as a condition with terms. God did not offer it that way. Living the life of a child of Jesus is a different matter.

So many false doctrines it is difficult for me to keep up.
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Never take God's grace for granted. He is not a vending machine. His promises are conditional upon our faithfulness to Him.
 
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I just assume you people know Hebrew!

That is a Jewish Joke amongst us Hebes :)
 
oyster67

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Fastfredy0 said:
Definition of sin: an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law.
Define immoral: not conforming to accepted standards of morality.

Hmmm... don't see anything in the definitions sayings SIN does not include mistakes. Man's courts say ignorance is not an excuse.
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I doubt if God cares what man's courts say. When a man stands before the White Throne, he won't be looking at judge Judy and won't be judged by Websters dictionary.
 
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oyster67 said:
Never take God's grace for granted. He is not a vending machine. His promises are conditional upon our faithfulness to Him.
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Actually Jesus stated we are to draw from His Grace continually.

Hebrews 4:16, ESV: "Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need."
 
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oyster67 said:
Correct in sense. When a man throws his car keys in the lake, he can't say he lost them. He willfully threw them away.
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Sad you adhere to a losable salvation...... this thread has proven that dogma completely wrong over and over.
 
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oyster67 said:
Never take God's grace for granted. He is not a vending machine. His promises are conditional upon our faithfulness to Him.
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God's promises are not conditional upon anything if one is a Christian. If you live under the Old Covenant that's one thing but if you are born again God's grace to you is not conditional.
 
oyster67

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jaybo said:
God's promises are not conditional upon anything if one is a Christian. If you live under the Old Covenant that's one thing but if you are born again God's grace to you is not conditional.
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Abide in the vine and all will be well. (That's NT, btw)
 
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Fastfredy0 said:
Definition of sin: an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law.
Define immoral: not conforming to accepted standards of morality.

Hmmm... don't see anything in the definitions sayings SIN does not include mistakes. Man's courts say ignorance is not an excuse.
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Does a definition for any given word necessarily have to include everything it is not?
 
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mailmandan said:
Attacking OSAS and stirring up contention seems to be your main purpose here. :(
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The ad hominem is your only defense, isn’t it? You refuse to answer the question as asked and instead attack my character.

My intention is to show as many as love the truth the scriptural and logical flaws in the false doctrine. The fruit in your responses is also indicative. The lack of common curtesy is common, although the whole of US culture employs this.
 
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DorothyMae said:
Waiting is not Doing something but doing NOTHING. Second, the father says the son was to him DEAD. So he wasn’t waiting for him to return but assumed he NEVER WOULD. You are in error.
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Wrong, waiting is verb, it is an action.

.......delay action until a particular time or until something else happens.

While the father had thought him dead and lost... he still welcomed him back ... a perfect picture of God's unfailing love and grace.
 
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Fastfredy0 said:
Definition of sin: an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law.
Define immoral: not conforming to accepted standards of morality.

Hmmm... don't see anything in the definitions sayings SIN does not include mistakes. Man's courts say ignorance is not an excuse.
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Hmmm, I don’t see anything in the definitions saying SIN does include mistakes.
 
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Woe is me. The continued assault on the Power of God to give eternal life for those who accept it. The deniers pursue Salvation as a condition with terms. God did not offer it that way. Living the life of a child of Jesus is a different matter.

So many false doctrines it is difficult for me to keep up.
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Salvation is not probation. Eternal life is not temporary life. Jesus is the door. He is not a revolving door
 
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