Not By Works

[dcontroversal]

HahaHAHHAAHAAHAH I have seen it all now....a peddler of a man made doctrine accusing another member of peddling their own doctrine....

CALVINISM is a MAN MADE dogma....and it is peddled by a few on this site....I find it humorous that a peddler of Calvin Klein highwater pants would accuse another member of pushing their own doctrine....

Hypocrite comes from two GREEK words......!

 

[dcontroversal]

1 Corinthians 9:

23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.

25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:

27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.



Paul said we are in a RACE.
Look at verse 27 from the Greek:

ἀλλὰ ὑπωπιάζω μου τὸ σῶμα καὶ δουλαγωγῶ, μή πως ἄλλοις κηρύξας αὐτὸς ἀδόκιμος γένωμαι.
27 but I am belaboring my body and leading it into slavery, lest somehow, when heralding to others, I myself may become disqualified."

^
Paul said we could become DISQUALIFIED if we do not keep ourselves in SUBMISSION to God!

That proves OSAS is Baloney!

He is not speaking about salvation genius.....!!! And it is obvious you have no clue about Greek and Hebrew......a 5 year old can google, cut and past it!

 

[dcontroversal]

Yet Paul is Saved and still claims he could be disqualified.

Not hardly......it is rather sickening how you just walk all over any given context to peddle error!

 

[dcontroversal]

A condescending post!

When one peddles a false dogma of men, stands in error, refuses truth because of pride, is never wrong and leads his congregation astray..........what can one expect....!

 

[dcontroversal]

What else would he be disqualified from?

Context states clearly what he was addressing.....maybe take the rose colored glasses off and you will see man!

 

[dcontroversal]

Really?

Which member here is greater than the Holy Spirit who WROTE this verse?

“For if we sin deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire which will consume the adversaries.

The Holy Spirit did not wrote that verse....a MAN being led and inspired of God wrote that verse, and in context it is NOT speaking to or supporting the LOSS OF SALVATION!

 

[Magenta]

Now the dilemma is, if it wasn't destroyed what should we do with it now? Just asking, putting it out there

The law condemns those not covered by the shed righteous blood of Jesus

 

[dcontroversal]

The wisest man on Earth, Solomon, wrote that Before God Created the first thing, God knew him and played with him.

What's Ironic, this proves 2 things. We are predestined, and Solomon still ended up in Hell. At one time, Solomon was Saved and all he did was for the Glory of God. And look at where he is now!

Solomon ended up in hell you say......My bible says HOLY MEN OF God penned the word of GOD....man...you are really proving that you have no factual understanding of the word of God...

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

Solomon ended up in hell you say......My bible says HOLY MEN OF God penned the word of GOD....man...you are really proving that you have no factual understanding of the word of God...

1Ki 11:11 Wherefore the LORD said unto Solomon, Forasmuch as this is done of thee, and thou hast not kept my covenant and my statutes, which I have commanded thee, I will surely rend the kingdom from thee, and will give it to thy servant.
1Ki 11:12 Notwithstanding in thy days I will not do it for David thy father's sake: but I will rend it out of the hand of thy son.
1Ki 11:13 Howbeit I will not rend away all the kingdom; but will give one tribe to thy son for David my servant's sake, and for Jerusalem's sake which I have chosen.

God was definitely not happy with Solomon but we can't determine one another's outcome... only God can

 

[Duskey]

Do you not know why people want to sin? Read James.

I didn’t ask about people in general.
I asked him specifically. Thank you.

 

[EleventhHour]

Slander: the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.

You‘ve never done this.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

In the “Not by works, False” thread...


dcontroversal said:
Another lie peddled by a Calvin worshipper......since you agree with Jaywalker.....this sin is not covered under the blood...wilfull lies, false allegations.....maybe Calvin can pray or intercede for you?

Your response to DC is here...

“You talking to preacher of lies again?”


Here it is for all to see. Now, lie some more!



https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/not-by-works-false.192473/page-29#post-4263591

Again your too late, I already posted my post admitting my error and apologized.

i have yet to see your brother apologize for anything he has done yet though, quite sad

 

[eternally-gratefull]

@eternally-gratefull

You've moved the goal posts to inflammatory remarks because you have no proof I've lied. Nearly daily when engaged with you you accuse me of this very thing, insulting, accusing, saying things I clearly do not believe or teach. Frankly it's shameful you do this and you know you do it don't you? Of course you do.

Today or yesterday, can't recall when, but you accused me of lying about what you teach. Several times you insulted me, said I slandered you, made inflammatory comments, even going as far as implying I do this all the time then threatened to report me.

Sorry, your words are not true. Not sure why you do this, but you in fact do this to me. You've insulted me while I was on ignore and implied that was a lie too. But it wasn't.

I don't sit on this site lying yet you've said I lie many many times. You got many to think I have with this incident of your statements having me on ignore and your teachings. One is still harping on it as of now and needs to be told to end it, you got it rolling after all, right? They enjoy your accusations and your attempt to destroy my character on this site though. I never went around trying to report you as you have me, yet while denying my statements that you insulted me, you threatened to report me for what you were actually doing yourself!

You accused me of lying about what you teach.

Nope, I've not lied.

I have proof you teach what I stated just like the last proof provided.

Now, want to go there too? I've tried, am trying to take the high road here. Do you want me to show that yet once again you lied about me and give several quotes proving what I said was accurate? Really? You want more? I'm asking you to put an end to slandering me publicly. I've not lied about you, yet you've relentlessly attacked, lied about me and accused me falsely.

You need to end your nonsense attacks and accusing me of lying as I am more than ready to prove again what I said is true.

@preacher4truth

i am not warning you again to stop with your remarks, your war against me and a few other peopleis out of hand, every time you come I. Here you belittle people With false truths, I proved that you lied about my belief, and you continue to deny that I have even shared what lies you have said,

one More time, ignore me, I am done with this little trade, you will not even admit your own sins, so how dare you judge others, remove the plank.

from now on I will just do what I have done in the past and expose when you falsely accuse others of doing or believing something they do not

i will pray for you.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Slander: the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.

You‘ve never done this.

Bull!

you and him are two peas and a pod, and you also just exposed yourself,

 

[EleventhHour]

@preacher4truth

i am not warning you again to stop with your remarks, your war against me and a few other peopleis out of hand, every time you come I. Here you belittle people With false truths, I proved that you lied about my belief, and you continue to deny that I have even shared what lies you have said,

one More time, ignore me, I am done with this little trade, you will not even admit your own sins, so how dare you judge others, remove the plank.

from now on I will just do what I have done in the past and expose when you falsely accuse others of doing or believing something they do not

i will pray for you.

The only thing they have displayed is how eager they are to showcase everyone else's sins and not admit their own....speaks volumes!

 

[jackrosie]

The only thing they have displayed is how eager they are to showcase everyone else's sins and not admit their own....speaks volumes!

I couldn’t agree more!

 

[Susanna]

The only thing they have displayed is how eager they are to showcase everyone else's sins and not admit their own....speaks volumes!

I suppose they can’t help it.

It’s interesting, though, to see how much energy they are using in their efforts to cause division. This thread is just one of their venues.

 

[PennEd]

and Solomon still ended up in Hell. At one time, Solomon was Saved and all he did was for the Glory of God. And look at where he is now!

Where did you get that Solomon is in hell?

You made that up, because it isn’t in Scripture.

 

[mailmandan]

OSAS is full of them. Or circular logic like if you’re saved you’ll never fall away and if you fall away you were never saved.

Mailmandan said no true christian refuses to confess sin revealed by the Holy Spirit. So I asked if a professing true christian refuses to do so (like those who think all future sins are already forgiven with no confession and repentance required) are they then not tell a true christian? It’s pretty obvious he doesn’t want to think about that one. He just keeps talking about ever confessing which is not what I asked.

Attacking OSAS and stirring up contention seems to be your main purpose here.

 

[Duskey]

Have a good night.

I'm not interested in playing games.

And yet your back and forth correspondence with @Sackcloth-N-Ashes is a game. You know full well the intent of his/her questions. It’s to point out your hypocrisy.

You claim not to sin, yet when you do sin its not willful on your part, so in your eyes you remain sinless. Wake up. God will not be mocked.