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*Sits in the corner eating his popcorn and watching @eternally-gratefull and @preacher4truth exchange verbal grenades*
I'm never going to catch up on these posts if you two don't stop quarreling.
I'm never going to catch up on these posts if you two don't stop quarreling.
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That has nothing to do with you keeping up.
My apologies since you feel I've thrown verbal grenades. Pretty much trying to get him to end the insults, misrepresentations, claiming I've stated things I don't believe. He really needs to end that, he has zero evidence to support any of it.
IOW it's been a bit of defense while trying to get him to man up and end this, while owning his proven teachings he denies. I will offer his own words proving this when I get around to it. This will end his accusation that I'm lying about his teachings.
Now, you better duck @Fastfredy0; "Incoming!"
My apologies since you feel I've thrown verbal grenades. Pretty much trying to get him to end the insults, misrepresentations, claiming I've stated things I don't believe. He really needs to end that, he has zero evidence to support any of it.
IOW it's been a bit of defense while trying to get him to man up and end this, while owning his proven teachings he denies. I will offer his own words proving this when I get around to it. This will end his accusation that I'm lying about his teachings.
Now, you better duck @Fastfredy0; "Incoming!"
I do not mind having an honest debate with someone even when we disagree, but one thing I can not stand is a person who gets mad and slanders people just because they disagree with him, I have not let it slide, and I will not let it slide
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thats just it, I did not do something, I said yes, but I did not come to that decision of my own effort, it was god working in me, and when I did say yes, god did all the work of saving me,
it was not me plus God, it was god saying he loved me and wants to save me and he sent his son to,die for me because I deserve eternal death, and if I will stand back and let him, he will save me
effort is what one does when the expend energy, not one ounce of energy was expended when I said yes by my own, but God expended so much in the completed process of bringing me to faith and doing the work to save me, and is continuing to transform me, not because I am expending energy in faith, but because I am at rest, watching him do a powerful thing
it was not me plus God, it was god saying he loved me and wants to save me and he sent his son to,die for me because I deserve eternal death, and if I will stand back and let him, he will save me
effort is what one does when the expend energy, not one ounce of energy was expended when I said yes by my own, but God expended so much in the completed process of bringing me to faith and doing the work to save me, and is continuing to transform me, not because I am expending energy in faith, but because I am at rest, watching him do a powerful thing
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Absolutely.
And this garners respect to each other; to disagree without resorting to childish behavior and hurtful language.
I have posted LIKES to some on the OSAS side, but I get nothing but red X's from most of them all day.
And this garners respect to each other; to disagree without resorting to childish behavior and hurtful language.
I have posted LIKES to some on the OSAS side, but I get nothing but red X's from most of them all day.
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You've been anything but honest, totally misrepresenting me, and denying your own teachings, calling me what? A liar? Right? Then threatening to report me? That's really callow, I mean really callow bro.
One thing, I don't lie. I know what you teach, and have it in your own words.
Now. I did happen to call you a coward when you had me on ignore, and you know why don't you? What were you doing when you had me on ignore? Insulting, name calling and the like.
Right? Admit it. Wasn't that what you were doing? Certainly.
And we weren't even in dialog. That's he behavior of you that I am calling out, then calling me a liar today? Time for you to man up and own up.
One thing, I don't lie. I know what you teach, and have it in your own words.
Now. I did happen to call you a coward when you had me on ignore, and you know why don't you? What were you doing when you had me on ignore? Insulting, name calling and the like.
Right? Admit it. Wasn't that what you were doing? Certainly.
And we weren't even in dialog. That's he behavior of you that I am calling out, then calling me a liar today? Time for you to man up and own up.
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Dude you have lied about me, about others and your slander is so deep you can not even fathom it
you have no idea what. Teach you prove it every time you open your mouth about me, you keep telling everyone your going to prove it, yet never do you prove your point
i could care less if you think i am a coward, your a nobody, if you calling me a coward hurts me I have way more problems than You,
the fact is, you sit here and scream how DC and others slander attack and do all these things, yet you continually do it yourself, you can’t stand it when someone stands up to you. That’s why i keep doing it to expose you and every time you prove me right.
it was not me who was put in time out because I attacked people I think you need to own up to what you do, but you have yet since I met you even hinted you made a mistake, I do not think you ever will
but if you think I am gonna sit here while you continue to do what you always do, well think again.
i told you months ago to put me on ignore, you do not do it, so stop complaining when I call you out
you have no idea what. Teach you prove it every time you open your mouth about me, you keep telling everyone your going to prove it, yet never do you prove your point
i could care less if you think i am a coward, your a nobody, if you calling me a coward hurts me I have way more problems than You,
the fact is, you sit here and scream how DC and others slander attack and do all these things, yet you continually do it yourself, you can’t stand it when someone stands up to you. That’s why i keep doing it to expose you and every time you prove me right.
it was not me who was put in time out because I attacked people I think you need to own up to what you do, but you have yet since I met you even hinted you made a mistake, I do not think you ever will
but if you think I am gonna sit here while you continue to do what you always do, well think again.
i told you months ago to put me on ignore, you do not do it, so stop complaining when I call you out
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Then, in the area his will is not completed He is not sovereign (supreme ruler); rather, the one that does something contrary to God's will is sovereign in that area. Which makes on ask, "what are the areas that God's will is not done and why"?
Are you saying God cannot cause someone to love Him? If so, why is this power beyond God? Where did this power originate? ex nihilo nihil "nothing comes from nothing"
Are you saying God cannot cause someone to love Him? If so, why is this power beyond God? Where did this power originate? ex nihilo nihil "nothing comes from nothing"
“For if we sin deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire which will consume the adversaries.
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That is not discussing the Law!
The Law was never the "Knowledge of Truth."
Christ is the "Knowledge of Truth!"
Therefore, this verse should read:
“For if we sin deliberately after receiving (CHRIST), there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire which will consume the adversaries.
Christ is our Sacrifice for sins and this verse is not about the Law!
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The sin he is talking about is returning to law
your trying to pull a verse out of context, the whole book of hebrews is to explain grace vs law, why the law is weak, why the new way is better and the dangers of returning to law.
what saddens me now is you must think your sin are accidents, or oppsies, do you tell that to God? Oops, i Am sorry God that was an accident I did not mean to do that that was not my will?
your trying to pull a verse out of context, the whole book of hebrews is to explain grace vs law, why the law is weak, why the new way is better and the dangers of returning to law.
what saddens me now is you must think your sin are accidents, or oppsies, do you tell that to God? Oops, i Am sorry God that was an accident I did not mean to do that that was not my will?
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