Unless you acknowledge and address the points I raise we will go around in circles my friend as you will find I have answered all your points, you're either outright informing my reasoning or fail to grasp the things I say. You claim I cannot explain the issues you raise but I have done exactly that and have even posed you questions on these issue and you simply evade answering the questions. in regards to points you raise but.
As I've already stated, Hebrews 1:1,2 and 1 Cor 8:6 clearly express the Father created the world through Jesus, I even asked you what person of the trinity it was when it mentioned "God" in Hebrews 1:1, you failed to answer the question, if you did read the text and answer it you would have seen that it expresses the Father created the universe through Jesus, this is also what 1 Cor 8:6 states, as seen below.
(Heb 1:1,2) "In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.."
(1 Cor 8:6) "yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.."
John 1:3 and Col 1:16 both use Greek words that carry the connotations that things were created through Jesus, these Greek passive words along with others scripture, such as Heb 1:1,2 and 1 Cor 8:6, show without a shadow of a doubt that things were created through Jesus as they verses clearly state.
What translation are you reading from that expresses Jesus is called creator by the Father in Rev 3:14, do you care to show me please?
THE ABOVE HAS ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, the only thing that remains is you answering my questions.
In Hebrews 1:1-5, is the 'God' who is mentioned in v1 as having a Son ("his Son" v1), and being the 'Father' to this son in v5 ("
which one of the angels did God ever say: “You are my son; today I have become your father") the first person of the trinity the Father?
Your know what's ironic NWL? Your making a issue out of two prepositions, "by" and "through" to convince us that these two words from your point of view means that the Father just used Jesus has a helper so Jesus Christ could not be God Himself.
Not to mention that in your theology Jesus was already inferior to His Father because you "deemed" Him a god at John 1:1. Now, you quoted Hebrews 1:1-5 and made an issue out of vs2, the part that says, "whom He appointed heir of all things, THROUGH whom also He made the world."
You then failed to exegete Hebrews 1:3. It starts out with the word "And." The word "and" is a conjuction which "adds one thing to another." So what did the writer of Hebrews add in vs3? He said, "And He/Jesus Christ is the radiance of His/God the Father's glory and the EXACT representation of His/God the Father's nature/person, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high."
The Greek word "hypostasis" used here not only means "nature" or "person" it means the "substancial quality, nature, or a person or thing. So the writer of Hebrews is saying tha the Son of God Jesus Christ has the same nature of His Father who is of course God. This makes complete sense because a son always bears the same nature as his father.
Jesus Christ did not have a biological Father, His Father was deity. So Jesus was deity/God on His Father's side and human as the Son of Man on His mother's side. This is also why John 3:16 says, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life."
Christians are "adopted" sons of God and none of us Christians are the one and only Son of God. When one becomes a Christian He receives God's nature but we do not have the attributes that make us the one and only God. Because of Hebrews 1:3 it follows that Jesus (at vs4) would have a much bertter name than the angels. And this is why at vs5 Jesus are not called THEE" sons of God. And this is why at vs6 God the Father says the angels are suppose to worship Jesus, including the angel Michael. (At least Charles Rusself got this right, until some new revelation light changed his mind".
This is also why at Hebrews 1:10 the Father says, "Lord/that is Jesus Christ, in the beginning did lay the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the words of Thy hands." In perfect harmony with Isaiah 44:24 where God said He did it "All alone" and "By Himself." There is no way you can get yourself out of the dilema you and your organization put yourselves in.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto