Not By Works

[DorothyMae]

When God spoke/testified to my spirit......I could not resist and follow him, fell in Love with him....explain that?x

Very uncomplimentary picture of God. He forced himself on you, the weaker party.

 

[DorothyMae]

I was also called by the Lord to carry out his will for my life...it was personal,he showed me it,manifested in my heart......but it has taken 28 yrs for him to get me to submit....I know I am now ready to fully surrender to him in that area.

Better late than never.

 

[DorothyMae]

When a person becomes saved....works follow...because you are alive in Christ.

But you said it took you 28 years. Isn’t there a disconnect there? And if you couldn’t resist Him, why did it take 28years? Sounds very much like you were resisting Him.

 

[DorothyMae]

The other day you were chirping about people who embrace eternal security as being focused on feelings rather than obedience. Now you’re saying our feelings are few and far between. So which is it, are we focused on feelings or are our feelings few and far between?

I didn’t say feelings altogether are few and far between. But waiting til doing God’s will only when it happens to line up with your own desire mean you won’t be doing his will much.

There is no contrast with OSAS which certainly appeals to the desire to have a legal confirmation of one’s eternal destiny. That is a comfort to feelings.

 

[DorothyMae]

Is that really what you think?? I pray that God will heal your heart and open your eyes to the truth.

Well that is what I read here. Some Osas members allow themselves wide manner of insulting texts if the recipient is not one of them. Some write they don’t even care. So under the cloak evil is allowed.

 

[DorothyMae]

Someone else was here years ago who repeatedly insisted Jesus rode a horse most everywhere instead of walking, simply because in their mind it would have been more convenient for Him to do so. Apparently it made no sense to them, despite what we are told in Scripture, that by land, walking was His main method of transportation

Never heard that one.

 

[Magenta]

Never heard that one.

They were eventually banned Not for that, though. . .

 

[DorothyMae]

That doesn’t make sense Dorothy.....with respect.

Sorry, auto spell messed it up. It made no sense as a result.

 

[DorothyMae]

They were eventually banned Not for that, though. . .

I’ll keep that in mind. No horsing around with Jesus’ mode of transportation. 😉

 

[Magenta]

I didn’t say feelings altogether are few and far between. But waiting til doing God’s will only when it happens to line up with your own desire mean you won’t be doing his will much..

God gives us new desires

 

[DorothyMae]

Dottie

in Genesis it says that Adam was with her when she ate.

Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Showing that he knew what he was doing yet he ate anyway. He wasn’t deceived by the serpent.

Didn’t answer my question.

 

[DorothyMae]

They will not work.

I don’t believe in works salvation so that works for me.

 

[DorothyMae]

God gives us new desires

Do you find you have the desire to do the will of God 24/7? Why do Christians fight (even killed other believers over doctrine, not crime) if God is giving them all wonderful new desires?

Do you see the difference between reality and the theology? Do you want to know why the theology doesn’t explain reality?

 

[DorothyMae]

YHWH is the Christ. So yes, He does appear in the gospel of St. John.

Sorry but it does not appear in the NT. We are talking whether a word is in the text and it is not. You cannot point to a meaning that is the same but a different word. The word was NEVER used by the apostles nor the Christ.

 

[jackrosie]

But you said it took you 28 years. Isn’t there a disconnect there? And if you couldn’t resist Him, why did it take 28years? Sounds very much like you were resisting Him.

You see Dorothy....this is where you don’t understand.

He gave me a vision,I am not going into details.....it was a vision for me personally....it has taken the Lord 28yrs to work in me...I couldn’t accept my vision in my head because it seemed impossible.

Now my faith has grown in those yrs .....plus he has been preparing me for what I am about to receive,....I am ready to fully surrender to that vision.
Do you understand now?....if not don’t worry...I understand it and that is all that matters.

 

[Magenta]

Do you find you have the desire to do the will of God 24/7? Why do Christians fight (even killed other believers over doctrine, not crime) if God is giving them all wonderful new desires?

Do you see the difference between reality and the theology? Do you want to know why the theology doesn’t explain reality?

I do not think about any one thing 24/7. I have surrendered my will and my life to Him, and trust Him to guide me.

 

[Micaiah-imla]

Some Osas members allow themselves wide manner of insulting texts if the recipient is not one of them.

I have come to understand that some of them view those who challenge the Once Saved Always Saved doctrine as down right truth deniers with malicious intent.

I choose to view all of them as deceived without malicious intent and exercise patience and forbearance towards them.

But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another (Galatians 5:15).

 

[jackrosie]

Very uncomplimentary picture of God. He forced himself on you, the weaker party.

Dorothy..what you say here..is completely false.

With the greatest of respect.....once again you don’t know what “Born again “ means......correct me someone if this is wrong.
You remind me of someone who is still in the world....

 

[jackrosie]

You are sowing discord in this thread DorothyMae and to think I also joined you a while back.

 

[Duskey]

There is no contrast with OSAS which certainly appeals to the desire to have a legal confirmation of one’s eternal destiny.

Whatever that means.