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jackrosie said:
I never said yes.....but mine was extremely personal when I was saved..I did a lot of talking..but I can’t remember saying yes.x....I do remember saying what right do I have to love.Jesus was also in the conversation...I was talking about him to myself.
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Did you say no thank you? Or did you receive it?
 
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I was also called by the Lord to carry out his will for my life...it was personal,he showed me it,manifested in my heart......but it has taken 28 yrs for him to get me to submit....I know I am now ready to fully surrender to him in that area.
 
jackrosie said:
It just happened my friend.....I received Him straight away...like Rosemaryx...hard to explain.

I keep a lot to myself,because I know some wouldn’t believe what I say....which is fine.
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It’s ok

you said yes,, even if you did not say the word..

amen and amen! praise God
 
eternally-gratefull said:
Did you say no thank you? Or did you receive it?
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Looking back to 2015 when God was calling me , I did not know it , yet I was so drawn to Him...
I remember saying to God " I know of Your Son , but I do not know Him " , it was in the time I was under the mental health system , I was in a world of my own , tormented by Satan in a serious way...
I remember buying a bible , and seeing my sins , I was broken for months , and it took me a good long while to understand why Jesus died for me , and once I saw that , I came and said " Yes LORD , I am a sinner , and agreed with all He was showing me , and today , I love Him more and more as I keep seeking Him to be like Him , although I fail so many times , I am His , and He is mine Amen...
...xox...
 
Refutation if irrestible grace

  • "Why do you call me Lord & don't do what I say" Lk 6:46 Why? God willed it that way!
  • "Whosoever believes shall be saved" Jn 3:16 (Rather whosoever God makes a believer)
  • "Whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Re 22:17
  • "And whosoever will not receive you, when you go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them." Lk 9:5 (Testimony against God you mean)
  • "Come to me you who are heavy laden and I will give you rest" Mt 11:28

Even though we "feel" like we could not resist we must look at it from a scripture lens.

God receives no Glory at all when men are compulsed to choose Him... it is by the choice to follow that God is glorified, but Calvinist will deny this.

God only loves only some unto salvation... a capricious, morally ambiguous God. Not the God of the Bible.
 
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Rosemaryx said:
Serious question , looking to learn :)...
Is God`s calling not irresistible , I mean , when Jesus called Matthew , Peter , Andrew etc , did they not just drop their nets and follow , and Matthew left his stall and followed...
I see this calling irresistible , but like I said , I am still learning...
Is the elect different from the calling of God to others?...
...xox...
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The men you named were already saved and immersed....the "irresistible grace" they peddle is under the banner of salvation....not the call to follow Jesus as apostles......

There are two words that apply to the saved in particular, saints and elect....One (saints) is who we are in Christ as Holy, the other (elect) is who we are as chosen.

They say GOD said person A was chosen to be saved by God before the world was cast down....and person B was SOL and destined to burn in hell.....

I disagree with that view which is not biblical....what is BIBLICAL IS THE FOLLOWING

a. God determined before the casting down of the world to CHOSE all who come to him through his son...this is the election

1. God is under no obligation to call those that will not believe

2. God knows who will and who will not

3. MANY ARE CALLED, FEW ARE CHOSEN

many is not ALL
THE FEW of the MANY is even less
Why are some called but they do not make the FEW CHOSEN

Because GRACE CAN BE RESISTED some MEN REFUSE the call even though it is irrevocable.....

I HAVE SEEN THIS with my own eyes....A person CALLED, CONVICTED by the call, proven that God was calling them and yet they hardened their heart and resisted/rejected

Like the Roman....ALMOST THOU PERSUADEST ME....he said...

And the RICH young ruler walked away LOST though obviously convicted!
 
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Rosemaryx said:
Looking back to 2015 when God was calling me , I did not know it , yet I was so drawn to Him...
I remember saying to God " I know of Your Son , but I do not know Him " , it was in the time I was under the mental health system , I was in a world of my own , tormented by Satan in a serious way...
I remember buying a bible , and seeing my sins , I was broken for months , and it took me a good long while to understand why Jesus died for me , and once I saw that , I came and said " Yes LORD , I am a sinner , and agreed with all He was showing me , and today , I love Him more and more as I keep seeking Him to be like Him , although I fail so many times , I am His , and He is mine Amen...
...xox...
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Amen sis. Some people go through this for years before they finally say yes. If there is any chance god will keep drawing
 
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dcontroversal said:
They say GOD said person A was chosen to be saved by God before the world was cast down....and person B was SOL and destined to burn in hell.....
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Not Biblical at all .... amazes me that this faulty view even gained foothold at all in men's thinking.... but then John Calvin did rule with an iron fist.

I know the standard line the Calvinist will state to refute this is "person B was on His way to hell anyway"
 
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I surrendered my heart to Jesus....my vocabulary is quite limited....maybe that is why some misunderstand what I type..

It may come across as my feelings..but it’s not meant that way.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Amen sis. Some people go through this for years before they finally say yes. If there is any chance god will keep drawing
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What blows my mind is the fact that even the CALLING of God is irrevocable.....Once he calls, that call is good up unto the point of faith/salvation and or rejectionary death if you will.....and the gifts are also irrevocable...salvation being one such gift....eternal security!
 
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Even though I have never met Jesus...I know him....and I don’t mean I know his thoughts....no I don’t know that.

I know him because he resides in my Spirit..took a while to trust him though.
 
jackrosie said:
I surrendered my heart to Jesus....my vocabulary is quite limited....maybe that is why some misunderstand what I type..

It may come across as my feelings..but it’s not meant that way.
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@jackrosie ...
The love you have for our LORD shines right out from the computer for all to see :)...
I to cannot express myself to well a lot of the time , but our brothers & sisters do get to know our personalities , and come to understand what we mean...
...xox...
 
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EleventhHour said:
And to teach the cross was only for the elect ... another sickening view not in the scripture

"Behold the LAMB OF GOD, which TAKETH AWAY THE SIN OF THE WORLD." (John 1:29)

Somehow world becomes only believers?
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WOW , that is shocking , how did he come to that conclusion...
...xox...
 
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