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Everyone is a sinner. Everyone who places their faith in Jesus Christ is a redeemed sinner saved by grace through faith.
There are those who teach He is doing good works and changing them such that they cannot be the winner they were no matter how they actually live.
 
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we sin because people want things. things that are not of God always. sometimes they are, sometimes they might seem to be but we are deluded somewhat or just wanting our own way.


if you do not pick up your cross daily you are not crucifing the sin nature. picking up a cross can be hard work, but with the mind of Christ (humble, meek, lowly, in submission to God) carrying the cross becomes easier.


Rest for the Weary

…28Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”…
I agree.
 

Magenta

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You said God will never cast out a believer.

This is true on the condition that the believer follows the doctrine prescribed in the word of God.

As for such as turn aside unto their crooked ways, the LORD shall lead them forth with the workers of iniquity... (Psalm 125:5).

And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness (Matthew 25:30).

I will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers (Luke 12:46).
For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person's work. If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved - even though only as one escaping through the flames. 1 Corinthians 3:11-15
 
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I am in God’s truth...I have great peace.......around you I am miserable..because you teach false...I don’t mean to Be nasty.

I pray God wakes you up as he did me to his truth.
From your posts you mean full well to behave as your new teacher does and give yourself full license to do so. You will become more and more like him so it’s up to you. The ability to respond kindly to words you don’t like will diminish. Your character will be affected.
 
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It cannot be called splitting hairs when Scripture explicitly states that Adam was not deceived.

And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
1 Timothy 2:14
Adam likely knew what he was doing.
 
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That’s not what I said. No NT writer used that word in anything said or written. That is the truth. You add it to the text.
Show me where I said it was in the text.

That’s right, I didn’t.

Once again: Obviously you haven’t bothered to read the text as it clearly shows Christ is YHWH. But you wouldn’t waste your time actually reading the text to see what John said.
 
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Sure that is why you used the word "miserable" and not mourned.

By the way "mourned" and "miserable" are two entirely different words and you are not fooling anyone.

And sin by its very nature is "destructive" and so yes it makes people miserable whether they themselves know it or not.
If you had ever mourned you’d know that those mourning and in very deep misery.
 
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Show me where I said it was in the text.

That’s right, I didn’t.

Once again: Obviously you haven’t bothered to read the text as it clearly shows Christ is YHWH. But you wouldn’t waste your time actually reading the text to see what John said.
Since no NT writer ever said that, you’re adding it. Christ is God, not only of the Hebrews but all the names He ever assumed.
 
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Likely opens the possibility of God then punishing them unjustly. I would not say "likely."
That isn’t what I said. I was referring solely to Adams state of mind which is not described. Eve was deceived. Adam was likely not.
 

Magenta

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That isn’t what I said. I was referring solely to Adams state of mind which is not described. Eve was deceived. Adam was likely not.
I didn't say you said it. Anyone can see that. You said Adam likely knew, and I said I would not use that term and gave the reason why.

PLUS, Scripture explicitly states that Adam was NOT deceived.

And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1 Tim 2:14
 
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From your posts you mean full well to behave as your new teacher does and give yourself full license to do so. You will become more and more like him so it’s up to you. The ability to respond kindly to words you don’t like will diminish. Your character will be affected.
She will become like 11 very soon, if not already. ;)
 
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I don’t.

We never sweat to accomplish anything. All is done by grace through faith. Otherwise, it’s man trying rather than man dying.
If you wait until you feel like obeying the teachings of Christ you are likely not to do so often... only when his will and your will happen to be the same.