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Rosemaryx

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EleventhHour said:
I never stated otherwise :).. however the word supernatural is loaded term now a days.
I think there are better words we can use.
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Weel , no words entered my mind , but those that I see when Jesus calmed the storm , and that is He who is God...
...xox...
 
Rosemaryx

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preacher4truth said:
It's refreshing to see you standing on solid ground, not allowing what others teach to sway you, instead you stand on Biblical truth. :)
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All the glory to Go Amen...
But many on here including yourself have shown me great truths , but more so the Holy Spirit , and when I read that about Jesus calming the storm , I was shown in awe How He is God over everything...
...xox...
 
walknlight

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dcontroversal said:
God only chastens children whom he loves....He may whip our butts, but he will never cast us away.
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Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
 
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DorothyMae said:
Ah, you don’t know the Bible well and don’t know the passage I was referring to. That’s not it.

“You have become arrogant and have not mourned instead, so that the one who had done this deed would be removed from your midst.”

They tolerated sin and were not mourning at all.

The idea that sinning makes christians miserable is absurd.
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Sure that is why you used the word "miserable" and not mourned.

By the way "mourned" and "miserable" are two entirely different words and you are not fooling anyone.

And sin by its very nature is "destructive" and so yes it makes people miserable whether they themselves know it or not.
 
jackrosie

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I always thought spiritual and supernatural were the same....I had a spiritual encounter with God...as God is spirit.
 
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jackrosie said:
I always thought spiritual and supernatural were the same....I had a spiritual encounter with God...as God is spirit.
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Spiritual.. Any kind of contact with a spirit..

Supernatural.. Any happening not limited / governed by the Laws of nature of our universe creation..
 
Duskey

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DorothyMae said:
If you tell a baby Christian that sinning now makes them miserable INSTEAD of offering a pleasure because they are. ow a christian, and they find in the next 30 minutes they sinned because it offered a pleasure and are only a bit sorry, or worse, they watch a Christian say or do something out of green jealousy and observe no misery at all but justification, how are they going to deal with it? This might explain why she who tells this untruth accepts that Christians doubt their salvation after all. This theory sets up a “works” salvation and is false.

She says, true christians feel miserable when they sin. So the ew christian sins and doesn’t feel miserable. What can they conclude except they maybe aren’t a true christian?

I feel very sorry for those who refuse the truth about themselves. We sin because it offers us pleasure. We sometimes feel something between guilt and nothing afterwards. We are still true christians.
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Everyone is a sinner. Everyone who places their faith in Jesus Christ is a redeemed sinner saved by grace through faith.
 
Duskey

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jackrosie said:
Dorothy...I can’t engage with you....your teaching is false....dcontroversal is my teacher now....God woke me up.also eternally grateful....their teaching is sound and I thank God for them on here.....because they are fiercely protective of the born again.....I don’t mean to offend you.....I say this in love.....you just confuse everyone.

I have great peace since I submitted to their teaching.,..
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Interesting that someone found this funny. Would love to see their reasoning.
 
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preacher4truth said:
Wow, talk about an inept Christology. Maybe less arguing through your keyboard and a little more Scripture reading? But I digress, such theological ineptness is par for the course. Both you and @dcontroversal need a lesson in the hypostatic union, and a serious brushing up on the Gospel itself. :)
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I see your back. And nothing changed
 
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