The Riddle of Steel

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Batteries are interesting, but just not as important strategically as steel. Though you could probably make a lot of money in this trade since Babylon needs lithium-ion to power her kids' smartphones so they can fornicate with the most wicked men and women on Tinder.
China owns a little more than half the worlds lithium ore, electric cars and many others things are not that far off, world oil reserves are set to end in 43 years if things go that far. steel isn’t much but a front.
 
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China owns a little more than half the worlds lithium ore, electric cars and many others things are not that far off, world oil reserves are set to end in 43 years if things go that far. steel isn’t much but a front.
Oil was supposed to end this year lol, that was a big old lie to justify price gouging back in the 2000s, though yes oil is a pretty important strategic resource too. Steel however is no front, it is always very intimately connected with the nations and their activities. Steel is very often overlooked in favor of oil for theorists and watchers alike, but it is the Riddle of Steel that reveals so very much because it drives all those other industries. It is no accident that as China has become the world leader in steel production by a mind-blowing margin that it also became so very powerful in other industries.
 
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Well I stayed up far too long, but I'll leave another piece of the puzzle before I go to bed.


"There's a theory that if a country doesn't have steel, then it doesn't have a country."

---President Donald Trump
 
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Oil was supposed to end this year lol, that was a big old lie to justify price gouging back in the 2000s, though yes oil is a pretty important strategic resource too. Steel however is no front, it is always very intimately connected with the nations and their activities. Steel is very often overlooked in favor of oil for theorists and watchers alike, but it is the Riddle of Steel that reveals so very much because it drives all those other industries. It is no accident that as China has become the world leader in steel production by a mind-blowing margin that it also became so very powerful in other industries.
I don’t know where your heard oil to run out this year was way off, the big under ground lakes of oil will run out in around 40 years there will still be some left but not enough to run all the gas cars they will bye bye no doubt.

hard plastic can easily replace steel it’s been doing it and that technically is improving, one day a whole car will be plastic running on batteries. sure steel sales will still be around there are tons and tons of iron ore. It’s the reserves that become the bigger ticket to mass control. China controls 51% of Australia mines, trying to control Chile reserves which is the worlds largest it has already gotten 2 bids in the U.S. one worth 4.1 billion and another 160 million dollar stake in SQM.
 
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I don’t know where your heard oil to run out this year was way off, the big under ground lakes of oil will run out in around 40 years there will still be some left but not enough to run all the gas cars they will bye bye no doubt.

hard plastic can easily replace steel it’s been doing it and that technically is improving, one day a whole car will be plastic running on batteries. sure steel sales will still be around there are tons and tons of iron ore. It’s the reserves that become the bigger ticket to mass control. China controls 51% of Australia mines, trying to control Chile reserves which is the worlds largest it has already gotten 2 bids in the U.S. one worth 4.1 billion and another 160 million dollar stake in SQM.
Back in the 2000s it was very popularly theorized that oil would peak out and start to run out in 2020.

Yes plastic is important and this is where a lot of oil is very important in the production of plastics. Still though plastic cannot replace steel. Steel is more necessary to all nations and intimately linked to their rise and fall. Steel drives economies, industries, and militaries. I will post more on this tomorrow, another piece of this massive puzzle that one might notice is how all of modern history's biggest power players pursued the Riddle of Steel.
 
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Back in the 2000s it was very popularly theorized that oil would peak out and start to run out in 2020.

Yes plastic is important and this is where a lot of oil is very important in the production of plastics. Still though plastic cannot replace steel. Steel is more necessary to all nations and intimately linked to their rise and fall. Steel drives economies, industries, and militaries. I will post more on this tomorrow, another piece of this massive puzzle that one might notice is how all of modern history's biggest power players pursued the Riddle of Steel.
If steel drives economies why then is the U.S. still at the top, yes China is second but the U.S. is far from being a large steel producer anymore, maybe back in history you could look but today America doesn’t look at producing a lot of steel yet remains at the top.
 

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The riddle of steel represents the building of infrastructure that facilitates production of military weapons and equipment in preparation of war.
 
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The riddle of steel represents the building of infrastructure that facilitates production of military weapons and equipment in preparation of war.
In America that equals to less than one percent of domestic steel output and the U.S. has the largest navy it doesn’t take a mass amount of steel to build weapons and equipment.
 

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I don’t know where your heard oil to run out this year was way off, the big under ground lakes of oil will run out in around 40 years there will still be some left but not enough to run all the gas cars they will bye bye no doubt.

hard plastic can easily replace steel it’s been doing it and that technically is improving, one day a whole car will be plastic running on batteries. sure steel sales will still be around there are tons and tons of iron ore. It’s the reserves that become the bigger ticket to mass control. China controls 51% of Australia mines, trying to control Chile reserves which is the worlds largest it has already gotten 2 bids in the U.S. one worth 4.1 billion and another 160 million dollar stake in SQM.
I read a few years ago that the known proved oil reserves, based on current population growth and trends will last at least 500 years. Now, that's just the proven oil reserves and not accounting for the discovery of additional sources of oil.
 
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I read a few years ago that the known proved oil reserves, based on current population growth and trends will last at least 500 years. Now, that's just the proven oil reserves and not accounting for the discovery of additional sources of oil.
500 years no not at all it’s about 40 years, you can watch the barrels being used up in real time. Maybe it was referring to natural gas

https://www.worldometers.info/
 

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In America that equals to less than one percent of domestic steel output and the U.S. has the largest navy it doesn’t take a mass amount of steel to build weapons and equipment.
That may be true but the infrastructure that facilitates the manufacture of weapons and equipment does require steel. This encompasses thousands of buildings, containing machinery and vehicles to transport raw materials and finished product.
 
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That may be true but the infrastructure that facilitates the manufacture of weapons and equipment does require steel. This encompasses thousands of buildings, containing machinery and vehicles to transport raw materials and finished product.
For a county starting from scratch maybe
 
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I live near a navy yard built in 1781, yes the building have been upgraded new ones built but some of those was in the 40’s.
 

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500 years no not at all it’s about 40 years, you can watch the barrels being used up in real time. Maybe it was referring to natural gas

https://www.worldometers.info/
Just did a googly and the thing that I clicked on said that the oil will run dry in 53 years. If that is true WW3 will be commencing shortly to control this finite resource. I believe that one reason Japan entered WW2 was because lack of oil resources. Natural gas was listed at 54 years and coal at 110 years.

Just read another study that stated that the known coal reserves, a main component in the manufacture of steel, in the US, based on current consumption, will last 332 years. Obviously, there is a lot of speculation to ascertain even a remote estimate of these natural resource commodities. Coal can be converted to oil but an exorbitant cost utilizing current technology and manufacturing processes.

Also, just read another study that stated that the world's oil will run dry in less than 5 years. I did not find that information to be credible.
 
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Just did a googly and the thing that I clicked on said that the oil will run dry in 53 years. If that is true WW3 will be commencing shortly to control this finite resource. I believe that one reason Japan entered WW2 was because lack of oil resources. Natural gas was listed at 54 years and coal at 110 years.

Just read another study that stated that the known coal reserves, a main component in the manufacture of steel, in the US, based on current consumption, will last 332 years. Obviously, there is a lot of speculation to ascertain even a remote estimate of these natural resource commodities. Coal can be converted to oil but an exorbitant cost utilizing current technology and manufacturing processes.

Also, just read another study that stated that the world's oil will run dry in less than 5 years. I did not find that information to be credible.
I’ve been reading there’s a few more other metals to run out sooner than later, lead, silver and gold, even iron ore I’ve read India is already approaching that mark.
 

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Owning private property and/or being allowed to profit from your own labors are not new age beliefs, at least, not exclusively.
They date back to the days of Cain. (How do you fatten up livestock, by feeding them thorns and thistle or with grains)
In fact they are Biblical principles :) Communism opposes both.
While reflected within the scriptures, if you notice in the scriptures of Genesis they are seen in the account of Joseph. People owned land and profited from the own labor, although they were required to tithed to Pharaoh (which some people call an income tax). In them you can see that the people were allowed to own private property and profit from their own labor. Joseph was able to gain ownership of all the private property of the peoples by a couple of crop failures, well all of the properties except those own by priests who Pharaoh required no tithes from.

Are you sure Communism opposes the principles of the Bible?
33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
Acts 4:33-35

So who owned the houses they live in after they sold them and the money to the apostles?
It is interesting to see how Britain has consistently dominated in the manufacture of steel.
All the guns in the world aren't much good unless you have copper for munitions. A nation amassing copper is preparing for war. Look who has been amassing copper in the last decade and you might understand why Trump's relationship with Putin agitates those that tell us we should hate our enemies.
 
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Well I see an opportunity to match this digression about communism to the subject of the Riddle of Steel, for indeed they are very related. Many of the most notable Communist leaders of the 20th century desired to uncover the Riddle of Steel, even sacrificing millions of lives for this purpose. One of the most famous examples and the results of this quest for steel is Mao Tse Tung and his Great Leap Forward:


 

UnoiAmarah

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An Emperor owns everything in his empire, but I get your point. But if one has to give ownership of the property over to the Church, who sells the property is of little consequence, they still have neither a house nor the money from the sell of the house to acquire another.
 

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An Emperor owns everything in his empire, but I get your point. But if one has to give ownership of the property over to the Church, who sells the property is of little consequence, they still have neither a house nor the money from the sell of the house to acquire another.
Living communally, not every person needed a house of their own, and their relinquishing of their personal property was by choice, not force, a choice from which they also drew benefits. In communism, the state seizes everything whether the individual gives consent or not. They don't have a choice in the matter.