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EleventhHour

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Yup. Fat fingered. Now undone. Thanks. My reputation is hanging by a thread around here as it is lol!
I hear you .... once someone I totally disagreed with on all counts messaged me "Thanks for your support" I am like what no way in h***

I erased that Ribbon mighty quick!! :)
 

cv5

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Philippians 2:12
[12] ...work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

This work must be continued until the redemption of our bodies happens.
Your works may end up falling short of the mark.....

Phil 2:13
For it is God who works in you to will and to act on behalf of His good purpose.
 
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Your works may end up falling short of the mark.....
Yes, if attempted in the flesh. But I am walking in the Spirit; spiritually minded; Because God through Christ gave me power, through believing on his name, to become one of the sons of God (John 1:12).

Phil 2:13
For it is God who works in you to will and to act on behalf of His good purpose.
Amen! Which is why we should be walking in the Spirit for this to be effectual in us.
 

cv5

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Yes, if attempted in the flesh. But I am walking in the Spirit; spiritually minded; Because God through Christ gave me power, through believing on his name, to become one of the sons of God (John 1:12).



Amen! Which is why we should be walking in the Spirit for this to be effectual in us.
So the split-second that you are not walking in the Spirit, God's salvation is no longer effectual, and you have either lost your salvation at that instant, or are heading towards the loss of your salvation either slowly or quickly but inevitably and inexorably? In other words, theoretically, you could gain and lose your salvation, regain and re-lose it a near infinite number of times? On again off again like a light switch? Or is salvation more like a bathtub where God has turned on the salvation faucet, and you have to do your best not to either by accident or on purpose pull the plug because if the water runs out you lose your salvation?

Because this indeed is a brand-new doctrine. I think you need to write a research paper and publish it for peer review.
 

VCO

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I don’t feel as you do but it’s your choice. When you find you don’t understand God please blame the theology you embraced not God. I understand God. I know what He does and why and what He doesn’t do and why. I bet no OSAS believers know this.

One more uninformed false idea about OSAS Theology.

I think it is a SURE THING, that you have misunderstood a great amount Scripture, in my opinion.

Where is your definition of what BORN AGAIN MEANS. Still waiting for that answer in YOUR OWN WORDS.
 

cv5

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I don’t feel as you do but it’s your choice. When you find you don’t understand God please blame the theology you embraced not God. I understand God. I know what He does and why and what He doesn’t do and why. I bet no OSAS believers know this.
That statement might be one of the craziest that I have ever heard on Christian chat.
Next thing you're going to be telling us is that God asked you for some advice.
 
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That statement might be one of the craziest that I have ever heard on Christian chat.
Next thing you're going to be telling us is that God asked you for some advice.
Her arrogancy is sickening.....Note she said.....I UNDERSTAND GOD

That, in and of itself should be a massive red flag to ALL thay she actually has NO UNDERSTANDING OF GOD.....

Isaiah 55 refutes her claim!
 

cv5

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Her arrogancy is sickening.....Note she said.....I UNDERSTAND GOD

That, in and of itself should be a massive red flag to ALL thay she actually has NO UNDERSTANDING OF GOD.....

Isaiah 55 refutes her claim!
Yes a very disturbing statement indeed.....

55:8: For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
55:9: For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
 
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Yes a very disturbing statement indeed.....

55:8: For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
55:9: For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Rom 3:11 there is no one who understands, there is no one who seeks God.
 
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Yes a very disturbing statement indeed.....

55:8: For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
55:9: For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
The tragic truth.....she openly said she was saved without ever hearing the gospel and then says she KNOWS AND UNDERSTANDS GOD.....

and some wonder or malign me because I was cutting her no slack..........

very disturbing indeed!
 
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Her arrogancy is sickening.....Note she said.....I UNDERSTAND GOD

That, in and of itself should be a massive red flag to ALL thay she actually has NO UNDERSTANDING OF GOD.....

Isaiah 55 refutes her claim!
Do they take shifts?

Seems one leave, another creeps in...
 
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The tragic truth.....she openly said she was saved without ever hearing the gospel
Rom 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

God Bless!
 
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Rom 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

God Bless!
Amen to that......NO ONE IS SAVED without hearing the gospel....
 
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He can’t let us go DorothyMae....he’s in our spirit.never to leave or forsake us.

A born again can’t throw their faith away.....
Why does the Bible speak of quenching the Holy Spirit? Why does the Bible talk of the Holy Spirit departing from a man?

Jackrosie, I know the OSAS doctrine. It is not found in scripture so those who believe it can only repeat the doctrine. One even quoted to me a verse and didn’t notice it was in the command form meaning we must DO something.

You know, just like my marriage, I believe I need to love someone (God) and cultivate that relationship (with Him it stands upon obedience) with all that the relationship calls for to be secure.

Let me ask, if I may, do you believe you are required to love God as He defines that to be in order to be his?
 
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Why does the Bible speak of quenching the Holy Spirit? Why does the Bible talk of the Holy Spirit departing from a man?

Jackrosie, I know the OSAS doctrine. It is not found in scripture so those who believe it can only repeat the doctrine. One even quoted to me a verse and didn’t notice it was in the command form meaning we must DO something.

You know, just like my marriage, I believe I need to love someone (God) and cultivate that relationship (with Him it stands upon obedience) with all that the relationship calls for to be secure.

Let me ask, if I may, do you believe you are required to love God as He defines that to be in order to be his?
No one buys your blather.......especially the two following idiocies...

a. I got saved without hearing the gospel

b. I understand God

You done flew the nest.....anyone with eyes can see that you are a fraudulently peddling that which is not found in scripture.....maybe go play your street organ someplace else....no one here is dancing or even listening!