"Not by works" - false!

[eternally-gratefull]

I’m a saint and pursue a lifestyle that testifies to this.

You’re a sinner, so perhaps your lifestyle reflects the same.

So you think you are sinless?

 

[Judges1318]

Hi Judges,how are you holding onto God?
By believing in your mind?

By continuing to trust in the blood of Christ for the forgiveness of sin.
I'm holding onto the faith that God has given me to believe/trust in Christ.
The Bible tells us to hold onto faith, not discard it as the unbeliever/ ex-believer has done.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You already have answered my question...by not answering them.

They have a habit of this. It’s amazing

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Okay let's agree to disagree. I believe God has not predestined people to go to hell.

He has not not heard n the fatalistic sense

 

[eternally-gratefull]

OSAS theology is an act of ventriloquism,and has LOTS of DUMMIES..........puppets!
May God forgive them for they KNOW not what they do,Amen!

Wow really? Your new here right?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It’s understandable.

OSAS does not relate to scripture.

Anyone bewitched by OSAS would naturally be opposed to someone preaching the truth of the Bible.

So sad you think god is a liar and can’t keep his promises

And even sadder you think you can meet his requirement

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Why do you continue to misrepresent my view?
Nobody has the power in and of themselves to trust in Christ.
You can only believe/trust in Christ through the power of God's gift of faith.
That's why the Bible tells us to hold on to faith.
You can't trust in Christ without it.

So if I stop believing it n what you just said

God failed

Because I could never believe myself anyway

I do not misrepresent you. You keep proving me right about everything you try to defend yourself

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Jackie I guess this is the best time to ask this: "speaking of dummies" (me lol) what does OSAS mean

OSAS is an acronym for the term and nice a person is saved they are always saved. Ie. Salvation can. It be lost because it could Never be earned

It has many names

Eternal life

Eternal security

Seal of the spirit

Eternally saved

Justified by grace through faith not if works

To name a few

It means once a person is made alive in Christ and given the spirit as a seal that life is eternal as apposed to conditional

 

[Judges1318]

And I am being completely serious....that I don’t believe that you are born again...no offence meant.

No offense taken. I know I'm completely and totally saved.

It's all about me,me,me,self,self self with you.

You'll have to get past vague cliches like this to understand the role of 'you' in salvation.
I know that the center of your misunderstanding is this matter of 'believing' and who does it for you.

Trust me, if God did your believing for you, he'd do a much better job than you or I have done at it.
God gave us the faith to believe. He provided what we needed so that we can trust him.
That's not a works gospel. Paul clearly puts 'believing/trusting' on the opposite side of the works that can not justify.

 

[Judges1318]

So if I stop believing it n what you just said

God failed

Because I could never believe myself anyway

No, God would fail if he failed at giving you and I the faith to believe/trust in Christ. That he will never do.
You and I fail him if we decide to discard the power of faith he has given us to do our believing/trusting through, choosing to not believe anymore.

 

[Micaiah-imla]

I have yet to see any scripture that does this

Remove your OSAS blindfold.

 

[Micaiah-imla]

So you think you are sinless?

You think you are saintless?

 

[EleventhHour]

No, God would fail if he failed at giving you and I the faith to believe/trust in Christ. That he will never do.
You and I fail him if we decide to discard the power of faith he has given us to do our believing/trusting through, choosing to not believe anymore.

Maintaining your own salvation clear as day in this post.

 

[EleventhHour]

OSAS theology is an act of ventriloquism,and has LOTS of DUMMIES..........puppets!
May God forgive them for they KNOW not what they do,Amen!

Hi "LeastAmongMany" .. back again I see.

The harlot checking in on you.
I have been reading your posts.

 

[Micaiah-imla]

So sad you think god is a liar and can’t keep his promises

And even sadder you think you can meet his requirement

What truly is sad is that you think most of the New Testament doctrine of holiness is a self works Manual.

You will never meet the requirements of holiness believing in OSAS.

 

[sherryt]

OSAS is an acronym for the term and nice a person is saved they are always saved. Ie. Salvation can. It be lost because it could Never be earned

It has many names

Eternal life

Eternal security

Seal of the spirit

Eternally saved

Justified by grace through faith not if works

To name a few

It means once a person is made alive in Christ and given the spirit as a seal that life is eternal as apposed to conditional

WOW - Thank you for explaining

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No, God would fail if he failed at giving you and I the faith to believe/trust in Christ. That he will never do.
You and I fail him if we decide to discard the power of faith he has given us to do our believing/trusting through, choosing to not believe anymore.

So you have to willfully and by your power keep in faith

Got it!

Yep. Power of works

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Remove your OSAS blindfold.

Remove your NOSAS blindfold

 

[Fastfredy0]

Interesting that you disagree with my post that mostly contains scripture that demolishes OSAS.

In your mind you have demolished OSAS. That does not mean you have demolished OSAS.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You think you are saintless?

That’s not an answer
Mod you think you are sinless?