The absurdity and heresy of Preterism
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Those verses are there to illustrate and emphasize God's sovereign choice. They have nothing to do with the rejection of national Israel, they have nothing to do with replacement theology.
Did you forget about Romans chapter 11? Give it a read and try to make sure that your head doesn't explode.
It really is difficult to attack/insult someone who is in complete denial of the facts.
I am. Just fished up a conference call and prayer meeting with my church mates. And in fact you may be interested to know that I told them all about this thread, and how the preterists and amillennialists and replacement theologians had their clock cleaned by those who knew their Bible and were serious students and legitimate believers and just happen to be premillennialists, believed in the rapture, and understood that Israel will be fully and finally redeemed and take eternal possession in the land promised to Abraham.Do something useful while you're waiting.
There is no problem with you being attacked because you are not. The problem is you cannot and have not defended your position using Scripture. We are still waiting for one single solitary quote or verse!
Well I don't agree with everything you have just written but I am thrilled that you actually believe in the rapture though it is a mid TRIB rapture. Thank you for the post.
Have you read the venom that came from Jesus Himself when dealing with the Pharisees?
Blatant ignorance demands venom in return!
I actually do not have any interest in discussing labels. I find that prevent real discussion rather than foster it.
Jesus' coming has nothing whatsoever to do with "personally having the right view".
However Jesus coming FOR YOU has everything to do with personally having the right view.
"Tertullian also has mentioned Domitian in the following words: 'Domitian also, who possessed a share of Nero's cruelty, attempted once to do the same thing that the latter did. But because he had, I suppose, some intelligence, he very soon ceased, and even recalled those whom he had banished.' But after Domitian had reigned fifteen years, and Nerva had succeeded to the empire, the Roman Senate, according to the writers that record the history of those days, voted that Domitian's horrors should be cancelled, and that those who had been unjustly banished should return to their homes and have their property restored to them. It was at this time that the apostle John returned from his banishment in the island and took up his abode at Ephesus, according to an ancient Christian tradition."
preterists are grown adults. But if you desire to be seen as a child, I can oblige your wishes.
Slamdunk Biker......!
"That John lived until after the reign of Domitian is also shown by Irenaeus' repeated references to his own mentor, Polycarp, being John's disciple.[8] Polycarp was born in AD65, and died in AD155. He was five years old when Jerusalem was destroyed. He was two years old when Nero died. His being tutored by John therefore must have been at least a decade after the destruction of Jerusalem, and more likely two or three decades afterward."
I take it you have not been to modern Israel except maybe on a guided "holy land" tour.
The Pharisees believed this is what the Messiah would do as well.
The venom now is actually doing them a favor for it is severe judgment later.
Jesus was actually doing the Pharisees a mercy when He was laying into them as well.
Explain all you want, there is not such thing as 70 AD being a type, modern Israel is nothing more than a political solution under the Balfour Declaration.
The only return to the land was under the old covenant promises of repentance and obedience to the law which have long since expired.
There has never been repentance by the Zionists.
(Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.)
(Acts 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.)
I guess you have no ability to comprehend what you read whatsoever. Those verses are telling you that the Jews were NEVER God's chosen people. Get it? Not all of Israel (Blood Jews) is of Israel (God's Elect - Spiritual Jews).
I can tell you have no clue what you're talking about when you bring up replacement theology. Nobody has ever replaced anybody. God's elect are the same today as they were in Abraham's day. Here you are again on the wrong side of God and supporting the enemies of the gospel, the people that God never chose, the same people that hate God and killed Jesus. And you practically worship them. You're border line insane in my opinion.
Absolutely. Pharisees never went away, they're still here today, believing the same lies.