I shared the historic Church position from the Geneva Bible, what more can I say? Read it again?
Prophecy, it’s not what most think.
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Day of the lord is the last day .they were still experiencing the great tribulation.one like never before or ever again . a great joy to the nation a time of sufering for those who thought their corrupted flesh could prophet for some
Revelation 1:9-11 King James Version (KJV) I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, (last day) and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
One thing I have noticed is many seem to miss the blessing that God has revealed a way to reveal to His bride the mysteries hid in parables. Hid from those who have no faith .
Not only has he inspired His word but also signified it. Many simply literalize the signified tongue of God and lose out on the encouraging living hope of the gospel
Revelation 1 King James Version (KJV) 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Why are you on this forum? Is it not to share you views which you believe are correct? And here I am practically begging you to share your views with me and you either refuse, or you opt to give me a curt response.
I have never heard about this Geneva Bible before or the views which surround it. I would like to learn about it, test it and decide for myself (of course with the Holy SPirit Guiding me because that is most essential) . So please provide any links or phrases in which for me to google about Geneva Bible and where its supporters stand on 4th beast of Daniel, 1st and 2nd beasts of Reveleation.
All the arguments being made are readable, BUT............. I just wanna know one thing?
The population of the US is about 326.7 million people, the worlds population is about 7.8 billion people, SO, exactly what percent of these did the Author of the OP interview to determine that
"prophecy is not what MOST PEOPLE think........"
huh?
The population of the US is about 326.7 million people, the worlds population is about 7.8 billion people, SO, exactly what percent of these did the Author of the OP interview to determine that
"prophecy is not what MOST PEOPLE think........"
huh?
Question: "What is the Geneva Bible?"
Answer: The Geneva Bible is an early English translation of the Bible. Its name comes from the fact it was first published in Geneva in 1560. The work of Protestant exiles from England and Scotland, the Geneva Bible is well respected and was an important Bible in Scotland and England before and even after the King James Version was published in 1611. For some forty years after the King James Version was published, the Geneva Bible remained the most popular English translation of the Bible.
In 1553 Mary Tudor became Queen of England. As Queen she was committed to eliminating Protestant influences in England and restoring Roman Catholicism as the official religion. Under her rule there was a time of intense persecution of Protestants known as the Marian Persecutions, which earned her the nickname “Bloody Mary.” She had over 300 Protestant believers burned at the stake, and many others fled to other countries rather than face certain death for not supporting Roman Catholicism.
During this time period, several key English Protestant leaders fled to Geneva, Switzerland, to avoid the persecution in England. Among them were Miles Coverdale, John Foxe, Thomas Sampson, and William Whittingham. With the support of John Calvin and the Scottish Reformer John Knox, these English Reformers decided to publish an English Bible that was not dependent upon the approval of English royalty. Building upon earlier English translations such as those done by William Tyndale and Myles Coverdale, the Geneva Bible was the first English translation in which all of the Old Testament was translated directly from Hebrew manuscripts. Much of the translation work was done by William Whittingham, the brother-in-law of John Calvin.
In 1557 they published an English New Testament. A few years later, in 1560, the first edition of the Geneva Bible was published in Geneva, Switzerland, containing both the New and Old Testaments along with significant translation notes. This new English Bible was dedicated to Queen Elizabeth I, who had been crowned Queen of England in 1558 after the death of Queen Mary I. Under Queen Elizabeth, the persecution of Protestants stopped, and she began leading England back toward Protestantism. This led to later editions of the Geneva Bible being published in England beginning in 1576. In all, over 150 editions were published, with the 1644 version being the last.
Pre-dating the King James Version by 51 years, the Geneva Bible was one of the earliest mass-produced English Bibles commonly available to the public. It was the primary English Bible used by 16th-century English Protestant Reformers and was the Bible used by such people as William Shakespeare, John Milton, John Knox, and John Bunyan.
Often considered one of the earliest examples of a study Bible, the Geneva Bible contained detailed notes, verse citations that allowed cross-referencing of passages, and also study aids such as book introductions, maps, and woodcut illustrations. It was printed in at least three different sizes and was reasonably affordable, costing less than a week’s wages even for the lowest paid workers.
The annotations or notes in the Geneva Bible were distinctly Calvinist and Puritan in character, which made the translation unpopular with some of the pro-government Church of England leaders as well as King James I. This led King James I to commission the new translation that would become known as the Authorized Version or the King James Bible. Surprisingly, though, some of the Geneva notes were found in a few editions of the King James Bible up to the 1715 version. The Geneva Bible was also seen as a threat to Roman Catholicism, as some of its notes, written by Protestant Reformers during a time of intense persecution by the Roman Catholic Church, are distinctly anti-Roman Catholic.
Eventually, the King James Version would replace the Geneva Bible as the most popular English translation. The Geneva Bible is a very important English translation and was the primary Bible used by many early settlers in America. In recent years it has gained popularity again, both because it is an excellent translation and because of its well-written study notes.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Geneva-Bible.html
have no info on this issue ...Nebuchadnezzer said:
Sorry, I was suggesting that he be careful how we hear. Many simply literalize the parables destroying the signified tongue of God. All the beasts represent the one father of lies .The god of this world. His name is called legion for a reason . Wherever ,whatever the lie his shoe fits as the man of sin
We don't know God through the kingdoms of this word as if we did know him by walking by sight. As new creatures we are commanded to know man after the flesh or nations after the flesh . Literal Jerusalem had served it purpose until the reformation came the veil is still was rent.
All the same "Future" human man.
Daniels "Little Horn"
Paul's "Man of Sin"
John's "The Beast"
Great example in Mathew 16.
legion or Satan the "man of sin" the "father of lies" or "spirit of error" (having no body) worked his lies in Peter to try and make the word of God's prophecy without effect. Satan through Peter being used as the man of sin this time. . forbid Jesus from performing the gospel demonstration.
said This shall not be unto you !....I forbid 
Using Peter who was forgiven of his blasphemy as one of the many anti-christs. Many men of sin called anti christ's influenced by the father of lies where there when 1 John was written
Your "Symbolic Allegories" with pretty little emogies don't make the grade.Great example in Mathew 16.
legion or Satan the "man of sin" the "father of lies" or "spirit of error" (having no body) worked his lies in Peter to try and make the word of God's prophecy without effect. Satan through Peter being used as the man of sin this time. . forbid Jesus from performing the gospel demonstration.
Using Peter who was forgiven of his blasphemy as one of the many anti-christs. Many men of sin called anti christ's influenced by the father of lies where there when 1 John was written
The future human man that will fulfill this character isn't "Symbolic Allegories", but will be a future, literal, male, & human.
Thanks sorry . They can be ugly.
I think the man of sin is hiding in plain sight.
The man of sin "legion" is mankind under the influence of the father of lies. . The spirit of error having no form no DNA . He used DNA in the garden . Its legs were cut off so it cannot walk to show faithlessness. In that way walking is a metaphor that defines "understanding" His was cut off. .
We walk by faith. Not as did Adam and Eve when the glory of the father departed. Out of sight out of mind. They could plainly see when the glory departed they were naked. God became out of sight out of mind. . dead in their trespass and sin .
1 John informs us there was a legion of anti-christs' there already.
The Holy Spirit gives us a good example using Peter as a 'scapegoat'. Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the Son of Man , Jesus . That window closed when the Son of man disappeared.
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Mathew 16: 22_23
Satan the man or vehicle of sin, previously the serpent of sin.
The serpent has no ability to walk as the god of this world.
A good lesson on how to hear God as the things of God, and distinguish them from the things of a legion of men.
In that way the "Get thee behind me" is understood by the things of God not seen . . . not Peter seen.
OK, I looked up Geneva Bible. It is very similar to the King James Bible.
What does this have to do with interpreting who or what the 4th beast of Daniel 7 is ?
I propose the 4th beast in Daniel 7 is the Roman Republic.
The 10 horns are the Tribune of the Plebs,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribune_of_the_plebs
The three horns which are uprooted by the little horn are the first triumivrate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Triumvirate
Although Caesar was murdered in 44BC this action gave rise to the second triumvirate in 43 BC, and gave forth to a repeat of the little horn uprooting three horns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Triumvirate
Therefore the little horn is the rise of the Roman Emperor.
Julius Caesar was the first Roman Emperor and he changed the Laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_reforms_of_Julius_Caesar
Juilus Caesar was the first Roman Emperor and he changed the Times https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar
All fits like a hand to a glove.
Care to add anything?
I quoted their notes so you can see how they answered the question. They were usually right. Today the answers are usually wrong.
The gospel is not in respect to the political nations of this world or their temporal locations (north, south, east, and west) Four represents universal north, south, east, and west , same with the word ten all the pagan kingdoms of the the world Ten like the word hundred and thousand is used to represent a unknow. We are not of the number. But those who walk by faith .The golden measure hidden from sight
Genesis 13:14And the Lord said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:
Four = Universal
Genesis 28:14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
There are two copies. The full version is with the 1599 Geneva Bible. I always check the notes before committing myself to a position.
Oh the notes are right there in the bible?
Is this a good source?
https://www.reformedreader.org/gbn/en.htm
From that article;
All the marginal commentaries were finished by 1599, making the 1599 edition of the Geneva Bible the most complete study aide for Biblical scholars and students. This edition does not contain the Apocrypha. The Apocrypha’s notes are minimal or absent in other editions. Additional highlights of this edition include maps of the Exodus route and Joshua’s distribution of land, a name and subject index, and Psalms sung by the English congregation in Geneva.
The greatest distinction of the Geneva Bible, however, is the extensive collection of marginal notes that it contains. Prominent Reformation leaders such as John Calvin, John Knox, Miles Coverdale, William Whittingham, Theodore Beza, and Anthony Gilby wrote the majority of these notes in order to explain and interpret the scriptures. The notes comprise nearly 300,000 words, or nearly one-third the length of the Bible itself, and they are justifiably considered the most complete source of Protestant religious thought available.