Catholicism vs Protestantism
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Seems like there would be some overlap.
Is Paul talking about worship here?
Romans 10: 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
As I said,
Sometimes the Bible presents God as the judge on the last day, sometimes Jesus.
The verse you presented speaks of Jesus judging.
Can you find any verses in the Bible that talk about God judging?
That mean you believe Jesus is Mankind's judge oN the last day.
Do you believe muslim adore Jesus as God?
Yep Jesus and the Father are one
But Jesus can't be one to every body, only who believe in Him.
Jesus can't be one with Lucifer.
Jesus is God.
God jesus
God judging mean God Jesus judging
Do you believe God Jesus is Mankind's judge oN the last day?
Yes
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
Because Jesus and Father are one so ccc 841 mean
Muslim A knowledge Creator mean a knoledge Jesus as God
Muslim adore God Jesus
The reality is, muslim do not believe Jesus as God
So catholic is lie
No, Muslims do not adore Jesus as God.
Suppose you then say that Muslims therefore do not adore mankind's judge on the last day.
The logical fallacy I believe you would be committing is equating Jesus with all of who God is.
Does the bible say that only Jesus is mankind's judge on the last day?
I'm interested in seeing how you addressed the idea that the father is greater than Jesus.
I'm starting to suspect that at heart you are some flavor of Unitarian. And of course that would explain why you are unable to grasp what CCC 841 is saying, since it was written by trinitarians.
I believe the answer to your question is found in this verse
Romans 2: 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men, according to my Good News, by Jesus Christ.
God will judge by Jesus.
Let's talk about the relationship between Jesus, the spirit, and the father.
Psalm 110: 1 <A Psalm. Of David.> The Lord said to my lord, Be seated at my right hand, till I put all those who are against you under your feet.
Who is talking here? Who are they talking to?
Jackson my brother, you changed the question!
I'm sure you know that clicking on a person's name when it's at the top of a quote box takes you to the post that is being quoted.
So here's how the series of exchanges happened:
So to answer your question directly, adore and worship overlap in some ways, but not others. They are similar, but not the same.
So, did you want to respond to either of these posts?
Can you show me a verse that say there Will be 2 or 3 Mankind's judge oN the last day?
Let's talk about God being a trinity or a unity.
Are these three statements true?
A. Jesus=God
B. The father=God
C. Anytime we see "God" in a statement we can replace it with "Jesus".
If those three statements are all true, then we have
D. The father=Jesus
Is this verse true?
John 14: 28 You heard how I told you, 'I go away, and I come to you.' If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I said 'I am going to my Father;' for the Father is greater than I.
If so, then we have
E. The father > Jesus
But now
D. The father=Jesus
E. The father > Jesus
And both of those cannot be true.
Are these three statements true?
A. Jesus=God
B. The father=God
C. Anytime we see "God" in a statement we can replace it with "Jesus".
If those three statements are all true, then we have
D. The father=Jesus
Is this verse true?
John 14: 28 You heard how I told you, 'I go away, and I come to you.' If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I said 'I am going to my Father;' for the Father is greater than I.
If so, then we have
E. The father > Jesus
But now
D. The father=Jesus
E. The father > Jesus
And both of those cannot be true.
I pospone Some response because I believe It Will automatically answere in the next discussion
Jesus and the Father are 1.
So you can't worship the father and reject Jesus.
Back to who judge Mankind's oN the last day?
Is Jesus or the father?
I believe united state, has 3 element of power
Legislative, Yudiciary and executive
President as an executuve not judge, am I right?
John 14:6
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
I don't believe one say I worship God but reject God Jesus
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
I don't believe one say I worship God but reject God Jesus
No, Jews as a group do not have a zeal for Jesus.
Romans 10: 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
Is this verse translated incorrectly then, in your opinion?
Is the translator saying that Jews have a zeal for Jesus?