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Once a son always a son....,
7x70.....,
99 and 1,
John 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish; no one will snatch them from my hand.
John 10:29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one can snatch them from my Father’s hand.

So many examples of the Agapao of God

Again, The Lord would not set a standard for men, that He wouldnt keep Himself...

We miss the mark all the time.... if we want to confess it or not....(But who are we fooling?)

Thank God for:
1John 1:9 But if we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous, forgiving us our sins and cleansing us from all unrighteousness.

So when we do error, miiss the mark, sin....
He absolutely cannot grasp that a son by birth will always be a son by birth.....both he and the other salvation losing Jesus devaluers absolutely apply humanistic blind logic to the word of God while rejecting the obvious truths, context, word definitions, Greek verb tense and SPIRITUAL COMMON SENSE......the rocks in my driveway have more sense and understanding than they do!
 
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EleventhHour

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You my sister are being persecuted I see for the Namesake off our LORD and Savior...
This laughing post is nothing more than mocking you , and God has a lot to say about mockers...

First you are told you are not saved amongst other things before that statement , and now being laughed at , Jesus said this would happen , count your blessings sister , you are under His protection...
...xox...
Thank you! :)
 
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The focus is on being able to live in sin and it doesn't matter in Freegrace, because that's how grace is understood in that doctrine.

In the doctrine I defend the focus is on righteous living because in that doctrine it is understood that's what grace was given for. The mind is set on the things of the Spirit in accordance with Romans 8 in that doctrine.
Listen pal....you do not defend the truth.....nor do you know or have the truth......the following is the truth....

Jesus is true -->HE BEGINS, FINISHES AND COMPLETES the work of FAITH IN ALL that believe BIBLICALLY and HE LOSES NOTHING, will not FORSAKE or LEAVE a genuine believer EVEN if they sin, fail, lack faith

YOU ARE A DECEIVER that peddles a LOSABLE FAITH that YOU MUST MAINTAIN AND FINISH and your FALSE god will cast you away like a piece of trash because YOU FAILED.....

See the above factual truth about JESUS FINISHING AND COMPLETING FAITH IN US and quit spreading your heretical view that devalus Jesus and makes him into an inept liar!!
 
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Fyi... a false gospel is no laughing matter.



Poor me.
If you don't like what someone has to say....move on .
Instead you have yourself mocked,scoffed and laughed at others!

There will come a time of seperating BY GODS CALL!



Nothing personal bah!
 
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Perhaps your time would be better spent coming to an understanding why @Judges1318 and other proponents of a "losable salvation"
are wrong.

So far I have not seen any attempt by you to support/make a case for your (false) beliefs.
Their laughter will be turned to weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth while begging for mercy that will never be given......One either actually trusts Jesus by faith or they sell him out like the workers for, salvation losers and self faith maintainers do every minute of the day!
 

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You my sister are being persecuted I see for the Namesake off our LORD and Savior...
This laughing post is nothing more than mocking you , and God has a lot to say about mockers...

First you are told you are not saved amongst other things before that statement , and now being laughed at , Jesus said this would happen , count your blessings sister , you are under His protection...
...xox...
@G2RBeliever , you should be sad...
Your thought to ridicule my sister in Christ , turned your heart to wickedness...
When that thought took hold in your heart , you went out your way to find that mocking picture , and then you proceeded to post it , yes your thoughts became your actions , and your conscience was not pricked...
 
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EleventhHour

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Poor me.
If you don't like what someone has to say....move on .
Instead you have yourself mocked,scoffed and laughed at others!

There will come a time of seperating BY GODS CALL!

Nothing personal bah!
Well people who preach salvation can be lost make laughable, ridiculous statements... what can I say.

Ultimately if I gave a laughing emoji it was probably wrong you are right... I should have given a RED X ...nothing funny about devaluing Jesus... quite horrendous actually.
 
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G2RBeliever

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@G2RBeliever , you should be sad...
Your thought to ridicule my sister in Christ , turned your heart to wickedness...
When that thought took hold in your heart , you went out your way to find that mocking picture , and then you proceeded to post it , yes your thoughts became your actions , and your conscience was not pricked...




You MiSREAD my emoji,
No worries,it's gone.
 
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You self faith/salvation losing maintainers can red x, thumbs down all you want.....does not change the fact that you all espouse false dogma/gospels that have no power to save and you will stand before Jesus, beg and say....Lord, Lord have we not done.....make no mistake about it...your time is coming and your destiny sealed by your acceptance of and promotion of man made dogma with NO POWER BEFORE GOD to save your hide!
 
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EleventhHour

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Poor me.
If you don't like what someone has to say....move on .
Instead you have yourself mocked,scoffed and laughed at others!

There will come a time of seperating BY GODS CALL!



Nothing personal bah!
Why would I move on... let their false gospel stand uncontested that is not biblical.. we are called to defend the Gospel.
 
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Why would I move on... let their false gospel stand uncontested that is not biblical.. we are called to defend the Gospel.
I will fire on and swing the sword until hell freezes over and the proverbial gates welded shut....their dogmas take people straight to the pit and I will not sit idly by without contesting them!
 
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G2RBeliever

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We ALL answer to God!
It is Jesus blood that is our initial cleansing,then obeying the Word of God continues that cleansing!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I wouldn't dare espouse MY beliefs except to say I stand on,in the word of God
My beliefs are in the 66 books of the Bible,do you need a better roadmap?
ah come on!. Everyone says this, are they all right?
 
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Why would I move on... let their false gospel stand uncontested that is not biblical.. we are called to defend the Gospel.
Case in point...a salvation loser and self salvation maintainer red x'ed my post....she will find out....probably Fran back.....!!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Poor me.
If you don't like what someone has to say....move on .
Instead you have yourself mocked,scoffed and laughed at others!

There will come a time of seperating BY GODS CALL!



Nothing personal bah!
whats the old saying two wrongs do not make a right

If you think she has done this, You doing it back at here just makes you look bad.
 
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We ALL answer to God!
It is Jesus blood that is our initial cleansing,then obeying the Word of God continues that cleansing!
False, wrong, incorrect, nope, and reeks of ignorance.......you should quit peddling your false preacher's view and pick the bible up and start reading......serious....BLOOD is what clenses us from ALL SIN and JESUS MEDIATES FOR US ETERNALLY.....wow....such basic truth and you cannot even get that right!
 
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G2RBeliever

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Who is Fran....
And WHO are you as far as that goes a vapour,a speck in time, not enough that I let what you say nor think OUTWEIGH God!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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We ALL answer to God!
It is Jesus blood that is our initial cleansing,then obeying the Word of God continues that cleansing!
Wrong

Paul warned you about begining in the spirit and trying to perfect it in the flesh

I will not use the word Paul used. But you should heed what he said. Because the word he used fits.
 
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EleventhHour

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Case in point...a salvation loser and self salvation maintainer red x'ed my post....she will find out....probably Fran back.....!!
Had not thought of it... I wouldn't be surprised. Seems to like to target certain people.