God is unconditional Love (Grace). Free will = conditional love.Bible verse?
God is unconditional Love (Grace). Free will = conditional love.Bible verse?
His love is unconditional, but eternal life in His presence is conditional.God is unconditional Love (Grace). Free will = conditional love.
Not quite accurate. Unconditional grace is universalism. Limited atonement or predestination under Calvin theology is conditional. You have to be of the elect.God is unconditional Love (Grace). Free will = conditional love.
= God's love is inferior, not unconditional.His love is unconditional, but eternal life in His presence is conditional.
Unconditional love for the elect only.Not quite accurate. Unconditional grace is universalism. Limited atonement or predestination under Calvin theology is conditional. You have to be of the elect.
My Bible has the invitation for all who would believe.
The road to destruction is wide. Your theology says God chose the majority of mankind to go to hell. CHOSE.Unconditional love for the elect only.
You forget God is also all just.= God's love is inferior, not unconditional.
If so, he owes the salvation of all if Christ died for all.You forget God is also all just.
Remember, God is Just.The road to destruction is wide. Your theology says God chose the majority of mankind to go to hell. CHOSE.
Not love.
All who would believe. God will not force you to love Him. But God provided the way for all who would respond. This is elementary Christianity.If so, he owes the salvation of all if Christ died for all.
As to why out of love God as incarnation sacrificed himself to appease being all just. But scripture says Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father. This involves faith and belief in Jesus's atoning work.Remember, God is Just.
This makes wicked people their own savior. It won't work.All who would believe. God will not force you to love Him. But God provided the way for all who would respond. This is elementary Christianity.
Which comes from God, not from us.As to why out of love God as incarnation sacrificed himself to appease being all just. But scripture says Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father. This involves faith and belief in Jesus's atoning work.
Scripture has 3 words. Faith (pistis) faith (pisteuo) and believe (pisteuo)Which comes from God, not from us.
I guess our vantage points are different. God placed conditions beginning with Adam & Eve for humans, and apparently with the Angels prior to that. Accountability and Justice are aspects of real love, not some maudlin human concept. Before you say I’m discounting grace, understand that the only ones who get what they deserve, are those that reject God’s unmerited grace and prefer to remain enemies.= God's love is inferior, not unconditional.
No it doesn't. We put our hope in the only source of our salvation.This makes wicked people their own savior. It won't work.
= wicked people are their own saviors. = They are even more wicked because they rob God of his glory in salvation and credit themselves.No it doesn't. We put our hope in the only source of our salvation.
Grace = we don't deserve God's love.I guess our vantage points are different. God placed conditions beginning with Adam & Eve for humans, and apparently with the Angels prior to that. Accountability and Justice are aspects of real love, not some maudlin human concept. Before you say I’m discounting grace, understand that the only ones who get what they deserve, are those that reject God’s unmerited grace and prefer to remain enemies.
Faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit = God must save a person before they can believe.Scripture has 3 words. Faith (pistis) faith (pisteuo) and believe (pisteuo)
PISTEUO:
Hebrews 11:6 New International Version (NIV)
6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
4100 pisteúō (from 4102 /pístis, "faith," derived from 3982 /peíthō, "persuade, be persuaded") – believe (affirm, have confidence); used of persuading oneself (= human believing) and with the sacred significance of being persuaded by the Lord (= faith-believing). Only the context indicates whether 4100 /pisteúō ("believe") is self-serving (without sacred meaning), or the believing that leads to/proceeds from God's inbirthing of faith.
PISTIS:
Ephesians 2:8 New International Version (NIV)
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—
(4102/pistis) is always a gift from God, and never something that can be produced by people. In short, 4102/pistis ("faith") for the believer is "God's divine persuasion" – and therefore distinct from human belief (confidence), yet involving it. The Lord continuously births faith in the yielded believer so they can know what He prefers, i.e. the persuasion of His will (1 Jn 5:4).
Wicked people as in free will believers? Good luck with that. No free will theological believer thinks of themselves as a Savior. This is your opinion.= wicked people are their own saviors. = They are even more wicked because they rob God of his glory in salvation and credit themselves.