IT'S 1948! IT'S A MIRACLE!

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Journeyman

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Yes but I'm talking about favoring Israel kind of love .. Doesn't the devil favor everyone else but
The devil favors unbelievers regardless of race.
 

Journeyman

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I am not hindering the gospel either, it’s not a gospel issue o jew will be saved apart from faith,

and make one more accusation like that Bearing false witness, God as my witness

if your not going to sit and understand what people believe, then don’t Say a word

your arrogance in doing so is your downfall!
I understand how you misinterpret scripture. It's a disservice to the Jewish people.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I understand how you misinterpret scripture. It's a disservice to the Jewish people.
When you have some firm foundation and want to actually discuss scripture, come talk to me

until then all you have is silly false accusations, and nothing of value.

good day sir
 

Journeyman

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When you have some firm foundation and want to actually discuss scripture, come talk to me
My foundation is Jesus. The foundation is laid now, not after he returns. Anyone who tells you Jesus gather Israel and begin teaching the nations about God is fatally mistaken, because he's doing that now.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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My foundation is Jesus. The foundation is laid now, not after he returns. Anyone who tells you Jesus gather Israel and begin teaching the nations about God is fatally mistaken, because he's doing that now.
My foundation is Jesus and what he did 2000 years ago
again you have no foundation to argue with me. When you want to really discuss let me know
mother wise you continue to make yourself look bad and continue to sin by bearing false witness.
god is my witness
good day sir
 

Journeyman

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My foundation is Jesus and what he did 2000 years ago
And that's what everyone's (both Jews and gentiles) foundation needs to be now. As previously stated, after Jesus returns, it's too late to lay the foundation.
 
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And that's what everyone's (both Jews and gentiles) foundation needs to be now. As previously stated, after Jesus returns, it's too late to lay the foundation.
no one said otherwise

this is not about that, never has been

thats why you will never understand what we believe because your whole basis of understanding of us is based on a lie!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You're saying it by your misinterpretation of Isaa.11.
Wrong
I suggest you stop bearing witness against people. It destroys your testimony. And it will never win one person to your side
pS I have no clue how you interpret is 11. But a lot of it has not happened yet. If you think it has you need to get outside more
 

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Because He is faithful even when we are not; because He keeps His covenant. Because He is God and He can do whatever He wants, and He chose to use the literal nation and land of Israel for His purposes and He has not finished with them, scripture explains His plan.
He chose for the Saviour of the world to be Jewish, from Israel; this is not something we can just overlook and ignore. In 1948 prophecy was fulfilled; His plan is not finished; the land of Israel is God's time-piece, as we see what is happening regarding Israel, we know that much Bible prophecy is being fulfilled and the time is getting much shorter.
Correct. Its a bit complicated, but absolutely yes prophecy WAS fulfilled May 14, 1948 and also June 7, 1967!

www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/BibleStudies/HIStoryOurFuture/Ezekiels430Days.html
 

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cv5

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In 70ad the scattering of the Jews took place. Just as prophecy declared.
In 1948 the regathering of Israel started just as prophecy declared.

We are grafted into the vine we are not bloodlined. By faith Abraham pleased God. We walk by faith.
In no way shape or form has God abandoned Israel. As God promised Israel shall be redeemed.
Israel is a burden to all nation's just as prophecy has declared. The nation's shall rise up against Israel just as prophecy declares. But God himself shall defend Israel. And one day they shall look upon him that was peirced.
I will bless those that bless you and curse those that curse you saith the Lord.

70 ad is just a example of what's to come. It is not the beginning of the great tribulation for Jesus said in that day it shall be like never before. The greatest of all sorrows and hurt and famine the world has ever seen. Unpresidented.
There is no history after the great tribulation that we can sit back and say wow what a dark day that is because Jesus will have come back to set up his kingdom.
The question asked is "what will be the sign of your coming. Not what will be the signs that say your coming.
Jesus said this generation shall not pass till all is fulfilled. What generation you ask? The generation that started in 1948 the regathering of Israel.
This theology this lie that 70 ad was the starting of the tribulation has infected the minds and teaching of many good brothers and sisters. Jesus declared the fall of the temple that not one stone shall be left upon another. Don't you think he would of said and when you see this the son of man will be back.
He pointed at this time in history to give the example of how devastating the coming tribulation will be.
The tribulation its self effects the whole world....global....everyone.....every nation....not just a part of it.
I think you are close. IMO 1948 (and 1967) is the "pre-gathering", setting the stage for Daniels 70th week. The reathering per se really occurs post Second Coming in great joy and fanfare.
BTW, the true location of the Temple is undoubtedly located within the City of David on Israeli territory....NOT the Antonia fortress platform where the Islamic compound lies! So we are very close to the 70th week.


www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/BibleStudies/HIStoryOurFuture/Ezekiels430Days.html
 

cv5

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Does anyone today give much thought to the miracle that happened in 1948? Not really, because few of us remember 1948, much less what happened then. In 1948 our Heavenly Father kept His promise, given throughout the Holy Bible, and the country of Israel became a unified nation again. It was a miracle. A miracle? Why would that be considered a miracle? Well, first of all, the odds against that happening were remote, one could say almost impossible, just a few years earlier.

Before World War 11 the Jewish people were scattered around the world with small or giant populations depending upon the country you were in. The main population was in Europe however, just where our Heavenly Father had scattered them roughly 2,500 years earlier. The tribes of Judah and Benjamin (there were 12 tribes) were still in the Holy Land but the 10 northern tribes were pretty much everywhere. There was no real appetite, prior to Hitler seizing power, for them to leave the European nation they were situated in.

That all changed leading up to and during World War 11, but not many were truly aware of the plight the Jewish people were in, and those who were could do little about it. The Holocaust was in full swing, but the true cost to the Jewish people was only realized after the war ended. The late 1940's was possibly the only time in history when the Jewish people were looked upon sympathetically by the rest of the world. And was the remnant of Jews now ready to leave their European nation? Oh yeah, more than ready. All of Europe was in shreds.

Jewish people from all over the world and the European remnant that was left began migrating back to Jerusalem and Israel. Were they greeted with open arms? Of course not, but the British, who controlled Palestine, were tired of war and bankrupt. It was difficult for them to put up a convincing argument of why the Jews should not be allowed back to their ancient homeland.

The Arab nations, who had backed Hitler, were impoverished. They tried to mount a sustained war against Israel, but they fell short. The time was ripe for a miracle. On May 15, 1948 the Jewish people proclaimed, "We're back!" Throughout the late 40's and into the 50's & 60's the synagogues and churches were going crazy praising our Lord and our Father for this miracle. Today, not so much. People today look at Israel and many assume it has always been there, and that's that.

So, was it a miracle? Actually, it was Bible prophecy taking center stage, as the scattering and gathering of the Jewish children is one of the most prolific prophecies throughout the Old and New Testaments. I could give you dozens of scriptures for examples, but I dislike long posts, and this one is long enough. I do want to point out however, the scattering and gathering of the Jewish people over the millenniums completed the parable of the fig tree which our Beloved told us to learn. Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21.
Had to repost this link. Here are the PRECISE details of fulfilled prophecy to the very day of fulfillment!

www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/BibleStudies/HIStoryOurFuture/Ezekiels430Days.html
 

Butterflyyy

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I think you are close. IMO 1948 (and 1967) is the "pre-gathering", setting the stage for Daniels 70th week. The reathering per se really occurs post Second Coming in great joy and fanfare.
BTW, the true location of the Temple is undoubtedly located within the City of David on Israeli territory....NOT the Antonia fortress platform where the Islamic compound lies! So we are very close to the 70th week.


www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/BibleStudies/HIStoryOurFuture/Ezekiels430Days.html
Wow that was fascinating lol... thank you very much👌
 

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What happen in 1948 was fulfilment of biblical prophesy. It was this single event that started the end-times clock to begin ticking.
 

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The Church is Israel in scripture. The promises are yes in Jesus. So secular Israel as no claim to Palestine. People who walk by faith will go by what Scripture says in Romans 11. That only through Christ will any be attached to biblical Israel = Christ and the Church.
No, Dave, that's not how it's going down.
 
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No, Dave, that's not how it's going down.
What happened when Christ abolished circumcision on the Cross? Physical Jews became gentiles who are called Jews solely because they practice Talmudic Judaism. They exist only because they reject Christ. The Biblical Jews received him.